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You see? This is why Liberals are never believed by people who think. You instantly start with the vitriolic hyperbole, instead of reading what is there and actually digesting what it shows. You certainly didn't read the entire PDF. And calling me a dolt just reinforces your lack of validity, AND your poor manners and need to denigrate everyone who disagrees with you. You've lost this one. Not because you out-thought me or produced PROOF of your position, but because instead of bringing information, you bring hate mongering, and dare I say it name-calling and insult, which is what you have done from the beginning. It's all you have, because your narrative is demonstrably incorrect and fallacious. You're done.

If you can't cheat, lie, insult, or destroy a persons reputation, you have nothing. You've proven our point. Thank you for your help.
 
Sheikh said:
Extort is such an inaccurate word. how about we describe that properly 'Make sure all the FRAUDULENT votes are not counted' sounds much better, like the women in Dekalb county putting ballots through the counter over and over again for 4-5 hours when no one was there to see it except the cameras they didn't know were there, or the suitcases full of ballots hidden under tables and table clothes suddenly pulled out at 3 a.m. to be counted. Remember those? Total voter fraud. Do not count the fraudulent votes and Trump suddenly wins by 2-3%. Amazing how that works. We all saw it happen. Why do you deny it?
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“You saw it happen.”
You need to pedal your Bull .... someplace else. I would suggest one of the knuckle dragging groups you’ll find hiding under one of your Mom’s bed sheets. You’re referring to the garbage in the movie 2000 Mules. It was produced by True the Vote. It took the Georgia election board 3 years to finally drag them into Court and prove the crap you refer to. The Georgia Court case is Civil Action No. 2023CV382520. It takes about 5 seconds to Google it. When True the Vote was finally forced to prove their lies, they had to admit that they had no proof for any of it. But people like you keep spreading the lies.
Here’s the bottom line. Trump is a spoiled rich bully who gets his thrill belittling poor people who through no fault of their own were born into unimaginable circumstances. They endure inhuman cruelty simply because they are trying to support themselves. I would do the same if in their situation. You’ve told the group that you endorse these ideals. I don’t, and never will. I don’t need MSNBC or FOX news to tell me the difference between right and wrong.
Like I said, peddle your lies somewhere else, that dog won’t hunt here.
 
VYRUS said:
“You saw it happen.”
You need to pedal your Bull .... someplace else. I would suggest one of the knuckle dragging groups you’ll find hiding under one of your Mom’s bed sheets. You’re referring to the garbage in the movie 2000 Mules. It was produced by True the Vote. It took the Georgia election board 3 years to finally drag them into Court and prove the crap you refer to. The Georgia Court case is Civil Action No. 2023CV382520. It takes about 5 seconds to Google it. When True the Vote was finally forced to prove their lies, they had to admit that they had no proof for any of it. But people like you keep spreading the lies.
Here’s the bottom line. Trump is a spoiled rich bully who gets his thrill belittling poor people who through no fault of their own were born into unimaginable circumstances. They endure inhuman cruelty simply because they are trying to support themselves. I would do the same if in their situation. You’ve told the group that you endorse these ideals. I don’t, and never will. I don’t need MSNBC or FOX news to tell me the difference between right and wrong.
Like I said, peddle your lies somewhere else, that dog won’t hunt here.
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My my my. . .so angry and nasty. If you don't like the results of the election, then change how the people you are voting for think and do things. I never said I approved of Trump or anyone else, so I don't understand where you are getting all this information about how I supposedly think. I'm not lying, just pointing out certain unpleasant facts that Liberals just cannot seem to either comprehend or refute without openly lying about it or casting aspersions on everyone who disagrees with them. As usual you have proven that you don't want to discuss things, you just want to slander and deny.

Which is why the Leftists always lose. Kamala was a horrible candidate, which is why she lost so badly. Trump is a mediocre candidate who has a popular cult-like following, which is why he won. Neither side has a monopoly on better ideas, and the Deep state really runs the Country anyway. In the end it's not going to matter much except maybe some laws will be followed for a change and maybe a lot of corrupt people will be out of a job. Get off your pedestal and come back to earth. Life goes on. A Wise person will wait and see what actually happens... a fool will denigrate and accuse and wring his hands and cry long before things play out. Which are you?

I'm going to invest in a popcorn machine and buy a whole lot of liquid refreshments. The next 4 years is going to be quite interesting, whether YOU like it or not. And as for 2028? There are going to be a lot of laws passed and Election procedural changes done across the Country. Cheating is going to increasingly become more difficult and people are watching now. They are still trying to cheat for the Senate Race in Pennsylvania right now, which shows just how determined some people are and how greedily they seek after power and control. That should worry EVERYONE. But, God willing, we'll get ahold of those ne'er do wells and sycophants, regain some more freedom, get the 1st and 2nd amendments better protected and grow wiser and more aware about just how filthy some political organizations actually are.

