ROSSI to leave MOTO GP after 2012

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If you look at MotoGP and ROSSI, specifically, he's created the biggest BRAND in the world ... he's brought so much to the motorcycle racing sport as a whole, that is undeniable. He's won tons of championships and races. He could be even argued as one of the best on two wheels racing EVER. But, I think because he has created such a strong brand that you have racers bidding for more attention in their own home grandprix because Rossi is getting all of it (the attention). But its just good for the sport and all of us who love it. BUT, I still say there are too many Rossi protectors out there. Stay off his d_ck, if he sucks on the Ducati, then he just sucks. If Stoner was better than him on the BEAST, then say it, dont be such a Rossi d_ick-ryder that you make excuses for him. They've created an entire new bike for the guy and look Hayden is still in front of him .. now what.
 
If you look at MotoGP and ROSSI, specifically, he's created the biggest BRAND in the world ... he's brought so much to the motorcycle racing sport as a whole, that is undeniable. He's won tons of championships and races. He could be even argued as one of the best on two wheels racing EVER. But, I think because he has created such a strong brand that you have racers bidding for more attention in their own home grandprix because Rossi is getting all of it (the attention). But its just good for the sport and all of us who love it. BUT, I still say there are too many Rossi protectors out there. Stay off his d_ck, if he sucks on the Ducati, then he just sucks. If Stoner was better than him on the BEAST, then say it, dont be such a Rossi d_ick-ryder that you make excuses for him. They've created an entire new bike for the guy and look Hayden is still in front of him .. now what.

Lets be honest, all the guys in moto gp are awesome, but as above Rossi has brought that much to moto gp than most of the rest of the riders.
Stoner one only one championship on the Ducati and lets grace it, that season the thing was a rocket ship, but he rode it very well.
The thing that gets me with Stoner is he's fast with an unbelievable control over the both brands of bikes he has ridden but when have you really seen any real exciting racing from him, and i don't mean winning from the front buit actually having a real dog fight with another rider, i can only think of one and that was Laguna Seca with Rossi.....Rossi has had countless races and exciting dog fights with several different riders throughout his career when the racing was much closer.
We all watch it for the same reason and i am a big Rossi fan but I'm now hoping Lorenzo does something this year as i feel he has matured as a rider and he comes across a lot better.....Stoner is just a cry baby and i feel quite sorry for his wife just now as not only will there be one cry baby in the house but two!!!
If Rossi's day is done in moto gp and he choses to retire, it will be a sad day and i think it will lose a big following......the only other rider who may have brought some excitement back to moto gp unfortunately lost his life last year.......R.I.P Marco.
 
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Lets be honest, all the guys in moto gp are awesome, but as above Rossi has brought that much to moto gp than most of the rest of the riders.
Stoner one only one championship on the Ducati and lets grace it, that season the thing was a rocket ship, but he rode it very well.
The thing that gets me with Stoner is he's fast with an unbelievable control over the both brands of bikes he has ridden but when have you really seen any real exciting racing from him, and i don't mean winning from the front buit actually having a real dog fight with another rider, i can only think of one and that was Laguna Seca with Rossi.....Rossi has had countless races and exciting dog fights with several different riders throughout his career when the racing was much closer.
We all watch it for the same reason and i am a big Rossi fan but I'm now hoping Lorenzo does something this year as i feel he has matured as a rider and he comes across a lot better.....Stoner is just a cry baby and i feel quite sorry for his wife just now as not only will there be one cry baby in the house but two!!!
If Rossi's day is done in moto gp and he choses to retire, it will be a sad day and i think it will lose a big following......the only other rider who may have brought some excitement back to moto gp unfortunately lost his life last year.......R.I.P Marco.

Couldn't agree more, was a big loss to MotoGP in Sepang last year. Will be interesting to see how Stoner's arm pump issue goes in the next few races. He is a talented rider, but it would be nice for him to acknowledge that the best rider won on the day rather than have an excuse every time he doesn't win.

On another note, it will be interesting to see how Rossi's little brother (Luca Marini) goes in the future.
 
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If it was a hard fought battle and lost, I'm sure he would have.
He certainly has in the past.

I think he's going to be in for a blinder this season!
With arm pump and a less than perfect bike, he was still smiling. Like.
 
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Theres a couple of utube clips off moto gp that are quite telling ... 2011 in slow motion shows how much difficulty Rossi is having cp him and lorenzo almost identical shots.. another one is ride with the master on a lap at sepang... a lap with stoner at sepang check out the braking after the long straight.... and the apexs arent to bad either..
 
