Which Ducati 1199 do you plan on purchasing?

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Riding any of these bikes to the limit is impossible on the street. That's not the point of owning new technology. Experiencing and learning the function of the quick shift, the riding modes, the traction control are all exciting prospects to me. Also, what percentage of time is riding the bike? I enjoy looking at my bikes while in my viewing, man space area as a piece of art almost as much as riding. I'm finding on this and other Ducati forum sites that the owners of the 1098 and 1198's are more prone to not liking the 1199. They love their bikes and may be somewhat biased since the Panigale is rendering the previous models obsolete.
 
I am going to order an 1199 S with ABS. Does anyone here know the seat height?
 
Already put my deposit on the Tri, will be here in April.
 
I think I will go with the standard 1198. Not sure about ABS tho. I started on an 848 and after 5000 miles moved on to an 1198. Having the traction control on the standard 1199 is already an improvement for me since my 1198 is an 2009. I only have 2 seasons of riding under my belt so at the risk of sounding naive, what are the situations that ABS will be worth adding on? I assume it's just like a car when you make sudden stops?

Given my riding ability and skill I think the standard will suit me just fine, I just wish it came with the LED lights too :/
 
JPM said:
I think I will go with the standard 1198. Not sure about ABS tho. I started on an 848 and after 5000 miles moved on to an 1198. Having the traction control on the standard 1199 is already an improvement for me since my 1198 is an 2009. I only have 2 seasons of riding under my belt so at the risk of sounding naive, what are the situations that ABS will be worth adding on? I assume it's just like a car when you make sudden stops?

Given my riding ability and skill I think the standard will suit me just fine, I just wish it came with the LED lights too :/
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Riding on the street ABS can save your bacon in emergency situations or in low traction areas or environments.

I think it's probably an important addition for someone with two seasons of riding experience moving to a bike that ranks among the worlds most powerful.
 
flynbulldog said:
Riding on the street ABS can save your bacon in emergency situations or in low traction areas or environments.

I think it's probably an important addition for someone with two seasons of riding experience moving to a bike that ranks among the worlds most powerful.
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Thanks for the info regarding ABS. Yes I've only once felt the back end come loose and it was pretty scary. I haven't done any track days and am still building up riding experience. I have 7500 riding miles between the 848 and 1198 so yes I agree I could benefit from as much safety equipment as possible.

I really hope they have at least one 1199 at the International Motorcycle Show this weekend.
 
Right now Im going with the base 1199 but that may change in the next few months. I dont think you can go wrong with any of the models tho:D
 
Am finally switching to Ducati as i always said i would. Already put a deposit on the 1199S ABS. Now to sell this R1 i have. i cant wait
 
herby22 said:
Riding any of these bikes to the limit is impossible on the street. That's not the point of owning new technology. Experiencing and learning the function of the quick shift, the riding modes, the traction control are all exciting prospects to me. Also, what percentage of time is riding the bike? I enjoy looking at my bikes while in my viewing, man space area as a piece of art almost as much as riding. I'm finding on this and other Ducati forum sites that the owners of the 1098 and 1198's are more prone to not liking the 1199. They love their bikes and may be somewhat biased since the Panigale is rendering the previous models obsolete.
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I think its more a case of the financial impact the new bike will have on resale values of 1098/1198s, which will make trading up an expensive exercise. At almost £20,000 for an S ABS model in the UK, that's almost £6,000 more than the S models were traditionally priced at for many years, with the R usually retailing for around £20K. The huge increase in prices, places the S firmly into R pricing territory. With a say two year old 1198SP fetching around 12,000, that 2/3rds as much again you need to find, to bridge the gap needed to meet the S asking price. I think a lot of people will end with the base model and add components as and when, despite the fact that initial bikes entering the UK are set to be predominantly S models. These first few are allocated to the must have brigade. Once they are sold, it will harder for Ducati to shift the more expensive options in future, given the fall in the 1098/1198 values, for those wishing to move on to the 1199 series.
 
flynbulldog said:
I haven't made up mind yet which version I want.

My bike will do track duty so ABS is out. The ABS on my MTS1200 masks much of the braking feel and ability to manually finesse the brakes when riding aggressively.
They work fine for everyday riding but the difference between the quality of the brakes on my Multi and either the 1098 or streetfighter is night and day.

Who knows, I'm sure the ABS on the 1199 will be better than the system on the MTS but, after looking at all the lines and the control box I just don't think I want that complexity on a bike I'm taking to the track. And it's very clear that you cannot have the best possible direct feel with 3 to 5 times the amount of brake hoses, junctions, and control valves.

If I were only planning to ride the bike on public roads and I was concerned about emergency situations I'd probably opt for the ABS.

So, that puts the Tricolore out of the running for me.

I took a look at the photos of the corse bike from Milan and noticed that it has Ohlins but it doesn't have DES.


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You can clearly see that there are no wires going to the ohlins on this bike...

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I wonder if there will be a retrofit kit to remove the DES for racing? The photo looks like they've removed the electronic adjusters from the OE shock and just replaced them with manual adjuster caps.

If there is such a kit available for both front and rear I'll probably buy the S model. I'm not a huge fan of the tri-Y wheels but It's no deal-breaker.

Otherwise I may opt for the base and with the money I save I'll replace the suspension and grab a set of Marchesini forged alloy wheels or maybe a set of BST's.
I may go over the price of the S to do this but that's ok.

So, I'm still on the fence and I need to learn more before I decide on which bike is right for me.
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You make a great point about the feel because of the extra route that the fluid has to travel... I will have to think more about this.
 
flynbulldog said:
Well, Don't listen to me - I didn't :rolleyes: I put a deposit on a tricolore ;)
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Oh! Well, I'm not at baller status like you:p

I'm fairly comfortable with the back moving about but the front dancing around freaks me out! I'm looking to improve and I don't want the ABS hindering that. I told my self I can just turn it off but did not consider the ABS component it self interfering with feel.
 
Speaking from someone who has always thought the base model is the best bang for the buck in the Ducati Superbike family, I own a base 998 and 1198, my preference is actually the 1199S without ABS. For me the Ohlins, electronic adjustment, LED lights, and difference wheels warrant the extra price. As previously stated I think the Ohlins will definitely offer a more refined ride in real world use and for me that's worth it.
 
Have had a deposit down for one for over 12 months. Now decision time, finances say its the base, heart says its the S so the 1098 will be going and an 1199 S is on its way. Absolutely love my 1098 so will be a very sad day next spring, just hope the 1199 lives up to the hype and has the character and involvement of the 1098.
 
To be Ohlins or not to be Ohlins

Just to add to the 'Ohlins or not' debate. I decided to go for the Multistrada S mainly because of the Ohlins more than the riding modes/fancy electronics etc. . . I love every aspect of the MS, but the thing I like most are the Ohlins. The ride is simply sublime - and I would challenge any rider not to feel the difference vs. the standard bike . Pirelli used to say 'Power is nothing without control' and nothing could be more true than with motorcycle suspension. It also makes the bike quick where you would back off with other suspension. If I could only take one upgrade on any bike it would be Ohlins.
 
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