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It amazes me that you can sit at traffic lights, mince about at low speed in the sun… that’s fine🤷🏼‍♂️ but an average track rider that probably only rides in tge dry and warm weather, starts it warms it up rides it as it was meant stops lets it cool down .. and probably maintains it more than a road bike is more harmful🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Apparently, they are going to use a different gasket sealant. I have asked exactly what they are using. It must have been recommended and/or approved by Ducati.

Perhaps that indicates a potential issue with the liquid gasket that Ducati use or it might simply be an accepted alternative based on availability.
 
andyb said:
It amazes me that you can sit at traffic lights, mince about at low speed in the sun… that’s fine🤷🏼‍♂️ but an average track rider that probably only rides in tge dry and warm weather, starts it warms it up rides it as it was meant stops lets it cool down .. and probably maintains it more than a road bike is more harmful🤷🏼‍♂️
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I think he might have looked at the modifications and assumed you’d have to be an idiot to do that if you weren’t racing it… 🤷‍♂️😂

They are proceeding with the standard maintenance schedule now I have explained that it is not raced.
 
panibadboy said:
Right.

That's why you never go to random Ducati dealers.

Barni or the likes of JHP racing or Moto Rapido.

My German mechanic is servicing his V4R fleet (about 4 bikes) mainly at Barni.
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He simply made an assumption. I corrected his misunderstanding.

While it is under warranty I will stick with a dealer and this was not a random dealer – it was the dealer I bought the bike from.

Fixed under warranty and therefore no charge.

I’ll be interested to learn whether the different liquid gasket they are using is simply due to availability or if Ducati recognise an issue with the one they use. I don’t think it is a coincidence that I had the same issue on the sump on my SP2.

As they have the covers off the engine, I’ve asked them to check valve clearance. I’ll be interested to see if this needed to be adjusted.
 
andyb said:
Ducati have been using threebond for years on all their machines and still do in the factory ….

Can’t see what the problem is to fix by changing
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As I said, this is the second bike I have had where the liquid sealant has had to be done again. I’m not saying it’s the end of the world or that it’s a poor choice of sealant. Just stating facts.

It might be worth stating again that the workshop said they have had quite a few V4 with exactly the same problem.

Hopefully, I can find out if Ducati recommended using this instead of Threebond or if the dealer simply finds it easier to obtain and Ducati are okay with it.
 
I had asked them to check the clutch as I don’t have the tool yet. They responded:

“We checked it. The entire clutch is recommended to be changed around 2,500km.”

I thought they might have told me the result of their check... I’m guessing they didn’t check it. Maybe it’s a language thing.

I should have known better than to ask. I’ll get the tool ordered.

Dealers really are useless. I believe I need to use them at least for servicing in order to maintain the warranty.
 
panibadboy said:
Should have maybe been more precise, measure clutch plate thickness.

But yeah, your dealer is just a standard road bikes dealer.
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Normally I would expect someone to say yes, I checked it and… conclusion. They literally just confirmed they checked it and did not tell me anything else – not if it’s okay, needs something, might soon need something… Nothing. Just confirmed they checked it.
 
This is the problem… you are complaining about the dealers lack of knowledge but you clearly don’t know yourself, and you don’t know what condition of wear your clutch is at.
The dealer just want to change a lump of clutch pack and that’s that at what 300 quid plus parts and all the kit to do it.

I am saying at this stage you don’t need to disassemble the clutch you can see how much wear it has by measuring without removing anything.
That’s why it’s easy to do and do regularly…., if you know, or just put up with the dealer pulling your pants down!
 
andyb said:
This is the problem… you are complaining about the dealers lack of knowledge but you clearly don’t know yourself, and you don’t know what condition of wear your clutch is at.
The dealer just want to change a lump of clutch pack and that’s that at what 300 quid plus parts and all the kit to do it.

I am saying at this stage you don’t need to disassemble the clutch you can see how much wear it has by measuring without removing anything.
That’s why it’s easy to do and do regularly…., if you know, or just put up with the dealer pulling your pants down!
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I didn’t complain about a lack of knowledge. I said that I asked if they checked the clutch and they said yes without giving me any conclusion. Much like if you asked them to check the tires and they said we’ve checked them… and?

I was under the impression that you needed to disassemble the clutch to check the stack height, plates and perhaps inspect the basket. If it actually does not need to be disassembled, then I should be able to check it when I get it back.

I would be surprised if it has not worn a bit considering it has nearly 4,000km on it and about 3,000km of that was on track. I’ve not felt any obvious slip though.
 
spooky said:
Normally I would expect someone to say yes, I checked it and… conclusion. They literally just confirmed they checked it and did not tell me anything else – not if it’s okay, needs something, might soon need something… Nothing. Just confirmed they checked it.
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