Who is excited about the Ducati V4?

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That's exactly what I did. Ducati's site states 420lbs wet. Honda's SP is 430lb. The numbers on that screen shot from a magazine don't jive with the manufacturer specs (or U.S. magazine tests).

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that screen shot is from "Bike" or MCN". Both pretty Honda biased.

exactly.

People who believe everything magazines says are... I wont say it.

And yes I READ ALL magazines to include MCN and Bike. Its amazing how bias MCN is with Honda. FAKE Magazine!

I actually enjoy reading MCN but can clearly see false comparisons and data.
 
I suppose its just me but I just can't build any excitement about something that has already been done over and over. Another normally aspirated 1000CC or whatever 200hp motor. Some day maybe the bike industry will modernize a bit. Granted the H2R is a pig of a bike and even harder to look at but I find that a lot more interesting at least from a motor development perspective. That planetary gear blower is more interesting that anything Ducati is doing.

We know Debbie. :rolleyes:
 
Im sorry. I forgot to talk about stickers, decals and the 400th post on "look at my new rearsets" back to the regularly scheduled .... show.
 
Soon as they said price increase then ive lost some interest. In australia The Base 1299 is already very expensive in compared to the other bikes, let alone an S or R model. $43K AUD for a 1299s before you put any Akra's or extra on make for one very expensive bike.....which still doesnt feel like a 43K bike with all the built problems.

The latest R1 sounds great with a nice slip on. But still not as good as the old Long stroke Ducati twins of old were.

Ducati are pricing themselves out of the market here.
 
Soon as they said price increase then ive lost some interest. In australia The Base 1299 is already very expensive in compared to the other bikes, let alone an S or R model. $43K AUD for a 1299s before you put any Akra's or extra on make for one very expensive bike.....which still doesnt feel like a 43K bike with all the built problems.

The latest R1 sounds great with a nice slip on. But still not as good as the old Long stroke Ducati twins of old were.

Ducati are pricing themselves out of the market here.

Here in Sydney the base model is AU$29,990 ride away (thats how much I paid for it in 2015). The S model is another AU$7,000 on top of that. So nowhere near $43K.
As for problems, only ones I've experienced include air bubble in the clutch master cylinder (twice) and the random hard starts (average twice a year). Other than that, its been very solid, even after I did a fast low-side (thank god for insurance :D)
 
Im pretty excited about the v4. As soon as I see more details on it then I will likely put down a deposit. I have already told my dealer to get ready for it.

You have told your dealer to get ready for your deposit? Do they need to be prepared? They are merely taking your money. I don't wish to rain on your parade but they can do that any day of the week or place an order for that matter, as and when the V4 begins production. I suspect you'll be joining a long queue regardless, after the hype that will inevitably follow suit over the coming months, in the lead up to it's unveiling in Milan in November. No harm in getting a deposit down now but unlike a limited edition, you'll be one of thousands of potential customers worldwide with exactly the same idea.

Everyone likes to feel as if they are getting a personal service when buying a high end motorcycle, but the reality is that for almost everyone, you are simply a signature on a finance document and a small profit on their balance books. The margins on new motorcycles are small for the dealerships, so it's in their interest to sell as many as they can. I know of one potential 1299SL buyer (who could comfortably afford the bike) who was less than impressed with how Ducati handled his imminent purchase and decided if thats the way they want to conduct their business when you are about to spend £72,000, he would sooner pull out and buy an alternative. Every dealership is different, granted, but their ultimate raison d'etre is to make money.

I'll reserve judgement on the V4 until I see it in person and ride one. Never purchased a Ducati yet on specs and images alone. Bit like buying a high end car without a test drive and some research. Like many others, Y2 production is likely to be my marker, assuming the bike ticks all the boxes, since they will have hopefully got on top of any initial issues and there will be a greater choice of aftermarket parts available as third party manufacturers catch up.
 
You have told your dealer to get ready for your deposit? Do they need to be prepared? They are merely taking your money. I don't wish to rain on your parade but they can do that any day of the week or place an order for that matter, as and when the V4 begins production. I suspect you'll be joining a long queue regardless, after the hype that will inevitably follow suit over the coming months, in the lead up to it's unveiling in Milan in November. No harm in getting a deposit down now but unlike a limited edition, you'll be one of thousands of potential customers worldwide with exactly the same idea.

Everyone likes to feel as if they are getting a personal service when buying a high end motorcycle, but the reality is that for almost everyone, you are simply a signature on a finance document and a small profit on their balance books. The margins on new motorcycles are small for the dealerships, so it's in their interest to sell as many as they can. I know of one potential 1299SL buyer (who could comfortably afford the bike) who was less than impressed with how Ducati handled his imminent purchase and decided if thats the way they want to conduct their business when you are about to spend £72,000, he would sooner pull out and buy an alternative. Every dealership is different, granted, but their ultimate raison d'etre is to make money.

I'll reserve judgement on the V4 until I see it in person and ride one. Never purchased a Ducati yet on specs and images alone. Bit like buying a high end car without a test drive and some research. Like many others, Y2 production is likely to be my marker, assuming the bike ticks all the boxes, since they will have hopefully got on top of any initial issues and there will be a greater choice of aftermarket parts available as third party manufacturers catch up.

...nahh, everything you're saying there takes too long........just order one.....you know you're going to ;) LOL!
 
You have told your dealer to get ready for your deposit? Do they need to be prepared? They are merely taking your money. I don't wish to rain on your parade but they can do that any day of the week or place an order for that matter, as and when the V4 begins production. I suspect you'll be joining a long queue regardless, after the hype that will inevitably follow suit over the coming months, in the lead up to it's unveiling in Milan in November. No harm in getting a deposit down now but unlike a limited edition, you'll be one of thousands of potential customers worldwide with exactly the same.

