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Paul G said:
These political discussions always go nowhere but I will make a apolitical comment since I have no skin in the game on either side of the divide and I dont care who runs the US but Trump is pretty much a tough talking blowhard, perhaps the biggest one in American history. Sooner or later, he will stumble and bluster his way into a military disaster that will make George W look like Julius Caesar
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arent you from england? you cant say anything political or you will end up in jail for 3 years dont you ?
 
Paul G said:
These political discussions always go nowhere but I will make a apolitical comment since I have no skin in the game on either side of the divide and I dont care who runs the US but Trump is pretty much a tough talking blowhard, perhaps the biggest one in American history. Sooner or later, he will stumble and bluster his way into a military disaster that will make George W look like Julius Caesar
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And that will make you very happy, Right? Kinda sad that your happiness depends on someone failing instead of succeeding. Trump is going to get that war over with very quickly. That's his intention, and I say 'go for it'. I hope he succeeds, I hope he mends relations with everyone involved, I hope the corrupt war mongers and neocons are put in prison forever and I hope everyone comes out of this with at least the opportunity to have a better, more peaceful life. As for Putin and Russia, they are untouchable. Time to grow up and deal with that fact. NATO and the West have thrown everything short of a Nuclear bomb at them and they have shrugged it off and come back stronger and more capable. You have to admire that. We should be Allies, not enemies. People should listen to eachother and quit trying to destroy the world just for petty revenge.

Have you ever wondered why the Brits hate the Russians so much? Before WW1 they were pretty good friends. Rivals, but friends. The Commies killed the Romanov family, who were cousins of the House of Windsor, and Modern Russia is the heir to the USSR's malign focus by the British Royals. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
 
Sheikh said:
And that will make you very happy, Right? Kinda sad that your happiness depends on someone failing instead of succeeding. Trump is going to get that war over with very quickly. That's his intention, and I say 'go for it'. I hope he succeeds, I hope he mends relations with everyone involved, I hope the corrupt war mongers and neocons are put in prison forever and I hope everyone comes out of this with at least the opportunity to have a better, more peaceful life. As for Putin and Russia, they are untouchable. Time to grow up and deal with that fact. NATO and the West have thrown everything short of a Nuclear bomb at them and they have shrugged it off and come back stronger and more capable. You have to admire that. We should be Allies, not enemies. People should listen to eachother and quit trying to destroy the world just for petty revenge.

Have you ever wondered why the Brits hate the Russians so much? Before WW1 they were pretty good friends. Rivals, but friends. The Commies killed the Romanov family, who were cousins of the House of Windsor, and Modern Russia is the heir to the USSR's malign focus by the British Royals. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
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I wish Trump every success in ending the war in UKR, his only option is to stop the funding and blame Biden because there is no military solution and he has precisely zero to bargain with. People are under the illusion that some kind of deal can be worked out, there will be no deal that isnt 100% favourable to the Russians because they militarily have the upper hand, unless of course the US decides to commit suicide by nukes. That is the risk because the warmongers are insane. RFK called it out;

 
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Paul G said:
I wish Trump every success in ending the war in UKR, his only option is to stop the funding and blame Biden because there is no military solution and he has precisely zero to bargain with. People are under the illusion that some kind of deal can be worked out, there will be no deal that isnt 100% favourable to the Russians because they militarily have the upper hand, unless of course the US decides to commit suicide by nukes. That is the risk because the warmongers are insane. RFK called it out;

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Russians repeatedly tried to settle a war that they started…
 
He has a lot more options than the ones you listed. Putin and Russia are not going to back down on their demand for demilitarization of Ukraine, Neutrality and no NATO or EU membership, stamping out of Fascist/Nazi elements in the country, and a limitation on how much Foreign 'intervention' is allowed into the country. He's not going to get a Yes on all of that. it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
 
Sheikh said:
He has a lot more options than the ones you listed. Putin and Russia are not going to back down on their demand for demilitarization of Ukraine, Neutrality and no NATO or EU membership, stamping out of Fascist/Nazi elements in the country, and a limitation on how much Foreign 'intervention' is allowed into the country. He's not going to get a Yes on all of that. it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
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You do realize that Ukraine is a sovereign state??? Ukraine is the one being attacked. Ukraine alone should be able to decide their own fate. Acquiescing to Putin’s demands is the biggest mistake anyone could make. This is like Hitler and Czechoslovakia
 
Paul G said:
I have not seen any credible reports they have tried to settle
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They haven't. After the rejection of a Deal in 2022 they just dug in and said 'Here are our terms. Accept or die" and pretty much it's been a bunch of dying ever since. The terms are still on the table. Zelensky (and his UK/USA/German masters) is just too unwise to accept.
 
SuperDomestique said:
You do realize that Ukraine is a sovereign state??? Ukraine is the one being attacked. Ukraine alone should be able to decide their own fate. Acquiescing to Putin’s demands is the biggest mistake anyone could make. This is like Hitler and Czechoslovakia
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Invading sovereign states has become a norm since Powell found WMD in Iraq and used fake pretext to not only invade but also overthrow the government. Putin will win this war, and people will have to just deal with it.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Ukraine alone should be able to decide their own fate.
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In that case, they should NOT be asking for hundreds of Billions in Military Aid (bribes), Hundreds of Billions in actual weaponry, Billions in Training, or for any OTHER Government to come to their Aid, send troops, speak on their behalf, or otherwise put it's thumb on the scales in this conflict.

Ukraine is a puppet of the USA (Biden's cash cow) UK and NATO. They are HARDLY acting alone to decide their fate. There is NOTHING 'Sovereign' about Ukraine.
 
Sheikh said:
In that case, they should NOT be asking for hundreds of Billions in Military Aid (bribes), Hundreds of Billions in actual weaponry, Billions in Training, or for any OTHER Government to come to their Aid, send troops, speak on their behalf, or otherwise put it's thumb on the scales in this conflict.

Ukraine is a puppet of the USA (Biden's cash cow) UK and NATO. They are HARDLY acting alone to decide their fate. There is NOTHING 'Sovereign' about Ukraine.
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you sound like a russian shrill....i'm not convinced you actually served...but whatever...not gonna waste anymore time seeing anything you post...
 
SirJAG said:
you sound like a russian shrill....i'm not convinced you actually served...but whatever...not gonna waste anymore time seeing anything you post...
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Again, which is fine with me. The fact that you accuse me of being a shill shows how out of touch you are with this entire situation, going back to the dissolution of the USSR. This is just a continuation of NATO hegemony after the Cold War. You'd rather have a War, and Russia lose, than sit down and talk terms, and come to an agreement. NATO Expansionism has caused everyone else to react, much to the detriment of everyone else. NATO doesn't even need to exist any more. they should learn to get along with people instead of trying to overthrow governments and install their own puppet dictators, as they did in Ukraine and other Eastern European and Middles Eastern countries. The West doesn't want Peace. They want Dominance. Ain't happening.
 
Byran said:
Wtf did I waste time of my life reading. 🤣 Elections over who cares.
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Sorry Byran, we got a bit side tracked. Yup Election is over. Lefties are still losing their minds though. Gotta wonder if they will ACCEPT the results and be good citizens for the next 4 years. Somehow I doubt it.
 
Sheikh said:
Sorry Byran, we got a bit side tracked. Yup Election is over. Lefties are still losing their minds though. Gotta wonder if they will ACCEPT the results and be good citizens for the next 4 years. Somehow I doubt it.
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Sorry Bryan, Sheikh is delusional. Dems have accepted the results of the election despite Sheikh's alternate reality. Even though his team won, Shiekh still believes Dems cheated somehow.
 

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