Suspension rabbit hole

SuperDomestique · Dec 3, 2023

baggerman said:
Don't be changing anything else before you sort what you have. I agree it's a winter thing and since it's summer...

I’d agree. See how the bike handles with the forks in the right spot. SAP is more important on drive than anything but sounds like that’s sorted at the moment.

I’d try to avoid the pivot swap at all costs. If it were me I’d just pick up a used base 22 V4 or R and swap over stuff if you want the updated SAP.

Enjoy the bike for the riding not the wrenching.

SuperDomestique · Dec 3, 2023

What you need to work on is camera mounting placement so we can live vicariously through you! Would love to ride PI and come see a race there one of these days

cl955 · Dec 3, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
I’d try to avoid the pivot swap at all costs. If it were me I’d just pick up a used base 22 V4 or R

With the mods already done to the OP's bike, I'd say it is worth doing. It's not that expensive and you can always sell the parts if you trade up or don't like it (unlikely).

andyb · Dec 3, 2023

cl955 said:
With the mods already done to the OP's bike, I'd say it is worth doing. It's not that expensive and you can always sell the parts if you trade up or don't like it (unlikely).

Is this SD?

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BP PanigaleV4S · Dec 3, 2023

For the record, the fairings aren't ......, but they are Chinese and not the genuine Ducati he claimed them to be.

SuperDomestique · Dec 3, 2023

bp_SFV4 said:
For the record, the fairings aren't ......, but they are Chinese and not the genuine Ducati he claimed them to be.

I stand corrected. Apologies.

andyb · Dec 4, 2023

SD........ pop in to your local dealer they will sort stuff out for you you don't understand.......

BP PanigaleV4S · Dec 4, 2023

Since when has a Ducati dealership ever solved a problem?

andyb · Dec 4, 2023

bp_SFV4 said:
Since when has a Ducati dealership ever solved a problem?

Probably better than an internet expert though …

baggerman · Dec 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
I stand corrected. Apologies.

I'm missing something here. If you do a lot of track time and toss it away from time to time would you not have Chinese fairings? That Ducati stuff is expensive.

SuperDomestique · Dec 4, 2023

bp_SFV4 said:
Since when has a Ducati dealership ever solved a problem?

In their defense, the dealership did sort out my fork debacle tout suite when I brought it to their attention. But I’d agree, I don’t look forward to getting service done by a dealership due to the quality of the work done and price. You just feel like you’re getting raked over the coals when you go there.

Are there any bike brands where service is better?

SuperDomestique · Dec 4, 2023

baggerman said:
I'm missing something here. If you do a lot of track time and toss it away from time to time would you not have Chinese fairings? That Ducati stuff is expensive.

I’m living on the edge running the stock fairings. And I ride the bike on the street.

I also don’t ride trackdays at 10/10ths. I go there to ride comfortably safe at a decent pace to try to learn good bike control. Unlike Bautista wannabes with replica liveries that are chasing times and barging through the field like a knob.

andyb · Dec 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
I’m living on the edge running the stock fairings. And I ride the bike on the street.

I also don’t ride trackdays at 10/10ths. I go there to ride comfortably safe at a decent pace to try to learn good bike control. Unlike Bautista wannabes with replica liveries that are chasing times and barging through the field like a knob.

pics!! show us you strutting your stuff......

baggerman · Dec 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
In their defense, the dealership did sort out my fork debacle tout suite when I brought it to their attention. But I’d agree, I don’t look forward to getting service done by a dealership due to the quality of the work done and price. You just feel like you’re getting raked over the coals when you go there.

Are there any bike brands where service is better?

Wait you let other people work on your bike? I don't trust nobody else's work. Andy said somewhere that he spun a bearing and ventilated the case. Bearings spin for primarily two reasons; lubrication failures or rod big end stretch (they get pulled into an oval). Careful assembly will negate that kind of stuff. So now I'm tempted to check the bottom end since the bike is mostly apart anyway. Can't trust the factory either. Maybe I'll just take the oil pump out and blueprint it.

SuperDomestique · Dec 4, 2023

baggerman said:
Wait you let other people work on your bike? I don't trust nobody else's work. Andy said somewhere that he spun a bearing and ventilated the case. Bearings spin for primarily two reasons; lubrication failures or rod big end stretch (they get pulled into an oval). Careful assembly will negate that kind of stuff. So now I'm tempted to check the bottom end since the bike is mostly apart anyway. Can't trust the factory either. Maybe I'll just take the oil pump out and blueprint it.

It was a warranty issue so I had to work with the dealer…

Not sure about spinning bearings and how it’s relevant to this thread

baggerman · Dec 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
It was a warranty issue so I had to work with the dealer…

Not sure about spinning bearings and how it’s relevant to this thread

We were talking about trusting others work. I have motor/chassis induced crashaphobia. I just feel better having done it myself and if Andy's motor had been blueprinted first unlikely it would have lost a bearing. I'm glad the dealer fixed your bike correctly.

SuperDomestique said:
I’m living on the edge running the stock fairings. And I ride the bike on the street.

I also don’t ride trackdays at 10/10ths. I go there to ride comfortably safe at a decent pace to try to learn good bike control. Unlike Bautista wannabes with replica liveries that are chasing times and barging through the field like a knob.

Andy how much are you going to sell your cherry ducati fairings to SD for? You know the plastic wrapped ones in the shed?

SuperDomestique · Dec 4, 2023

andyb said:
pics!! show us you strutting your stuff......

You asked for it V4S photo gallery

SuperDomestique · Dec 4, 2023

baggerman said:
We were talking about trusting others work.

My motto is trust but verify. But also I make a mistakes too and not to worry about it too much.

And if I lay the bike down at a track day, the least of my problems will be if I had OEM or Chinese fairings on it.

baggerman · Dec 5, 2023

Sliders, case guards and chinese fairings. Spare levers. The nice thing about the electronics is it's unlikely to be a highside. You can lowside going pretty fast and be totally unscaved. Just don't tumble.

SuperDomestique · Dec 5, 2023

baggerman said:
Sliders, case guards and chinese fairings. Spare levers. The nice thing about the electronics is it's unlikely to be a highside. You can lowside going pretty fast and be totally unscaved. Just don't tumble.

I ride trackdays pretty mildly. Minimal trail braking, not rushing the corner, times are irrelevant. My main concern is oil on the track or unplanned contact with another rider.

So andy spun a bearing, huh? That sucks. That’s another one.

Will be interesting to hear if this change in rake angle fixes the turn in.

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