I tell them get ready for a deposit jokingly. Sounds like you have had some bad experience's with dealerships. I hate that for you man. I guess I'm one of the lucky few that deal with dealerships that care about people and motorcycles. I agree they are out to make money, that's how they support their family. What they don't have to do is call me up when they go on rides through the mountains, invite me to track days with them , haul my bike back in forth to the track days, give me pointers when they see me doing something wrong or how to get better. If someone wants to feel special because they own a regular old Ducati, let them. Why do some people want to just "rain on peoples parade"? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but that doesn't make yours right and someone else's wrong.
 
I tell them get ready for a deposit jokingly. Sounds like you have had some bad experience's with dealerships. I hate that for you man. I guess I'm one of the lucky few that deal with dealerships that care about people and motorcycles. I agree they are out to make money, that's how they support their family. What they don't have to do is call me up when they go on rides through the mountains, invite me to track days with them , haul my bike back in forth to the track days, give me pointers when they see me doing something wrong or how to get better. If someone wants to feel special because they own a regular old Ducati, let them. Why do some people want to just "rain on peoples parade"? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but that doesn't make yours right and someone else's wrong.

Your right mate. No offence intended. The relationship between a customer and their dealership is usually based, as you doubtless realise, on trust, and the quality of service they provide you with and them therefore ensuring the likelihood that you will continue to trade with them and spend your money. I was merely trying to illustrate the point that some (not all dealers) are only interested in the latter, no matter how ingratiating they may be.

My usual dealer has supplied my bikes for the last 15 years. They are not known for their interpersonal skills or after sales service. I could not care less, I just get a better deal financially from them than most others, when it comes to purchasing a new bike. They know the bikes well enough (when it comes to maintenance), but I still choose to take the bikes elsewhere for any significant work, since I've no desire to be stiffed by main dealer pricing structures. Plus the company who carry out the work are local, have a massive clientelle list and charge half the price and boast at least 25 years more experience with the brand, than any main dealer within a 150 mile radius from me. You pays your money and takes your choice, as the tired old cliche goes.
 
...nahh, everything you're saying there takes too long........just order one.....you know you're going to ;) LOL!

Probably in 2019. Never bought Y1 production machines. Not likely to either, after 15+ years of owning Ducatis. I want there to be some appreciable equity in the current bike before I trade it in, else you get burned financially by the "chop-n-change" options that most of the main dealers will try to lure you into. Penny wise...Pound foolish, I was always taught.
 
Probably in 2019. Never bought Y1 production machines. Not likely to either, after 15+ years of owning Ducatis. I want there to be some appreciable equity in the current bike before I trade it in, else you get burned financially by the "chop-n-change" options that most of the main dealers will try to lure you into. Penny wise...Pound foolish, I was always taught.

...yes...of course you are right...it's just some of us are suckers for these things, and i guess i'm one :rolleyes:
 
...yes...of course you are right...it's just some of us are suckers for these things, and i guess i'm one :rolleyes:

Never said I couldn't be tempted though! I've spent a small fortune on motorcycles over the last twenty years and still haven't learned my lesson. :)
 
Here in Sydney the base model is AU$29,990 ride away (thats how much I paid for it in 2015). The S model is another AU$7,000 on top of that. So nowhere near $43K.
As for problems, only ones I've experienced include air bubble in the clutch master cylinder (twice) and the random hard starts (average twice a year). Other than that, its been very solid, even after I did a fast low-side (thank god for insurance :D)

You southeners....

Townsville & darwin both qouted $33K on road for Base and $43K on road for S.
Darwin dealer wanted to charge me $500 labour to put a set of slip on's a new bike....which came with a ducati deal of free slip ons.

Luck of the draw. Ive had water pump, thermostat, 2x brake MC, 1x Clutch MC and 2x cracked screens.
My fork seals and Clutch slave clyinder I did off own back as dealers are crap.
 
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You southeners....

Townsville & darwin both qouted $33K on road for Base and $43K on road for S.
Darwin dealer wanted to charge me $500 labour to put a set of slip on's a new bike....which came with a ducati deal of free slip ons.

Luck of the draw. Ive had water pump, thermostat, 2x brake MC, 1x Clutch MC and 2x cracked screens.
My fork seals and Clutch slave clyinder I did off own back as dealers are crap.

Ouch sorry to hear. Making me considering selling mine before it gets too old!
 
Ouch sorry to hear. Making me considering selling mine before it gets too old!

I can do all the work myself so isnt that bad. im up to 28000k so far...

Resale is a funny beast. so many 1199's up for sale cheaper than 899's!

Im wanting to turn this into a full track bike, but the Ducati tax on parts and the AUD just doesnt help. Might look at a cheaper Jap bike for track duties.
 
Very excited about this new bike. I don't have a problem being early adopter. I was with first year 1199 and owned it for 4 years. Other than heat in Florida summer, absolutely loved that bike. The 1299 was just too close to it so didn't upgrade to 1299. This could finally be a new bike from ducati I could buy. We'll see.
 
Supposdly 1000cc for the R and rumored 1200cc for road versions.

Just another article and concept image of the V4 if it hasnt been posted up already.

Ducati V4 superbike secrets revealed | MCN

I've never seen that article before so thank you for posting.

For what it's worth, I expect that render of the bike to be fairly accurate in that I suspect that the new bike isn't going to look completely different than the Panigale. Unlike before, I don't think that the new bike will have a completely new look.
 

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