Stop trying to win something that is already lost. That's a fools errand.

And Fwiw.. I don't watch main stream TV, I don't follow Fox and certainly not CNN or MSNBC, I've been around for 66 years, and I've seen way too many people acting like you guys in here over something that they have no control over. I know what's going on, seen it too many times. The whining and crying and lambasting remind me of 8 year olds. I'm sure you can do better.
 
Sheikh said:
My my my. . .so angry and nasty. If you don't like the results of the election, then change how the people you are voting for think and do things. I never said I approved of Trump or anyone else, so I don't understand where you are getting all this information about how I supposedly think. I'm not lying, just pointing out certain unpleasant facts that Liberals just cannot seem to either comprehend or refute without openly lying about it or casting aspersions on everyone who disagrees with them. As usual you have proven that you don't want to discuss things, you just want to slander and deny.

Which is why the Leftists always lose. Kamala was a horrible candidate, which is why she lost so badly. Trump is a mediocre candidate who has a popular cult-like following, which is why he won. Neither side has a monopoly on better ideas, and the Deep state really runs the Country anyway. In the end it's not going to matter much except maybe some laws will be followed for a change and maybe a lot of corrupt people will be out of a job. Get off your pedestal and come back to earth. Life goes on. A Wise person will wait and see what actually happens... a fool will denigrate and accuse and wring his hands and cry long before things play out. Which are you?

I'm going to invest in a popcorn machine and buy a whole lot of liquid refreshments. The next 4 years is going to be quite interesting, whether YOU like it or not. And as for 2028? There are going to be a lot of laws passed and Election procedural changes done across the Country. Cheating is going to increasingly become more difficult and people are watching now. They are still trying to cheat for the Senate Race in Pennsylvania right now, which shows just how determined some people are and how greedily they seek after power and control. That should worry EVERYONE. But, God willing, we'll get ahold of those ne'er do wells and sycophants, regain some more freedom, get the 1st and 2nd amendments better protected and grow wiser and more aware about just how filthy some political organizations actually are.

Stop trying to win something that is already lost. That's a fools errand.

And Fwiw.. I don't watch main stream TV, I don't follow Fox and certainly not CNN or MSNBC, I've been around for 66 years, and I've seen way too many people acting like you guys in here over something that they have no control over. I know what's going on, seen it too many times. The whining and crying and lambasting remind me of 8 year olds. I'm sure you can do better.
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Conspiracy much? Someone listens to too much Joe Rogan.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Conspiracy much? Someone listens to too much Joe Rogan.
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See?? You just don't get it. I don't listen to other people. I do my own research and look at all sides of an issue. The fact that you accuse me of being like yourself shows how inadequate (nonexistent) your entire thinking process is.

Cage door locked again.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Here’s the data. You anal-yze it.

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Yeah, it shows what's OBVIOUS. The Country is on the Wrong Track because of the CURRENT administration.. NOT the incoming one. Like DUH Scooby Doo. Literally every metric favors Trump as well as getting rid of the Biden associated people.

The polls said the same thing before the election. Give it 6 months and you'll be eating your words because all those numbers will change. Did you even THINK before you thought about posting that??
 
Nice cognitive bias but incorrect interpretation. Good try though.

It means that Trump voters are easily manipulated. Biden is, as far as I know, still the president and Trump voters’ perception of the vote and economy were bad before the election and good after it. Nothing has changed except the outcome of the election. Trump voters won so they have rose tinted glasses. Same thing happens when it comes to other elections and this mythical migrant train.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Nice cognitive bias but incorrect interpretation. Good try though.

It means that Trump voters are easily manipulated. Biden is, as far as I know, still the president and Trump voters’ perception of the vote and economy were bad before the election and good after it. Nothing has changed except the outcome of the election. Trump voters won so they have rose tinted glasses. Same thing happens when it comes to other elections and this mythical migrant train.
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Are you even from the US? Things are already changing because people aren’t as scared for the future. The stock market always surges when the Pubs are coming into power because confidence increases because people know things will get better - before the new president has even taken office. Putin is already slowing down the war on Ukraine because he knows Trump is going for place Real sanctions on him. Biden shut down our oil production and now we buy more oil from Russia. Putin takes the profits from that to fund his war on Ukraine. He”s murdering Ukrainians so he can steal their oil and then sell it to us. That means he is evil and all the people that support him. Do you really not know how the world is working? This is not a child’s thing or a topic for more gas lighting on the nightly news. People are dying because of your people’s insistent bull .....

Drugs flooding into the country.
Massive gangs taking up residence in all the major cities.
Am economy so taxed with inflation millions of people are simple giving up hope for their entire lives, all to put untold billions into the pockets of Covid big pharma.
The list is practically endless. That you support these things so wholeheartedly says an unfortunate amount about you.
 
