Trade my Panigale in for a Vespa?

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From my experience with DNA and by the sounds of how things are going, DNA will try to make things right.
Now, on the chance that they cannot figure it out on time, perhaps propose the loaner of a press bike.
 
Red Dawn said:
Lemon Law on a 28k mile bike? Good one... Why are you so easy to jump on the idea that Ducati is trying to blow him off? I can promise that if Dennis contacted anyone he knows at Ducati, they are trying to get him handled. You guys are all so funny. Throwing stones and bitchin at the drop of a hat. It's always Ducati shitting on the little guy.:rolleyes:

Dennis- get with me offline. I will PM you.
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8 months later dude....
Are you retarded?

This is pathetic of Ducati. There's zero rationalizing this. How can they not fix their own "amazing motorcycle??"
 
Ha! And then find it two blocks later after someone ditched it for being possessed!
 
If I were you and all you have done to promote this bike and praise Ducati, they owe you a brand new engine, out of a showroom bike get you back and up and running in 2-3 days and off you go. If that's not a fix then you know its electronics of some sort.
 
jduc1215 said:
If I were you and all you have done to promote this bike and praise Ducati, they owe you a brand new engine, out of a showroom bike get you back and up and running in 2-3 days and off you go. If that's not a fix then you know its electronics of some sort.
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Not trying to be argumentative, but that's just silly. I hope Dennis gets his problem sorted as well, but having been SM & GM at a dealership, the idea of giving someone a new engine for a sporadic electronic/fueling glitch is never going to fly. As he's said himself, the bike is sound save this one thing. I know problems like that that are hard to repeat are a bitch to diagnose, and often end up with a lot of money being wasted throwing parts at an issue with no result. In my case we'd have kept the bike and had a mech keep it and ride it to work every day trying to recreate the condition. Need to know the conditions when it happens, etc to help out. Phone video would be nice as well to document for warranty.

Good luck getting sorted AH!
 
I think jduc is factoring in the promo/media coverage as justification. Also, the amount of time and parts Ducati has already thrown at this would nearly cover the cost of a new bike....

The conditions are: there is no pattern. Sometimes hot, sometimes cold. Sometimes city, sometimes freeway. Sometimes when it starts, sometimes only when warm. Sometimes high idle is accompanied by popping in the exhaust, sometimes not and vice-versa.

As for the phone video--how 'bout GoPro 1080? :)
 
Exactly, what steve cannot comprehend is how valuable your trip will be to Ducati for the advertisement and media coverage inside and outside the Ducati family the amount of money paid to get this much coverage would be huge. They are getting the attention for free and with them not paying you to do this trip its like winning the lottery of advertising. A commercial campaign to sell Ducati would easily cost tens of millions yet they wont give you or even lend you a 23,000 bike for all the attention? Especially given you have a history with the company. Idk mabey they think if they give you one they will have to do it for everyone, who knows.
 
HarmonyJim said:
Have you tried a different ECU, or program such as the TuneBoy to see if the cause is ECU programing related? Compression and leakdown tests? Battery replacement? I know these sound off the wall, but at this point it would appear time to "think outside the Ducati box". Good luck. I would be pissed as well. In regards to the Vespa idea, when I was in Italy, there were zillions of total babes running around on mopeds - might be a great way to meet some of them (many Italian girls are beyond stunning, love to party, and for the vast majority, are totally fit. Unfortunately they also smoke like chimneys).
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I agree with the Italian girls comment. Super hot, but they are soon to look like they are 50 by the time they are 30 :eek:
 
AntiHero said:
I think jduc is factoring in the promo/media coverage as justification. Also, the amount of time and parts Ducati has already thrown at this would nearly cover the cost of a new bike....

The conditions are: there is no pattern. Sometimes hot, sometimes cold. Sometimes city, sometimes freeway. Sometimes when it starts, sometimes only when warm. Sometimes high idle is accompanied by popping in the exhaust, sometimes not and vice-versa.

As for the phone video--how 'bout GoPro 1080? :)
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I had ghosts in my MV F4 that were very similar to this, and it drove me and the mechs CRAZY trying to figure out WTH was going on. In the end, they replaced the wiring harness and *poof* problem solved. While there was no apparent problem with it, the suspicious was that it was compromised such that there was an intermittent short somewhere within. The ghost was indeed exorcised with a brand new harness.
 
Jello said:
I had ghosts in my MV F4 that were very similar to this, and it drove me and the mechs CRAZY trying to figure out WTH was going on. In the end, they replaced the wiring harness and *poof* problem solved. While there was no apparent problem with it, the suspicious was that it was compromised such that there was an intermittent short somewhere within. The ghost was indeed exorcised with a brand new harness.
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Only $224 on ebay, too! Hmmmm....
 
AntiHero said:
Only $224 on ebay, too! Hmmmm....
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It's a significant amount of labor to replace the harness, and if you cock it up along the way you could create yet another one of those impossible to diagnose and spot little shorts that will leave you right back at square 1.

The right way to go about it (if you can convince a dealer mech that there's a reasonable chance this is it) is to get them to give this a shot via warrantee service The benefit of this advice versus some of the others is that
A) it's not just bitching, which will yield nothing but heartburn on both sides
B) it's not completely unreasonable (such as a new bike, new engine, etc)
C) it's not a legal process (e.g. lemon law)
and of course, it might just work.

The downside is that it's a total crapshoot and they may balk at doing it, but you have at least one anecdotal data point that it's worked in the past.

Good luck, man.
 
BOBBYTHEBULL said:
I agree with the Italian girls comment. Super hot, but they are soon to look like they are 50 by the time they are 30 :eek:
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I would have to disagree with that statement :D
They are more "smokers" WRT US ones, unfortunately (though, the no-fscking-smoke culture is coming there too), but they do look relatively fit and stunning even at age.
 
Here is one"¦.

Ducati gives you a "loaner bike" to ride "around the world" and at the end of it, they get to keep the first Panigale to ride around the world"¦

And while you are gone on the RTW bike, they can keep yours to diagnose and fix"¦.

NOLA
 
NOLA said:
Here is one"¦.

Ducati gives you a "loaner bike" to ride "around the world" and at the end of it, they get to keep the first Panigale to ride around the world"¦

And while you are gone on the RTW bike, they can keep yours to diagnose and fix"¦.

NOLA
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IMO, for Ducati PR reasons, it would be better that the same bike completes the two rides (US and EU).
 
NOLA said:
Here is one"¦.

Ducati gives you a "loaner bike" to ride "around the world" and at the end of it, they get to keep the first Panigale to ride around the world"¦

And while you are gone on the RTW bike, they can keep yours to diagnose and fix"¦.

NOLA
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win, win situation..
 
HotIce said:
IMO, for Ducati PR reasons, it would be better that the same bike completes the two rides (US and EU).
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Agreed 100%. Besides, Ducati need to understand the nature of the problem. They are still building the knowledge base of customer bikes' service history, and the ones with more miles on them are the canaries for the rest of us.
 
Steve B said:
Agreed 100%. Besides, Ducati need to understand the nature of the problem. They are still building the knowledge base of customer bikes' service history, and the ones with more miles on them are the canaries for the rest of us.
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Ha, never considered that my bike is a canary, but I think you are 100% correct. Or perhaps I'm the canary and the bike is the cage?
 

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