Tuneboy Discussion

Last question, I swear. Can anyone confirm if there are 899 maps?

Thanks!

Yes, there are 899 maps included.

Cool, thanks!

Just bought it

Hopefully it doesn't take forever to get here.

Hi all,

I am looking for some help with the installation of the tuneboy quickshifter and the nudge buttons for cruise control. I had no issues installing the tuneboy software and flashing tunes to the ecu, cruise works as expected using the starter to engage and set, so I moved on to the nudge buttons and quickshifter but no matter what I try I can't seem to get the ecu to recognise them.
I have saved new trim files using config sys in tools menu and checking the quickshiter and nudge with resume boxes and adjusting shift pressures , not all the way to the left , then loaded new files to ecu and no go. I have tried with power o2 box ticked also fce box ticked still nothing, tried kill ignition on upshift , nothing, even went as far as swapping the o2 plugs around , nothing!

I know its probably something simple I have missed or stupid I have done but I am at the point where I would piss on a spark plug if it would do any good.

Any help will be appreciated and thanks in advance.

crankman said:

Hi all,

I am looking for some help with the installation of the tuneboy quickshifter and the nudge buttons for cruise control. I had no issues installing the tuneboy software and flashing tunes to the ecu, cruise works as expected using the starter to engage and set, so I moved on to the nudge buttons and quickshifter but no matter what I try I can't seem to get the ecu to recognise them.
I have saved new trim files using config sys in tools menu and checking the quickshiter and nudge with resume boxes and adjusting shift pressures , not all the way to the left , then loaded new files to ecu and no go. I have tried with power o2 box ticked also fce box ticked still nothing, tried kill ignition on upshift , nothing, even went as far as swapping the o2 plugs around , nothing!

I know its probably something simple I have missed or stupid I have done but I am at the point where I would piss on a spark plug if it would do any good.

Any help will be appreciated and thanks in advance.

Click to expand...

There are a lot of stupid and simple people on this forum, so you are not alone

crankman said:

I am looking for some help with the installation of the tuneboy quickshifter and the nudge buttons for cruise control. I had no issues installing the tuneboy software and flashing tunes to the ecu, cruise works as expected using the starter to engage and set, so I moved on to the nudge buttons and quickshifter but no matter what I try I can't seem to get the ecu to recognise them.
I have saved new trim files using config sys in tools menu and checking the quickshiter and nudge with resume boxes and adjusting shift pressures , not all the way to the left , then loaded new files to ecu and no go. I have tried with power o2 box ticked also fce box ticked still nothing, tried kill ignition on upshift , nothing, even went as far as swapping the o2 plugs around , nothing!

Click to expand...

Are you setting the config flags directly on the ECU?

1. Open TuneBoyTrim
2. Wait for it to finish reading the ecu
3. If it asks if you want to replace the data on ecu, click no
4. Open the config and make sure the settings are correct

If you need to change settings, you would do it in that window. One you make a change and click save, you will see an acknowledgment in the bottom right of the window (config flags set). You do not have to reflash the ecu to change config flags.

To check that the strain gauge is working, go to the A/F Target tab and push up and down on the shifter. You will see the Air/Fuel ratio number change in the lower left.

I don't know anything about the Nudge buttons so I cannot help there. Might be a good idea to do one thing at a time.

Settings with strain gauge shifter:
"Power O2" not checked
"FCE" ?? I have it checked but have never got an answer as to what it does
"Quickshifter" checked
"Kill ignition on upshift" not checked (does nothing on the Panigale)

Hope that helps.

Thanks lardawge, made some progress with your help but still not there yet. Followed the steps as you posted them got the "config flags set" at bottom right of screen but no response on the A/F tp front or rear screen to shifter operation.

I suspect we have different versions of tuneboy trim ( mine is v 4.0 ) as my A/F ratio is displayed on the bottom right corner of the screen. Not sure if this makes any differences or not . I only got to spend a short time this morning on it before work so I will keep tinkering tonight and hopefully find the solution. Any further pointers from yourself or anyone else will be welcomed.