I'm not against Rossi he has vastly more experince than Stoner and its hard to see him battling.. who knows what it is.. but career wise there is none to match him latley.. maybe its just what happens with time.
 
all you rossi worshippers, i think you are a little bit bumb in the head.
all you can say about Stoner is : moan,moan moan....
but guess what? who is the moaner now? since 2011 on every f_cking GP rossi moans...and moans...and moans...it makes me sick.
and they f_cking built a new bike for this guy.
Stoner beat him with the Ducati, Lorenzo beat him with the same bike as his...i think he should retire and maybe go fishing or play chess.
i think he put a lot of pressure on himself with his statements that "he can win on any bike", and the f_cking wizard jb said he can fix the Ducati in 80 sec.
so all you rossi a_lickers just go on and moan, moan, moan, and find excuses....or even better, let rossi do the moaning for 2012...he still got 17 rounds.
 
Lets be honest, all the guys in moto gp are awesome, but as above Rossi has brought that much to moto gp than most of the rest of the riders.
Stoner one only one championship on the Ducati and lets grace it, that season the thing was a rocket ship, but he rode it very well.
The thing that gets me with Stoner is he's fast with an unbelievable control over the both brands of bikes he has ridden but when have you really seen any real exciting racing from him, and i don't mean winning from the front buit actually having a real dog fight with another rider, i can only think of one and that was Laguna Seca with Rossi.....Rossi has had countless races and exciting dog fights with several different riders throughout his career when the racing was much closer.
We all watch it for the same reason and i am a big Rossi fan but I'm now hoping Lorenzo does something this year as i feel he has matured as a rider and he comes across a lot better.....Stoner is just a cry baby and i feel quite sorry for his wife just now as not only will there be one cry baby in the house but two!!!
If Rossi's day is done in moto gp and he choses to retire, it will be a sad day and i think it will lose a big following......the only other rider who may have brought some excitement back to moto gp unfortunately lost his life last year.......R.I.P Marco.

Listen to your statement .... Ha ha ha. .. If someone has dogfights
all the time that means the other rider is there to challenge, No? So, what does it mean if the other rider usually wins by big margin ... Maybe that he's really good??? : ) hmmm so great point, I agree with U, Stoner is a great rider ... Maybe ... Just maybe even better than Rossi ... AT THIS POINT ATLEAST.. BUT NOT OVERALL CAREER .. YES ROSSI IS THE BEST THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER ... but if he doesn't win a championship on the Ducati, will U then say its the rider OR THE BIKE? ... : ). See what I did there
 
Guys we all respect Rossi and salute to him, no one has done it quite like him.

With that said, MOTO GP has changed guys!! ...no one man or machine is dominating the series anymore and that's a good thing. There's too much young talent now for that to happen.

I'm not saying he should retire because he no longer good, im saying he should because he's no longer the best...RETIRE WHILE YOU'RE STILL CONSIDERED THE KING.

Your name is already stamped in the history books as the best for over a decade, even when he didn't win...but, no more excuses!!

The more he strives for personal achievements, with failure, the more his peers will dishonor what he's already achieved.

Rossi, leave the sport while still on top !!!
 
Listen to your statement .... Ha ha ha. .. If someone has dogfights
all the time that means the other rider is there to challenge, No? So, what does it mean if the other rider usually wins by big margin ... Maybe that he's really good??? : ) hmmm so great point, I agree with U, Stoner is a great rider ... Maybe ... Just maybe even better than Rossi ... AT THIS POINT ATLEAST.. BUT NOT OVERALL CAREER .. YES ROSSI IS THE BEST THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER ... but if he doesn't win a championship on the Ducati, will U then say its the rider OR THE BIKE? ... : ). See what I did there

Equally both at fault!! :)
 
sorry for the long post but this is the translation of the original italian interview:

(If you don't read all of it - read the last two paragraphs...)

The performance of Valentino Rossi and his Ducati during the Grand Prix of Qatar, with a tenth place finish in the Italian race, over 33 seconds behind the winner, it will not go down in history as a simple story, but will become a turning point in the successful pilot run of nine times world champion.

Valentino's statements after the race are, in fact, the beginning of the end, the 'demand' divorce by the pilot, who does not see Ducati and able to make a bike to your taste and needs, not to be champion but to fight for a career and be, from time to time on the podium. Valentino is not able to resist, mentally, seventeen great prizes without a competitive bike. "I will not play the sixth to life," he said, referring to the performance of his teammate, Nicky Hayden, who apparently risked himself to get that position.

