V4R Details?

Twistedracer · Nov 23, 2018

Kevin1199 said:
Dry clutch after all....... just got word

Lol yes Ducati specs aren't always accurate. Lots of cut and paste. That's why I take the let's wait and see it when we get it attitude.
I will still wait to see when Redmond actually gets on in to physically confirm this.

Kevin1199 · Nov 23, 2018

I’m confirming it for you

shakazulu12 · Nov 23, 2018

Project manager says they considered a dry clutch and tested it, but found no need for the production version.........

Interview with Stefano Strappazzon

Twistedracer · Nov 23, 2018

Kevin1199 said:
I'm confirming it for you

Just like you confirmed the wet clutch through research?
I will wait till someone actually gets one and posts a pic.

shakazulu12 · Nov 23, 2018

I wouldn't hold my breath. It flat out wouldn't pass Euro sound regulations with one.

Mutt1979 · Nov 23, 2018

Twistedracer said:
Just like you confirmed the wet clutch through research?
I’ll wait till someone actually gets one and posts a pic.

I was fortunate enough to be at a Ducati VIP event at the Birmingham NEC and they had a Q&A with (Marco Something / Steffano Strapazzon?!) a designer in the V4 project.

A chap asked the question and he said/confirmed the spy shots of the V4R with the dry clutch are legitimate. They are testing one as they may need to have that option when racing in 2019....... V4R 2.0 anyone?

Kevin1199 · Nov 24, 2018

Twistedracer said:
Just like you confirmed the wet clutch through research?
I will wait till someone actually gets one and posts a pic.

Coming from the BMW owner? Please after all the V4 hate you've thrown educate me

Vicati · Nov 24, 2018

I feel like dry clutch is going a step back wards.

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able duc · Nov 24, 2018

Kevin1199 said:
Coming from the BMW owner?

I own a BMW

Mutt1979 · Nov 24, 2018

Vicati said:
I feel like dry clutch is going a step back wards.

Yes and no. For me on the road, yes I agree. But racing no, they may need the extra edge to make sure all the power is being transmitted through to the track. Belt and braces, nice to have that option if required.

Twistedracer · Nov 24, 2018

Kevin1199 said:
Coming from the BMW owner? Please after all the V4 hate you've thrown educate me

Wow Kevin. Great comeback lol.
I guess I need to update my info so you can make a more educated put down. After I saw what the V4R looked like and decided that I still didn't care for the looks, I got rid of the BMW and picked up an R1M. I will wait patiently till Ducati makes the V4 look appealing to me. I skipped the 999 design, I can wait.

Notec · Nov 24, 2018

Damn, can’t we all just drink espressos and get along...

Macattack · Nov 24, 2018

shakazulu12 said:
Project manager says they considered a dry clutch and tested it, but found no need for the production version.........

Interview with Stefano Strappazzon

this interview also sheds light on the rev to 16500 and the reason it is the way it is . also explains a few other interesting things that make the engine seem wsbk purpose built . worth reading incase anyone missed it .

RD16RR · Nov 24, 2018

Twistedracer said:
Wow Kevin. Great comeback lol.
I guess I need to update my info so you can make a more educated put down. After I saw what the V4R looked like and decided that I still didn't care for the looks, I got rid of the BMW and picked up an R1M. I will wait patiently till Ducati makes the V4 look appealing to me. I skipped the 999 design, I can wait.

While certainly considered controversial (aka Ugly by some)...Function before Form...the 999 won more WSBK Champoinships than any other bike in WSBK history.....(Kawasaki may be catching up though)

I'd guess the Panigale family style will be here for a decade at least....

Twistedracer · Nov 24, 2018

RD16RR said:
While certainly considered controversial (aka Ugly by some)...Function before Form...the 999 won more WSBK Champoinships than any other bike in WSBK history.....(Kawasaki may be catching up though)

I'd guess the Panigale family style will be here for a decade at least....

Yes it did with some great riders too. Kawasaki has had a long drought and are definitely making up for it.
At my age, numbers just aren't as important anymore as my enjoyment of just looking at the bike and the smile they put on my face riding them. Hopefully in the not too distant future the style will change enough to where I say that I just need to have one again.
I did hold off on replacing the BMW till the R was introduced to see if there was enough change in the looks to make me want it.
If Ducati had brought it out with the same fuel tank as the racebike, I would have wanted it lol.

Kevin1199 · Nov 25, 2018

Twistedracer said:
Wow Kevin. Great comeback lol.
I guess I need to update my info so you can make a more educated put down. After I saw what the V4R looked like and decided that I still didn't care for the looks, I got rid of the BMW and picked up an R1M. I will wait patiently till Ducati makes the V4 look appealing to me. I skipped the 999 design, I can wait.

Now that was a great comeback. Good job, well done. I just relayed the information it was getting a dry clutch that was a last minute change. I could care less either way. I don't care what you ride, congrats on the r1 I still don't care.

AndreiD · Nov 26, 2018

McobraR said:
I guess that confirms the V4R doesnt have the dry clutch

At EICMA I spoke to a senior Ducati employee who told me the same thing. No dry clutch!

Vicati said:
I've heard up map is not required it's just to get more money out of customer, just get someone to do PROPER flash & tune and you can extract even more power.

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Highly doubt it's just that but I may be wrong. As far as I know there are lots of variables that are taken into account when changing the exhaust like pipe diameter, length and pipe all thickness, materials used, bends and restrictions, CAT presence, lambda sensors, resonators etc. Doing any swap mostly likely impacts the engine too, for the better or for the worse. There have been cases where massive loss of back-pressure resulted in a worse performing engine. Then there is the issue of CATs and lambda sensors that need to be "tuned" for the respective situation. This can impact advance timing, ignition and other aspects.

The Avidmoto said:
My dealer charges 11.5 of labor for the Akra install on the V4. That was a deal breaker for me on the Speciale.

Kevin1199 said:
Dry clutch after all....... just got word

I was told the complete opposite by a Ducati senior at EICMA. Can't vouch for this though.

Reason: Euro 4.

shakazulu12 said:
I wouldn't hold my breath. It flat out wouldn't pass Euro sound regulations with one.

I was told the same. That is the main reason why we have stopped seeing new-ish models with dry clutches.

Mutt1979 said:
I was fortunate enough to be at a Ducati VIP event at the Birmingham NEC and they had a Q&A with (Marco Something / Steffano Strapazzon?!) a designer in the V4 project.

A chap asked the question and he said/confirmed the spy shots of the V4R with the dry clutch are legitimate. They are testing one as they may need to have that option when racing in 2019....... V4R 2.0 anyone?

This may make sense as long as they keep it street legal. They have to steal something from other parts to keep it Euro 4 compliant.

V4R SL?

able duc said:
I own a BMW

So do I! What's this whole church thing setting down on this thread?

chillo · Nov 28, 2018

Seen the v4r spec has been updated this week to 'Hydraulically controlled slipper dry clutch'

Desmolvr · Nov 28, 2018

chillo said:
Seen the v4r spec has been updated this week to 'Hydraulically controlled slipper dry clutch'

FYI - At this time this is only listed on the International Site but I would assume it will filter down soon. Good Catch rattle, rattle, rattle.

AndreiD · Nov 29, 2018

chillo said:
Seen the v4r spec has been updated this week to 'Hydraulically controlled slipper dry clutch'

Wow! They actually pulled it off! This is great news!

How on Earth did they pull it off and make it Euro 4 compliant? Wonder if they had to do some compromises elsewhere...

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