Trauma said:

There are a lot of stupid and simple people on this forum, so you are not alone

Click to expand...

Its good to know we are not alone

Ok just an update for anyone who is interested.
Firstly thanks again to lardawge , you got me headed in the right direction . Since then I have managed to get a hold of Wayne at Tuneboy a couple of times and he has been a great help. Turns out the place to check both shifter and nudge button function is not the A/F TP tab but on the target A/F screen which can be selected from the view menu or by mouse click on any cell of any map then type T.
After all of that I found the nudge buttons were working but shifter was not, turns out to be a faulty shifter , Wayne is sending a replacement.

Hope this is of help to someone!

crankman said:

Hi all,

I am looking for some help with the installation of the tuneboy quickshifter and the nudge buttons for cruise control. I had no issues installing the tuneboy software and flashing tunes to the ecu, cruise works as expected using the starter to engage and set, so I moved on to the nudge buttons and quickshifter but no matter what I try I can't seem to get the ecu to recognise them.
I have saved new trim files using config sys in tools menu and checking the quickshiter and nudge with resume boxes and adjusting shift pressures , not all the way to the left , then loaded new files to ecu and no go. I have tried with power o2 box ticked also fce box ticked still nothing, tried kill ignition on upshift , nothing, even went as far as swapping the o2 plugs around , nothing!

I know its probably something simple I have missed or stupid I have done but I am at the point where I would piss on a spark plug if it would do any good.

Any help will be appreciated and thanks in advance.

Click to expand...

Just as an fyi, it took me 6hrs of messing with the nudge buttons and QS to work. And I still have no idea why the software just started working. I have spoken to a few members who have verified the glitchiness of the software. For example, we've all lost our throttle and had to pull over and turn the bike off and on after 30 or so seconds. So you could be doing everything right and the software just isn't being accepted by the ecu.

Also, not sure if you know this, but you can send the nudge button and QS settings as commands and you do not need to reflash the ecu every time. You just click what you want and unplug. Turn the bike off, wait for the red alarm light, then click it on, and it should've taken.

There are commands, like removing the service light also, that do not require a reflash, then there are tunes and trims that obvi need the reflash. Just thought I'd share. I'm still learning since the Aussie's never respond to me anymore haha, sort of.

I wouldn't say that I lost the throttle, but let me describe...lol

I was sitting at a stop light, bike just dies. The "Engine !" light came on, bike wouldn't start. Waddled it over to a parking lot, still wouldn't start. Took off my helmet, gloves etc. and looked everything over. Bike started like nothing happened.

I had just gotten it back from the dealer, and re-flashed it to the stock v207 factory map prior to getting it to the dealer. It was there for a coolant leak, and they put about 4 miles on it testing it, made no mention of any issues.

I re-flashed it to my Akrapovic map and loaded 3 trim files into it and haven't had an issue since.

This is all good stuff. I updated my post with corrections and the addition of the config flag setting not needing a reflash.

I have been running tuneboy on my base for almost 2 years and have never had issues with my throttle or otherwise. I am installing it now on my R so will see if I fair as well this go-round.

I opted for the strain gauge and am still working through the setup process. I find that I don't want a blip from second to first at lower rpms. It revs to high and on a street bike is a little scary... Overall I like it though. The supplied map, however, is a different story. First to second there is a massive stumble. I am pretty sure this was not a custom tune for an R. Hopefully my local tuner can fix the problem since Wayne is MIA.

Sergio1199Panigale said:

Just as an fyi, it took me 6hrs of messing with the nudge buttons and QS to work. And I still have no idea why the software just started working. I have spoken to a few members who have verified the glitchiness of the software. For example, we've all lost our throttle and had to pull over and turn the bike off and on after 30 or so seconds. So you could be doing everything right and the software just isn't being accepted by the ecu.