Valentino, for the first time in his career, is failing two basic components in order to remain competitive pilot: the enthusiasm and motivation. . Still maintaining the illusion and motivation ?, We asked directly after qualifying on Saturday. "Yes, yes, it has been a disappointment so far back end," he said, noting he did not understand the question. Yes I understood it perfectly, but would not answer, he knows more than anyone else that would recognize that it has dropped the arms, which has surrendered. And that is not his style, does not suit his character.

Valentino does not want to run more with the Ducati GP12 aluminum chassis asked to build. " Ducati do not follow my directions," he argues. "The fault is ours alone, Valentino has nothing to do", says Filippo Preziosi, the father of the Desmosedici, trying to take the blame. No matter whose fault it is, that is secondary. The important thing is that with this bike Valentino knows he can not be competitive, you will spend the season doing what he did in Qatar and that he, of course, is not willing to go through that.

Valentino, according to your wishes and directions, has already started preparing for the 2013 season, after completing his term with Ducati will not follow in any way. The first option, and which are already working, and there have been contacts through the Tech 3 Yamaha team. On Dec. 31 all the drivers that might have some involvement in decision making just contract. Valentino has his eye on the Italian satellite Yamaha knows that, at least start to the season, the Tech 3 have the same bike in the Yamaha factory team, and that it would be better to start the season on equal terms. For the team it would be no problem, a simple change of pilots and also Italian Italian. Valentino's salary would come from the sponsors that he would provide, including Monster, which is the personal sponsor of the pilot and is also the team. Also, right now for priority Valentino is back to winning races to make money, you would pull equally by media and advertising.
The only problem with this operation is clearly the position taken in this regard Yamaha., the owner of Tech 3, buy the bikes from the factory, but under special conditions, and always under the supervision of the official team, with regard to tests and developments. From outside one can think that Jorge Lorenzo could not fault the signing of Rossi on the Yamaha satellite team, an impression that is completely opposite of what George thinks. Lorenzo knows that with a Yamaha and won in 2010 and with the same bike you have, the more or less controlled. In addition, Valentino is a personal friend of the late superjefe Yamaha racing, Masao Furusawa, and their relationship with the factory Nippon end well, unlike Honda, which he left, slamming the door.

Another option is to buy Valentino arises directly, a Yamaha and mount its own structure, but that would conflict with the policy of the factory, have only one official and one satellite team with two bikes, four in total.. He has spoken and rumored that Coca Cola could be back to pay off the bike, but it is very complicated, because the brand of cola has a policy of sponsoring competitions, not individual athletes or teams. This type of sponsorship (some South American soccer teams are Coca Cola on their shirts) can do some local distributors, but they are small amounts, and we are talking about an operation of more than 15 million euros, only available to the plant, it has no interest in entering into this transaction.

Divorce and Phillip Morris

Linked with Ducati until 30 December, the pilot and gives up the year and would be willing to not run, terminating the contract with his current team and wait until 2013 to return to the world. At this point there could be an entente between the two parties. Ducati is a factory and its mission is simply to sell motorcycles, Ducati Corse division is a department within the factory, and now are not clear in Bologna if the image of Rossi ending at 33 seconds of the first and speaking ill Ducati is a good 'slogan' to sell bikes.

. In addition, the factory, with 800 million euros of losses, is on sale and Audi, the car manufacturer Volkswagen Group wants to buy assuming the debts, is auditing the numbers, so you can not increase debt or make trades threatening the sale, the only way to save the factory. As an example, a few weeks ago, a team-client Ducati saw him running a guarantee of 1.5 million euros against a default of 200,000, something that never happened despite repeated delays on the part of that team in payments to the factory. The issue was always resolved with a couple of calls and paying a little later ... This time, under the scrutiny of auditors Ducati Audi and executed the guarantee, leaving the MotoGP team in a rather delicate situation.

Until now Ducati's livelihood came from his sponsor, Phillip Morris, who first put the money to pay Rossi and develop new bikes, like the GP12 GP11.1 or now, but Ducati is not viable, after running a single career, re-order your sponsor money for a new bike.

