Some track day prep questions

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😱 of all the dramas … I wasn’t expecting that!😂

Can you not wipe it properly clean and run it see if you can see what’s occurring?

I wasn’t expecting it either! I sent pictures of it to my local dealer and the dealer in Germany where I bought it. Of course, only one replied immediately – the local dealer hasn’t even bothered replying.

I was advised to get it straight into them. When I was on track and had the slide they immediately after notified end of session and as I was coming in the pits, it felt very unstable. I didn’t want to risk it.

It’s a shame as it was a perfect day for more sessions.
 
I wasn’t expecting it either! I sent pictures of it to my local dealer and the dealer in Germany where I bought it. Of course, only one replied immediately – the local dealer hasn’t even bothered replying.

I was advised to get it straight into them. When I was on track and had the slide they immediately after notified end of session and as I was coming in the pits, it felt very unstable. I didn’t want to risk it.

It’s a shame as it was a perfect day for more sessions.

From the photos that you posted there is absolutely nothing that can cause a slide on track. It's in your head, I was there.

But let's see what German dealer says
 
From the photos that you posted there is absolutely nothing that can cause a slide on track. It's in your head, I was there.

But let's see what German dealer says

It is entirely possible that it didn’t cause a slide. It didn’t feel normal though and more concerning was that the bike felt unstable even turning into the pit lane. The short hugger in front of the rear wheel was quite oily though. There was also a light mist of oil on top of the swingarm.

If I had put €6000 into the bike instead of €60,000 I might have been more willing to risk it. At the same time, seeing how the oil level had dropped I would have hated to drop oil on the track and ruin someone else’s day.

Better safe than sorry I think.

It will be interesting to hear what the dealer says.
 
you need to unblock the resident sticker expert....... he will tell you how to make a claim against the warranty for loss of track time.....:eek::cool:

The dealer took loads of pictures of the bike and saw the modifications, which I class as cosmetic for the most part. I asked if it would be covered by warranty and he said absolutely it would.

He actually made a point of asking when I am next on track and made a note of the dates to ensure it is done in time. The local dealer still hasn’t responded.

It’s disappointing to lose a day on track as I was looking forward to seeing if I could improve a bit, but it’s not the end of the world. I reckon there’s quite a few seconds remaining before I feel that I’m having to move my comfort zone a bit.

The laps that I had in the 2:29s happened while I was only concentrating on arm position to keep them relaxed and especially vision. When I did those two things I seemed to carry more speed through the turn without trying, probably because I was more relaxed on the bike and so I wasn’t holding the bars, plus not fixated on the apex…

I constantly have to remind myself that, at this stage, better laptimes come from technique and not from trying to go fast. I was also getting into fifth gear just before the bridge before turn three. Before this I had only got up to 4th gear. This was a result of getting the exit from term one better so I could get on the throttle sooner.

It definitely felt like I’m making progress.
 
I’ve got Most for three days in three weeks time and another three-day weekend at Brno after that. I think that will be the lot for the year unfortunately. So far I’ve put almost 3000 km on track this year.
 
Hope the last person that did the oil change was a Ducati tech… and hope you have the Akra tune on the bike and not an aftermarket one.

Also, didn’t you say you had to drain some oil out because you overfilled it recently? Did you check the drain bolt to see if it’s leaking. Could be something as simple as that.

Dealers don’t have any say into whether Ducati warranties things. The dealer just reports the problem and gives a possible cause. The regional customer service rep weighs these things and makes a decision.
 
The dealer took loads of pictures of the bike and saw the modifications, which I class as cosmetic for the most part. I asked if it would be covered by warranty and he said absolutely it would.

He actually made a point of asking when I am next on track and made a note of the dates to ensure it is done in time. The local dealer still hasn’t responded.

It’s disappointing to lose a day on track as I was looking forward to seeing if I could improve a bit, but it’s not the end of the world. I reckon there’s quite a few seconds remaining before I feel that I’m having to move my comfort zone a bit.

The laps that I had in the 2:29s happened while I was only concentrating on arm position to keep them relaxed and especially vision. When I did those two things I seemed to carry more speed through the turn without trying, probably because I was more relaxed on the bike and so I wasn’t holding the bars, plus not fixated on the apex…

I constantly have to remind myself that, at this stage, better laptimes come from technique and not from trying to go fast. I was also getting into fifth gear just before the bridge before turn three. Before this I had only got up to 4th gear. This was a result of getting the exit from term one better so I could get on the throttle sooner.

It definitely felt like I’m making progress.

So what exactly is dealer going to do now?
 
The short hugger in front of the rear wheel was quite oily though. There was also a light mist of oil on top of the swingarm

All normal for V4R, I had it many times too.

As long as there is no real leak, and by real leak I mean you see actual oil on pegs, boots, bottom of oil pan, in front in starter motor or on sides of engine - you're fine. Sprinkles is nothing, needs to be real oil.
 
All normal for V4R, I had it many times too.

As long as there is no real leak, and by real leak I mean you see actual oil on pegs, boots, bottom of oil pan, in front in starter motor or on sides of engine - you're fine. Sprinkles is nothing, needs to be real oil.

The gasket was not looking normal and, with respect, it really shouldn’t be normal to throw oil toward the rear wheel. I am assuming that the gasket has failed, but it will be interesting to figure out why.

A guy in a group I am in who has taken apart a lot of these engines says that the stuff they use for the gasket can clog up the filters and cause this exact issue.
 
Make sure you get this warranty work in writing that Ducati or the dealer will cover it. I've been down this route where a dealer SAYS it's under warranty and then the manufacturer says otherwise. Also, can't imagine Ducati would authorize an engine to be cracked open so quickly and without at first having the dealer assess it in person.
 

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