Also, not sure if you know this, but you can send the nudge button and QS settings as commands and you do not need to reflash the ecu every time. You just click what you want and unplug. Turn the bike off, wait for the red alarm light, then click it on, and it should've taken.

There are commands, like removing the service light also, that do not require a reflash, then there are tunes and trims that obvi need the reflash. Just thought I'd share. I'm still learning since the Aussie's never respond to me anymore haha, sort of.

Click to expand...

Thanks for the fyi Sergio.

I have not found the software to be glitchy, other than the setting config sys menu where I found it would only let me make one change at a time otherwise changes would not take or at least not all would. Wayne is aware of this issue and is working on a fix. I have not experienced the throttle problem you speak of. Install of tune and cruise all went smoothly and all worked first time. I think the main problem for me is that the documentation could be a lot clearer than it is because as you have pointed out there are lots of things you can do with the software that are not explained clearly.
My problem in the end was a faulty strain gauge which is being replaced , so I ended up spending more time chasing a software or setup issue when it was actually a hardware one.
Yes it is difficult to get a response from Wayne, though I have managed to speak with him a couple of times of late and he has been super helpful and generous with his time, it seems he has too much on his plate, he does all the software development, dyno work and tech support, not sure why they don"t employ someone full time to do the tech support stuff even if they had to lift their pricing to cover it as its the thing that lets down a great product

lardawge said:

This is all good stuff. I updated my post with corrections and the addition of the config flag setting not needing a reflash.

I have been running tuneboy on my base for almost 2 years and have never had issues with my throttle or otherwise. I am installing it now on my R so will see if I fair as well this go-round.

I opted for the strain gauge and am still working through the setup process. I find that I don't want a blip from second to first at lower rpms. It revs to high and on a street bike is a little scary... Overall I like it though. The supplied map, however, is a different story. First to second there is a massive stumble. I am pretty sure this was not a custom tune for an R. Hopefully my local tuner can fix the problem since Wayne is MIA.

Click to expand...

I think that a trip to the dyno and a custom map for your bike is the only way to go . Also check that you have the latest tunes , should be v4._1 as that might solve your stumble 1st to 2nd , the relationship between throttle position and throttle butterfly position is different in neutral than it is in gears and between 1st & 2nd is you guessed it , neutral ! The latest maps address this I believe.
Also I think the Iphone app is not far away which should help with the strain gauge setup as you will be able to make adjustments and test on the fly or at least without having to break out the laptop.

So I got it running tonight (wish they had a mac version).

My only thing is, how do I know the trim file is working? I selected 899 panigale and slip on since I have the termis, but I no longer get the visual indication when starting the bike like I did prior. The upmap would show race during the start up, and this does not show it. Is that to be expected?

Thanks!

There is no indication like with the Termi up-map.

If you load more than one map, you can switch between them and get an indication that way, but I'm aware of no other way.

bp7178 said:

There is no indication like with the Termi up-map.

If you load more than one map, you can switch between them and get an indication that way, but I'm aware of no other way.

Click to expand...

Thank you very much.

So in essence, only the butt dyno is the way I can tell if it successfully loaded the trim?

if the cruise is activating (if you went that way) then fair chance the whole thing took, that's the first thing I checked to have some piece of mind.

ruley said:

if the cruise is activating (if you went that way) then fair chance the whole thing took, that's the first thing I checked to have some piece of mind.

Click to expand...

Interesting.

That makes sense. I think I just learned that it isn't exactly a carbon copy of the upmap trim, it is more hey I had a guy with an 899 and termi slip ons and this is the file we made for it type of trim. At least I think.

Either way, I will take it for a spin tomorrow morning and test it all out.

DynastySS said:

Interesting.

That makes sense. I think I just learned that it isn't exactly a carbon copy of the upmap trim, it is more hey I had a guy with an 899 and termi slip ons and this is the file we made for it type of trim. At least I think.

Either way, I will take it for a spin tomorrow morning and test it all out.

Click to expand...

that's exactly what the trims that they give you are....the end result of a bike he tuned in the workshop.