Meanwhile, Rossi gives a bit as if it is right or wrong with Ducati, the subject already gives up. His concern is to get along with Phillip Morris. The Italian knows the power that has the tobacco and that if the French could be reprisals important. That's why before announcing the final divorce, wants to talk to the maker of snuff and clarify the positions, even inviting him to participate in his next project with the Tech 3 Yamaha. Only if Phillip Morris gives his approval, Rossi negotiated the termination of the contract.

It will not end the season

Valentino does not want to keep running with Ducati, the decision is made, there is no feeling between him and the factory, including Preziosi and Jeremy Burgess, communication is poor and Rossi knows that neither the new Bridgestone tires and a new possible evolution of the bike made at the discretion of the factory, not the pilot and his technical team, will enable it to be competitive and win races. So it's only a matter of time to mature the subject, if in Jerez and Estoril is repeated in Qatar, the mutual interest at the end will come to a good divorce, Ducati would save the salary of Valentino and the bad image while the pilot would save a fateful new year, and could be spent on preparing the 2013 and running while any rally or race car is so fond, staying in the limelight.

In Dorna are aware of all I have assumed that Valentino is not going to finish the season, but hope to return next year with a winning project and you do well other than a Ducati, who will not accept the limitation of revolutions in their engines, which will enter into force as of next season, jeopardizing the future of the brand of Borgo Panigale in MotoGP.
 
have any of you read this stuff:

Rossi out of excusses

Or read his comment about the new bike:

Rossi vents

More

Wow, these articles support all my thoughts and opinions is stated this far.

The only good has come from the Rossi/Ducati union is the development of a brilliant Monocoque Chassis and some of the best electronics on a GP bike...all of which a few of us will get a lil taste of on the 1199 ;-).

The article even says it, Stoner was winning races on the old bike Rossi inherited. Lorenzo beat him on the same identical bike in 2010. What does he think he's gonna do with a Tech 3 machine in 2013? Come on Rossi, you can't be hurting for money....because that's all that would be, a paycheck lol.

He should go beat up on those guys in WSBK lol.

Final thoughts...WOULD YOU HAVE RESPECTED DUCATI IF THEY HAD CHANGED THE BIKE ANY MORE? CHANGE WHAT IT IS THAT MAKES IT A DUCATI??

The truth of the matter is, the GP11 bike was damn good and the current bike still can.
 
The only good has come from the Rossi/Ducati union is the development of a brilliant Monocoque Chassis and some of the best electronics on a GP bike...all of which a few of us will get a lil taste of on the 1199 ;-).



Final thoughts...WOULD YOU HAVE RESPECTED DUCATI IF THEY HAD CHANGED THE BIKE ANY MORE? CHANGE WHAT IT IS THAT MAKES IT A DUCATI??

The truth of the matter is, the GP11 bike was damn good and the current bike still can.


personally, I have to commend Ducati for trying. They don't build Japanese aluminum frame bikes but they did it for Rossi and they failed.

But at the same time I don't respect them for foregoing their own designs. This is not the VR team, it's Ducati. Rossi's job is to do the best he can with a Ducati.
 
I agree about the title is misleading.
It sucks that Rossi is getting beat by Nicky and I like Nicky.
Rossi should go to another team and or WSBK. Jorge is doing just fine on Yamaha.
Ducati isn't at the top, plain and simple. Yamaha and Honda are just much better at this level of motorsport.
Personally I don't care for Stoner or Pedrosa but I do like HRC.
I do think Rossi could be the G.O.A.T. but like in F1, Michael Shumacher should have stayed retired. Rossi should either get serious or get out.
Results are the only thing that should matter, but it's more than that, its about sponsorships, sales, accessories, etc.
 
GPone.com quotes Rossi as saying: "Ducati didn't follow the direction that I indicated, but I'm not an engineer and I can't solve every problem."
...The problems with the bike haven't changed, and neither have my requests. It's unrideable, and it doesn't make much difference what track we are on.

"I'm not able to enter the corners hard on the brakes, and we can't hope the situation will change completely with the new Bridgestone tires. These aren't problems you can solve with set-up alone."
 
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Sad really.

We've all seen Rossi ride around problems in races with tyres, bent clipons, busted rear sets, but I guess he fundamentally got on with those bike.

Shame he can't make this work :eek:
 
I'm not against Rossi he has vastly more experince than Stoner and its hard to see him battling.. who knows what it is.. but career wise there is none to match him latley.. maybe its just what happens with time.

Thats the funny thing Stoner started racing at 4 Rossi at 12......which gives Stoner 2 more years on a motocycle.
 

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