What are everyones thoughts on the 'NEW' 2020 V4's
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I really like the look of the 2020 shark gill vents, and last time on the track my leg blew off my 2019 foot peg during a sloppy shift at 160 mph... so the wider fairing probably does help track performance. I feel certainly though that my 2019 V4 will provide plenty of fun and room for rider growth, and I'm happy as heck with it. Deliberating between V4 versions is a good problem to have. 
I'd like to thank Ducati for adding wings to the V4S as this makes my decision not to buy one very very easy. If I get a Ducati V4 I will find some dude that thought he could handle such a bike and realizes he doesn't have time to ride and he sells it to me cheap. It's that or I'm back on a Aprilia .
.@chillo- Great video. Like you, I see the R's value within competition...fast revving, top end, cooling capacity, wind protection, winglets, and many other improvements. I'm sure its sublime. Curious to hear your opinion if the bikes were relegated to street use only, what would your honest preference be? Would you not miss the additional displacement and torque curve of your V4S?
While I agree on many of your points, be happy with what you've got. Myself and many others do not prefer the update, so calling your V4 "dated" at this point is neither fair or accurate. In terms of rideable art, few preferred the 999 "update" over the 916; succession is not always progression.
Blasphemy! The RSV4 is a peach and a testament to the timelessness and capability of that platform...But I'd rather see change, for better or worse, than to see our superbike segment stagnate like that machines aesthetics. A quick glance at the progression of the 600cc market might change your mind.
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I’m sure you could just buy the 2020 fairing and put them on with the current v4 fairings to get you the same look if you so desire.
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I like the gills. Gives it a more aggressive look. I'm sure it helps with airflow n all that functional crap but i don't care about that. The wings on the other hand, I'm not crazy about. The v4s 2 posts up minus the wings.....killer!
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It might just be my bias since I bought an older model, but the gills to me make the bike look more generic, similar to the gills on the old s1000rr. The styling is following, not leading.
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No doubt about it, the V4R is definitely more aggressive.
I've been admiring MV Agusta's as of late, and they had me thinking back to my college years. Quite a few of my elective credits were art courses and design principles. By no stretch of the imagination does that qualify my perspectives, I'm just a putz with an motorcycle obsession...but I find these topics fascinating. I mention the MV's and some of my background because it show's just how differently people perceive the world they live in, in a good way. Its entirely subjective, as is art and motorcycle design preference.
Yet sometimes its difficult to relate to or understand opposing perspectives. When I look at a 1098/1198 and 1199/1299, I can see the body lines in the side fairing and radiator exhaust vents. I see a fluid, well thought out design. Conversely, the exhaust vents or "gills" of the V4R are lost on me, they simply seem out of place. The entire side fairing appears flat, lacking the depth of its predecessor.
I've been admiring MV Agusta's as of late, and they had me thinking back to my college years. Quite a few of my elective credits were art courses and design principles. By no stretch of the imagination does that qualify my perspectives, I'm just a putz with an motorcycle obsession...but I find these topics fascinating. I mention the MV's and some of my background because it show's just how differently people perceive the world they live in, in a good way. Its entirely subjective, as is art and motorcycle design preference.
Yet sometimes its difficult to relate to or understand opposing perspectives. When I look at a 1098/1198 and 1199/1299, I can see the body lines in the side fairing and radiator exhaust vents. I see a fluid, well thought out design. Conversely, the exhaust vents or "gills" of the V4R are lost on me, they simply seem out of place. The entire side fairing appears flat, lacking the depth of its predecessor.
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I dont see the relevance of the GP machine images in this context. All Ducati have done is slap the 2019 V4R fairings on the 2020 V4 and S models plus a few software tweaks and minor suspension changes. That is literally it.
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its mostly just styling cues when it comes to the street, wings? pretty much an affectation on a street bike. Width of fairings? Some relevance but again no one was complaining about the twins. Motogp is where all the trickle down is coming from and they dont build race bikes just to win on the track.
Truer words have never been spoken. Mid-cycle updates on a budget.
Nothing new we haven't already seen from the R. Minimized manufacturing expenses by consolidating the bodywork of the entire lineup, likely the same scenario regarding the front frame.
Huh? The only "race bikes" they've built for the street are the R models due to homologation requirements, no?
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Truer words have never been spoken. Mid-cycle updates on a budget.
Nothing new we haven't already seen from the R. Minimized manufacturing expenses by consolidating the bodywork of the entire lineup, likely the same scenario regarding the front frame.
Spot on Ashes. I think there are always going to be individuals who are lulled into the notion that this years model is somehow leagues ahead of last years iteration. In this instance it's not so much a leap as a hop in improvements. Totally agree regards manufacturing costs. One set of fairing moulds fits all, job done. The "flex" in the 2020 V4/V4S front frame is simply where they cut two bloody great holes in it, as per the R, so even more component commonality. I imagine the accountants in Bologna are pleased. Three models sourced from largely one parts bin.
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Seems as though people with 18/19 models are just trying to convince themselves why they are happy with what they have. Truth is they are all fantastic. Have an 18/19 and like the new look? Just purchase the new fairings. Easy.
The majority would prefer the new model over the old. It’s more aggressive looking, has an updated electronics package, and has inherited other features passed down from the R. It’s a better overall bike, regardless of whether you will benefit from the upgrades.
The majority would prefer the new model over the old. It’s more aggressive looking, has an updated electronics package, and has inherited other features passed down from the R. It’s a better overall bike, regardless of whether you will benefit from the upgrades.
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Funny, by far the biggest complaint over the last two years has been the silver colour of the V4's main frame. Hardly a critical issue but clearly a source of discontent for...well...pretty much everybody. The second-most-urgent mod, after replacing the rear fender, has been to slap on a pair of expensive carbon frame covers just to black them out. Drum roll...the frame on the 2020 appears to be black (or dark grey I think I saw in a journo's review). I expected cheering in the streets, coverage on the 7 o'clock news, grown men weeping with joy. But I suppose if you've already bought one the change is equally annoying. Silent approval it is then.
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You can also have the evo 2 software installed at the dealer so you can have a 2020 spec minus the frame easily.
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