RocketSFV4 said:
Are you even from the US? Things are already changing because people aren’t as scared for the future. The stock market always surges when the Pubs are coming into power because confidence increases because people know things will get better - before the new president has even taken office. Putin is already slowing down the war on Ukraine because he knows Trump is going for place Real sanctions on him. Biden shut down our oil production and now we buy more oil from Russia. Putin takes the profits from that to fund his war on Ukraine. He”s murdering Ukrainians so he can steal their oil and then sell it to us. That means he is evil and all the people that support him. Do you really not know how the world is working? This is not a child’s thing or a topic for more gas lighting on the nightly news. People are dying because of your people’s insistent bull .....

Drugs flooding into the country.
Massive gangs taking up residence in all the major cities.
Am economy so taxed with inflation millions of people are simple giving up hope for their entire lives, all to put untold billions into the pockets of Covid big pharma.
The list is practically endless. That you support these things so wholeheartedly says an unfortunate amount about you.
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Are you from the US? You sound like a Russian bot or an old crank from Florida watching too much Fox News/OAN.

- Stock market has been up before the election and will keep going up (unless Trump craters the economy with his across the board tariffs). I want the stock market to go up under Dems or Repubs
- Also, the war in Ukraine is not slowing down, it’s speeding up. Putin is trying to put in a last dash effort to secure as much land up to the Dnipro as possible to leverage negotiations
- I’m not worried about drugs or immigrants flooding the country. Could’ve been mitigated by Lankford’s immigration reform bill in 2023 but Trump cratered it for his own political gain
- Inflation is a result of Trump’s poor management of COVID. Less people could’ve died with less misinformation and him dragging his feet. I think you forget that Trump sent out stimulus checks for COVID which caused all this inflation. His name is on the check. But inflation was inevitable and was present worldwide due to the pandemic. The thing is, Biden brought down inflation faster than any other country
- I live in a major city but I don’t see any massive gangs taking over it. Though, I think the Bloods or Crips could run a better city
 
spooky said:
Crazy. Usually you don’t own an asset when you have a debt against it, so who owns the US? 😉
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Whoever holds our debt. China, IMF, Japan, name a country that has invested in US Bonds...or through the magic of internal government banking, we owe it to ourselves and will never pay it back.
 
Sheikh said:
The revolution of 2014 that deposed Viktor Yanukovych led to usurpation of powers and a CIA sponsored coup against his regime, which ultimately led to the election of the little comedian Zelensky. Neo-Nazi's and Fascists are/were the dominant controlling force in his government and have continued oppression/genocide/war against the ethnic Russian population since 2014.
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Neo-Nazis and Fascists… :rolleyes: 🤣

That sounds like a repetition of Putin’s version of events in the Tucker Carlson ‘interview’.

I only know what my family members and their friends say about that particular part of history (they live / lived in Eastern Ukraine). It doesn’t match your version, but what would they know, right?

So I’m not sure where you get your facts from but my understanding comes from people who lived through it.
Sheikh said:
If the US leaves, the wars stop. simple as that.
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True, aside from the fact that they’ll go back to fighting each other. You’ve seen how things are in South Africa these days? Zimbabwe? Those places have done great running things for themselves.
 
spooky said:
Neo-Nazis and Fascists… :rolleyes: 🤣

That sounds like a repetition of Putin’s version of events in the Tucker Carlson ‘interview’.

I only know what my family members and their friends say about that particular part of history (they live / lived in Eastern Ukraine). It doesn’t match your version, but what would they know, right?

So I’m not sure where you get your facts from but my understanding comes from people who lived through it.

True, aside from the fact that they’ll go back to fighting each other. You’ve seen how things are in South Africa these days? Zimbabwe? Those places have done great running things for themselves.
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Well, I got all my information, at the time things happened, from a different point of view. Current histories that I read show a very white-washed story of what really occured. It's kind of like what happened in Bosnia. People see certain things because it's all they have access to. I have friends in my area who left Bosnia during that time, though they still maintain contact with relatives. The husband goes back every year for 3-4 months to be with his Mother and family. They speak Russian in their home, if that tells you anything, and Selma, their daughter, rides with me and the guys. She has a gsxr600. Selma is also a Cop.

As for the Middle East descending into chaos if the Western countries pull out, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. Their culture goes back almost 4000 years and they've become 'comfortable' with living together. It's only when outside influences crop up and start funding 'opposition forces' that things go haywire. Give them a chance i think they will surprise you. Even Iran and Saudi Arabia have come to terms lately. I saw that coming about 4-5 years ago, it just had to happen, but most of the World was taken by surprise.

You'll never know if you never give them the chance. An FBI SA I'm friendly with once told me the ME countries were about 2 generations behind the West in terms of their Social situation. Looking back 40-50 years ago, to my Youth, I'm thinking that might actually be a GOOD thing. We've already made all the stupid mistakes. I'm sure they were watching and saying NO WAY.
 

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