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Everyone does realize if Trumps tariff plan goes through, Ducatis will be 10-20% more expensive than they already are??? I mean we're complaining that the 25 V4S is expensive. With Trump's tariffs, that $34k bike will be $39k. It's not just new bikes but also any part needed for maintenance. That Motul 300V, 10-20% more. Tires, 10-20% more. Filters, 10-20% more.

You can thank @Sheikh and @RocketSFV4 and anyone else that voted for Trump for the higher prices.

Not only will it crater the US economy, it'll also crater European economies.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...impacts-of-trumps-tariff-proposals-on-europe/
 
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SuperDomestique said:
Everyone does realize if Trumps tariff plan goes through, Ducatis will be 10-20% more expensive than they already are??? I mean we're complaining that the 25 V4S is expensive. With Trump's tariffs, that $34k bike will be $39k. It's not just new bikes but also any part needed for maintenance. That Motul 300V, 10-20% more. Tires, 10-20% more. Filters, 10-20% more.

You can thank @Sheikh and @RocketSFV4 and anyone else that voted for Trump for the higher prices.

Not only will it crater the US economy, it'll also crater European economies.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...impacts-of-trumps-tariff-proposals-on-europe/
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No one is buying what you're selling.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Everyone does realize if Trumps tariff plan goes through, Ducatis will be 10-20% more expensive than they already are??? I mean we're complaining that the 25 V4S is expensive. With Trump's tariffs, that $34k bike will be $39k. It's not just new bikes but also any part needed for maintenance. That Motul 300V, 10-20% more. Tires, 10-20% more. Filters, 10-20% more.

You can thank @Sheikh and @RocketSFV4 and anyone else that voted for Trump for the higher prices.

Not only will it crater the US economy, it'll also crater European economies.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminsti...impacts-of-trumps-tariff-proposals-on-europe/
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Thats good to be honest. Ride your Harley and be quiet
 
this is a joke

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panibadboy said:
Thats good to be honest. Ride your fuсking Harley and be quiet
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Why do you pay attention to him? All he's doing is spewing Dem talking points, gaslighting, fear mongering or outright lying to you. I wonder if he has blue hair and a nose ring, or has been properly transitioned yet. Just put him on ignore, he's not worth it.

As for the Hunter pardon fiasco... please tell me you saw that coming about 2 years ago. There's no way he was going to rot in prison or be forced to testify against dear old dad.
 
Sheikh said:
Why do you pay attention to him? All he's doing is spewing Dem talking points, gaslighting, fear mongering or outright lying to you. I wonder if he has blue hair and a nose ring, or has been properly transitioned yet. Just put him on ignore, he's not worth it.

As for the Hunter pardon fiasco... please tell me you saw that coming about 2 years ago. There's no way he was going to rot in prison or be forced to testify against dear old dad.
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How is this a Dem talking point? Your boy Musk warned of economic hardship especially of the middle class.

Sounds like you’re spewing GOP talking points. Conservatives are always the hypocrites
 
Sheikh said:
And if the Ukrainian forces had not been shelling and making war upon the indigenous Russian speaking population of those regions for 7-8 years would this have ever happened? Go back to the root cause. it would have been so easy to avoid all of this. So easy to go for a Truce and make peace in February-May of 2022, so easy to just get along. The Azov contingents and their allies pushed when they should have settled. This won't end until they do. I don't like it, but in the brutal calculus of War, someone has to be defeated for a semblance of Order to come out of it. you stop Wars by putting down the weapons. The US and UK just upped the ante with Storm Shadows and Atacms hitting inside Russia. What's next?
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I’m not trying to be a smart ass. Seriously, you need to get professional help. As one human to another, please get some help.
I’m not going to continue commenting or follow this thread anymore. It’s not healthy for anyone. Stick to talking about your motorcycle. You’ll feel better. We can argue about the best oil. That’s always good for getting everyone all riled up.
 
