Trade - 1199 S Tricolore for 1199R

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My 2 cents... After the R came out I was kinda pissed and wanted one myself but I do love the Tri paint scheme much better. Also, after hearing from multiple R owners that its not as street friendly and stalls due to the lightened flywheel and Ti internals I'm not so bothered by it and couldn't justify taking a loss on the trade in. If your not going to track it a lot then I wouldn't take the loss and spend the extra $$$. But if that's what moves you then go for it!
 
I bought the Tri because I think it looks so much better than the S. The R looks like the S. I don't ride on the track so i will never need the difference in performance that the R might give me, even if I was good enough to exploit it.

If it's not a track bike I don't see how the trade makes any sense at all, unless you are a Dealer maybe ;)
 
flobrandx said:
My 2 cents... After the R came out I was kinda pissed and wanted one myself but I do love the Tri paint scheme much better. Also, after hearing from multiple R owners that its not as street friendly and stalls due to the lightened flywheel and Ti internals I'm not so bothered by it and couldn't justify taking a loss on the trade in. If your not going to track it a lot then I wouldn't take the loss and spend the extra $$$. But if that's what moves you then go for it!
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+1 the R is a pure track bike. I don't want something that is going to stall 2-3 times going in traffic when I go out for a jaunt on the back roads. I don't care how much faster it spins up.

Also....my own opinion...but the "r" paint scheme is a bit of a let down. Looks bland and cluttered at the same time. Why not hold out until they come out with a ducati corse SE scheme (which you know they will)?
 
Well, we all might get a bit of a surprise when we will hear about the 2014R version.

As sbk rules are to change, the R version will have to get a lot lot closer to the racing bike. so things will change and its just the question how dramatically they will change. I don t think that the half automatic suspension will get on as it s no good racing yet and too much of a gamble.. but rear swingarm is said to be under review as the current Alstare ones are closed and not open where they are attached to the engine. Ducati must have learned a lot on the current version, knows they are not competitive as such and must now be looking very clearly at every piece of the bike.. so i'm very curious as to what they will come up with ... i would be very surprised of the R would be just another paintjob and some kit... the 899 sporting a DSSA cannot be mistaken.. the fact that it is a newly developped engine also is pritty interesting...

a dealer making sure he's making such a attractive offer also sounds like someone making sure he's got no overyear inventory left....

if you want kick : add a 42 tooth sprocket... :)
 
kope999R said:
Well, we all might get a bit of a surprise when we will hear about the 2014R version.

As sbk rules are to change, the R version will have to get a lot lot closer to the racing bike. so things will change and its just the question how dramatically they will change. I don t think that the half automatic suspension will get on as it s no good racing yet and too much of a gamble.. but rear swingarm is said to be under review as the current Alstare ones are closed and not open where they are attached to the engine. Ducati must have learned a lot on the current version, knows they are not competitive as such and must now be looking very clearly at every piece of the bike.. so i'm very curious as to what they will come up with ... i would be very surprised of the R would be just another paintjob and some kit... the 899 sporting a DSSA cannot be mistaken.. the fact that it is a newly developped engine also is pritty interesting...

a dealer making sure he's making such a attractive offer also sounds like someone making sure he's got no overyear inventory left....

if you want kick : add a 42 tooth sprocket... :)
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Trade-in coming up! Gotta find me an excuse to tell my wife :D
 
Xbox said:
Guys that are saying how quick the R spins up, compared to the S/Tric - did you have the 41T conversion on your S/Tric?
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Yes... my friend(that bought my old S) just did the 41 conversion and we rode them back to back. We both agree that the R is definitely faster. I'm 40lbs heavier than him and I can pull ahead. At higher speeds it's rather trivial since it's a matter of who's got more balls but it's faster nonetheless.

The 500rpm advantage has a lot to do with it as well, IMHO.

btw, the two bikes are identically equipped except for the R motor (Termi full with the latest evo map).
 
I don't think the R is any harder to ride for the street than the S/base - thats a load of crap.

I think its going to come down to what you feel about the bike. If you want the latest and greatest, its the R. You have a very good bike as it is. If you feel bigger, bolder, badder having an R - go for it. Especially since its not any better on the street and you aren't really tracking it either.

Is it "worth" it - in actual dollars, NO. .. to your ego and how you feel - thats completely up to you.
 
kope999R said:
…a dealer making sure he's making such a attractive offer also sounds like someone making sure he's got no overyear inventory left....
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You do realize the dealer would be taking in a used '12 Tricolore as a trade in and very little cash to make up the difference.

This particular trade would allow the owner to mitigate the perceived loss in value Tricolore bikes seem to sustain after introduction of the R. And in my opinion, if someone wanted to upgrade later on to a '14 R, it would take significantly less money to go from '13 R then from '12 Tri.
 
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anthem said:
I don't think the R is any harder to ride for the street than the S/base - thats a load of crap.

I think its going to come down to what you feel about the bike. If you want the latest and greatest, its the R. You have a very good bike as it is. If you feel bigger, bolder, badder having an R - go for it. Especially since its not any better on the street and you aren't really tracking it either.

Is it "worth" it - in actual dollars, NO. .. to your ego and how you feel - thats completely up to you.
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That's right... I ride my R almost everyday to work (12km) each way with heavy traffic. Sure the R is screaming for me to open the throttle wide open but she does just fine in traffic.

About the stalling during stop and go... This will happen in the beginning when you're getting used to the bike. She will stall if you don't feather the clutch appropriately. This is supposed to be because of the lighter flywheel and it's not a defect. I noticed there was a difference because I had an S. I doubt if anybody new to the Panigale will notice the difference. I think I stalled her a total of 5 times or less. You will look like a total newb but it's the price you pay for having a bad ass machine. :D
 
Good things to consider

First off, thank you all for responding. This is exactly what I had hoped for, as it relates to something to think about.

Great to see this forum back to normal.

I haven't decided completely, but I think I am going to stay with my Tri, for most of the reasons posted above.

Specifically, for the street, I won't get the most use of the R & what it has to offer & for me the cosmetics don't do the bike justice.

I think the Tri is the best looking bike on the market and the little more power isn't a big enough factor on the street to change.

More importantly, my gut tells me something new is coming and I'm going to be pissed that I didn't wait..... I did this with my Tri, so I will wait it out a few months to see what is coming later in the year.

Thanks again for all the responses, as I appreciate the info.

Thanks-Big Boost
 
ddd269 said:
No red stripe on the R wheels... Only on the S and the Tri.

Not sure if they are lighter though. That's news to me too.
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On older R versions they used to be made of magnesium... not anymore. As far I know they are the same as the S version.
 
One of the press articles covering the COTA R event mentioned the Marchesini wheels for 2013 were slightly lighter than the 2012 wheels. I would imagine these new wheels were used for all 2013 1199 bikes spec'd with Marchesini.

EDIT: turns out the claim that the R wheels were lighter was false. motorcycle-usa.com reported this on their first ride review, but has since corrected the statement. You can read about the correction in the comments below the article:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/101/1...e/2013-Ducati-1199-Panigale-R-First-Ride.aspx

So, R wheel are same as S wheels as same as in 2012.
 
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Neither one of those R's were delivered with magnesium wheels. I only know of one R model that was (Wilkson knows as well since I think he owned or did own that model :) and one other homologation model in the 90's that was not an R was delivered with 3 spoke mags.
 

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