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My two cents, I obviously went with the Tri. I LOVE the color scheme and ABS was an absolute must for me. Not to mention a mental perk of having the top of the line. And yes, there are some great deals on slightly used Tris. Out here they are going for about $25k. And you shoudl be able to get extended warranty, just go with a reputable company.
 
FrostyFire said:
The others were too nice to you.

You are ....... retarded.
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I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
 
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gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.
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25k new or used?
 
jjsC6 said:
So you think that when somebody is sitting at a stop sign in the rain, about to pull out, the fact that we are riding a Panigale and not some piece of .... turd bike she'll decide to wait for us to go by instead of pulling out in front of us?
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No in the rain you should anticipate a drivers behavior before it happens and ride within yourself.


Pani Dropper said:
LOL at you having no idea who you are talking to. If anything, AntiHero has more business riding a Panigale than anyone else on this forum, dipshit.
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You can ride whoevers nuts you want, doesn't mean I will.
 
gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
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Yeah, you don't need airbags or seatbelts either, but they sure help when you get into an accident.

You don't need leathers or a helmet either, unless you're going to crash.

We all learned to ride on non-ABS bikes, thanks tips we know the difference. The difference between ABS and non-ABS is it's virtually impossible to crash under braking with ABS. No matter how long you've been riding for, no matter how good of a rider you think you are, you can still lock up the brakes and crash when some ....... moron cuts you off unexpectedly and your tires are still cold.
 
gatti man said:
No in the rain you should anticipate a drivers behavior before it happens and ride within yourself.



You can ride whoevers nuts you want, doesn't mean I will.
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You can't anticipate an unexpected split-second manoeuvre by a vehicle that didn't see you. Using that theory you should just stay at home, because I anticipate there will be stupid drivers on the roads today.
 
FrostyFire said:
Yeah, you don't need airbags or seatbelts either, but they sure help when you get into an accident.

You don't need leathers or a helmet either, unless you're going to crash.

We all learned to ride on non-ABS bikes, thanks tips we know the difference. The difference between ABS and non-ABS is it's virtually impossible to crash under braking with ABS. No matter how long you've been riding for, no matter how good of a rider you think you are, you can still lock up the brakes and crash when some ....... moron cuts you off unexpectedly and your tires are still cold.
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What? Its virtually impossible? Lmao. The one thing that units all street riders is reliance and excuses. If someone cuts you off what's your first reaction? Brake or swerve? If you swerve and brake no amount of abs will save you, you are low siding which is what most rookie riders do. So abs really isn't the end all be all. The only way abs saves you is if you keep it straight and apply brakes. Which most likely means slamming into a car.
 
gatti man said:
What? Its virtually impossible? Lmao. The one thing that units all street riders is reliance and excuses. If someone cuts you off what's your first reaction? Brake or swerve? If you swerve and brake no amount of abs will save you, you are low siding which is what most rookie riders do. So abs really isn't the end all be all. The only way abs saves you is if you keep it straight and apply brakes. Which most likely means slamming into a car.
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I see you've done zero research on ABS for motorcycles. Please show up with some facts next time not stupid theories.
 
gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
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If you are under extreme braking, you cant turn with or without ABS. This is physics my friend. I would rather stay in a strait line while braking and hit the car then go down at a faster speed and still hit the car. Odds are in your favor staying up. ABS does not prevent you from taking evasive action. You sound like like type of guy that drives his auto in stick mode because "I can shift faster". You can beat launch control, you cant beat traction control and you cant beat ABS. Its not just this forum, it all over the place. This is almost as stupid as the "helmets do more harm then good" argument. At this point I think the OP understands ABS is of great value more any reasons.
 
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gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
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gatti man said:
No in the rain you should anticipate a drivers behavior before it happens and ride within yourself.



You can ride whoevers nuts you want, doesn't mean I will.
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You are right about one thing...."normally smart" folk do fall in love with technology that works to help lessen their odds of bad things happening. I'm always amazed at people who truly believe they can control every situation. I hope you continue to live a charmed life, but I'm not going to lie to you - I'm going to have a hard time not laughing my ass off if someone pulls out in front of you and takes you out. Believe it or not, you are not in 100% control as you think you are.
 
gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
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Good lord what a load of crap. This entire concept that technology that decreases loss of traction while braking is worthless, because you should be a better rider, is such horseshit. And I'm sure you refuse to buy a microwave because a good cook doesn't need that silly crutch of technology. First off, it is ridiculous to expect everybody who owns this bike or any other to be some expert with skills approved by, I guess, you. Yes, whether you are going to swerve or brake will be determined by the rider in a split second, but if the choice is brake, OF COURSE technology that helps you not lock up is a good thing. Under that logic nor should ABS ever be in cars. Nor that traction control snake oil. Matter of fact all technology is just a crutch for you if you are not a "true" rider like yourself. Christ, get over yourself. ABS has and will save lives, and bikes, and value. Lord, I stopped reading this forum for a long time...and now I remember why. I don't desire suffering ego drenched .........s.
 
gatti man said:
I've ridden high powered bikes on the street my whole life. For two years I had nothing but an R1. Ridden in sub 30 degree weather and pouring rain. ABS wasn't needed. I will say it again. This bike has a rain mode for cutting power if you need abs you shouldn't be riding a panigale. 600cc or less for you.

This forum is so in love with ABS I have a feeling very few of you understand just how little abs would help in an emergency situation. If you are leaned at all abs won't save you if you grab brake. In the dry you don't need abs unless you ride like a complete moron. In the wet someone would have to cut out in front of you, the rider would need to stay perfectly straight and apply brake. Then most likely hitting the car. That almost never happens. Most riders try evasive turns or lay it down.

Honestly its amazing how many normally smart riders fall in love with a useless crutch and blindly recommend it. Its false confidence.
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All of the research I have seen disagrees with you. Also, as someone who rides multiple bikes, I don't instantly remember the maximum braking threshold of each bike. They all vary in braking, leaning, traction, clutch engagement, and fueling. I would rather have that extra safety catch on as many of them as possible. Oh, and the below research is for first generation systems, modern ABS is better.

MSF ABS stopping distance
IIHS Motorcycle ABS
 
I wouldn't buy a bike without ABS again.... Have I owned them..of course... But I am not prepared to go backwards...
 
We never had the option of not having ABS here in OZ.
It was standard.
 

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