The thing is this is the Lounge where this kind of controversial stuff should be discussed and no one should get butt hurt over what someone says. Everyone makes fun of everyone and it’s just a battle of wits. No one wins. Don’t take it so seriously. It’s a forum fer chrissakes… The fact that people are blocking people for things they disagree with is so petulant. But I shouldn’t expect anything better from an entitled Boomer like Sheikh
 
VYRUS said:
I’m not trying to be a smart ass. Seriously, you need to get professional help. As one human to another, please get some help.
I’m not going to continue commenting or follow this thread anymore. It’s not healthy for anyone. Stick to talking about your motorcycle. You’ll feel better. We can argue about the best oil. That’s always good for getting everyone all riled up.
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Ta Ta. You haven't been exactly a nice person. I won't miss your vitriole.
 
I seriously doubt it. And after reading what he said about me, I REALLY doubt it. I mean REALLY. Petulant? MOI??? I think not.

There's a big difference between controversial and malicious insult.
 
VYRUS said:
I’m not trying to be a smart ass. Seriously, you need to get professional help. As one human to another, please get some help.
I’m not going to continue commenting or follow this thread anymore. It’s not healthy for anyone. Stick to talking about your motorcycle. You’ll feel better. We can argue about the best oil. That’s always good for getting everyone all riled up.
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he is totally right about ukraine tho. you country is waging a proxy war with human lifes from a completely different country and you put your head in the sand asking not to talk about it.
pretty sure people asked not to talk about hunter biden laptop in past too, see where it got us.
 
panibadboy said:
he is totally right about ukraine tho. you country is waging a proxy war with human lifes from a completely different country and you put your head in the sand asking not to talk about it.
pretty sure people asked not to talk about hunter biden laptop in past too, see where it got us.
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I don’t hear you having any problems with North Korea or China’s involvement
 
SuperDomestique said:
I don’t hear you having any problems with North Korea or China’s involvement
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who cares about consequences

the whole thing started due to uncontrolled NATO expansion in aggressive manner and immediately turned into a proxy war

once it is a war any means to win are fine

but I guess whats not fine is that while an average fat american could continue enjoy buying iPhones every year and eat fast food, US admin forced Ukraine to keep enlisting people to fight this war. And now old man is asking to lower enlisting age to 18. Such a nonsese
 
These political discussions always go nowhere but I will make a apolitical comment since I have no skin in the game on either side of the divide and I dont care who runs the US but Trump is pretty much a tough talking blowhard, perhaps the biggest one in American history. Sooner or later, he will stumble and bluster his way into a military disaster that will make George W look like Julius Caesar
 
Paul G said:
These political discussions always go nowhere but I will make a apolitical comment since I have no skin in the game on either side of the divide and I dont care who runs the US but Trump is pretty much a tough talking blowhard, perhaps the biggest one in American history. Sooner or later, he will stumble and bluster his way into a military disaster that will make George W look like Julius Caesar
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arent you from england? you cant say anything political or you will end up in jail for 3 years dont you ?
 
Paul G said:
These political discussions always go nowhere but I will make a apolitical comment since I have no skin in the game on either side of the divide and I dont care who runs the US but Trump is pretty much a tough talking blowhard, perhaps the biggest one in American history. Sooner or later, he will stumble and bluster his way into a military disaster that will make George W look like Julius Caesar
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And that will make you very happy, Right? Kinda sad that your happiness depends on someone failing instead of succeeding. Trump is going to get that war over with very quickly. That's his intention, and I say 'go for it'. I hope he succeeds, I hope he mends relations with everyone involved, I hope the corrupt war mongers and neocons are put in prison forever and I hope everyone comes out of this with at least the opportunity to have a better, more peaceful life. As for Putin and Russia, they are untouchable. Time to grow up and deal with that fact. NATO and the West have thrown everything short of a Nuclear bomb at them and they have shrugged it off and come back stronger and more capable. You have to admire that. We should be Allies, not enemies. People should listen to eachother and quit trying to destroy the world just for petty revenge.

Have you ever wondered why the Brits hate the Russians so much? Before WW1 they were pretty good friends. Rivals, but friends. The Commies killed the Romanov family, who were cousins of the House of Windsor, and Modern Russia is the heir to the USSR's malign focus by the British Royals. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
 

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