‘22 V4 first impression & track prep questions

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bp_SFV4 said:
I'd definitely check the versions so you can compare before and after visiting the dealer.

You'll find that when the rear is set right you won't be so canted forward. Its a tighter riding position and the SF is better for traffic but both aren't well suited for city riding.
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Dude… I haven’t riden in a while. Been super hot and humid here but I tell you what… after riding the Pani yesterday I thought I’d give the SF a go and holy ....! I have a whole new appreciation for it. It feels great and in place.

Keep in mind that Doha, Qatar city roads aren’t the London or New York type… it’s more like Dallas or Houston iirc. So it’s a bit more spacious… but takes the definition of sweating to a different level.
 
While I owned both bikes I never rode them back to back. When I picked up the Panigale there was still snow and ice on the ground.

As soon as you aren’t moving the Panigale gives you some hate.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
While I owned both bikes I never rode them back to back. When I picked up the Panigale there was still snow and ice on the ground.

As soon as you aren’t moving the Panigale gives you some hate.
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That has to be a passionate purchase… borderline sexy. Buying a superbike while there’s snow on the ground… that says something.

I felt the hate you speak of but the SF can still be a scorcher in this heat.
 
I’m gonna do some mods and if anyone has any experience with them and can give me a heads up I’d appreciate it.

So far it’s…
TTX GP
FKR 115
DP rear sets
IMA clip ons
IMA triple clamps? (Because IDK?) experiences/thoughts welcome
Ohlins steering damper
Brake/clutch pumps RCS or corsa corta
BSD switchgear
Domino throttle
 
I have IMA triples and Clip ons both great
BUT for adjustability purposes do not get he IMA clip ons - bolts are on inside of forks super annoying to get to

I have OZ wheels set for sale and BSD left hand switch if you are interested
 
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SOLD! - OZ Racing Wheels // V4 xx99

Selling what was my rain wheels setup, 1- GASS RS-A front 1- Cattiva Rear front is black anodized , the rear is black powder coated (matte-ish satin look) they are in great shape $2200 plus shipping The close up just shows that the light area on the front is just residue from duct tape (wheel...
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For Sale - BSD Race Switches V4R // Ohlins Shock Springs // DP RearSets V4 // BSD Ignition Delete

Never used BSD V4R left hand switch - $500 shipped Ohlins rear shock springs 85 / 90 / 95 - $50 each DP rearsets used for 6 track days - $650 BSD ignition delete for xx99 - $175 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Alkhater said:
I’m gonna do some mods and if anyone has any experience with them and can give me a heads up I’d appreciate it.

So far it’s…
TTX GP
FKR 115
DP rear sets
IMA clip ons
IMA triple clamps? (Because IDK?) experiences/thoughts welcome
Ohlins steering damper
Brake/clutch pumps RCS or corsa corta
BSD switchgear
Domino throttle
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FKR/TTX GP:

The valving is VERY different from the stock suspension. So far I've dropped the front 8mm and raised the length on the rear by 2mm. Still not turning as well as it should but slowly getting there.

Brake/clutch pumps RCS or corsa corta:

Useless imo. Save your cash for something else. The stock brakes are very good. If you ride at a high level and plan to disconnect the abs its worth upgrading to the CNC radial brembo MC (around 500 euros)
 
KarlKani said:
RCS no better then oem

Laos agreed unless you upgrade calipers no reason to do masters - you should think about brakes as a complete system in regards to upgrading
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Sorry but have to politely disagree on the 2nd part. I find the calipers upgrade to generally be poor value for money unless running very long races. No major differences in outright stopping power; mostly just a more repeatable/steady feel over a lot of laps. Meanwhile good radial calipers like the cnc racing brembos provide an extermely noticeable improvement in feel to what you'd get on a stock jap bike (if no abs connected). Pads and good brake fluid obviously come first...

On the V4 though I have to say I'm very impressed with the braking system so far. The abs never intrudes, great feel, and even with the crazy heat here, it seems to remain firm. I'll have to double check that next week at the only proper track we have here but very good first impression.
 
Alkhater said:
Dude… I haven’t riden in a while. Been super hot and humid here but I tell you what… after riding the Pani yesterday I thought I’d give the SF a go and holy ....! I have a whole new appreciation for it. It feels great and in place.

Keep in mind that Doha, Qatar city roads aren’t the London or New York type… it’s more like Dallas or Houston iirc. So it’s a bit more spacious… but takes the definition of sweating to a different level.
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I hear that. I took off riding August and went to Burgundy. It was hitting 34C here. Nothing compared to the mid 40'sC of the deserts! I spent a lot of my youth in Arizona where it's pretty similar weather. It gets, 'go outside and die quickly' hot.
I don't know how you guys ride in Texas in the summer. Hats off.
I'm getting used to the heat from the bike. I hydrate more, ride earlier in the morning etc. I just do everything a little differently and got more conditioned for it.
That said, I've become allergic to invitations like, "Slow afternoon group ride through Chianti in July, with 3 hour lunch. (It's 92F) " Just no.
 
WetDog Racing said:
Sorry but have to politely disagree on the 2nd part. I find the calipers upgrade to generally be poor value for money unless running very long races. No major differences in outright stopping power; mostly just a more repeatable/steady feel over a lot of laps. Meanwhile good radial calipers like the cnc racing brembos provide an extermely noticeable improvement in feel to what you'd get on a stock jap bike (if no abs connected). Pads and good brake fluid obviously come first...

On the V4 though I have to say I'm very impressed with the braking system so far. The abs never intrudes, great feel, and even with the crazy heat here, it seems to remain firm. I'll have to double check that next week at the only proper track we have here but very good first impression.
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Where is here? &,
What's good brake pads & fluid with OEM system in your opinion? I'm not finding consistent answers. To me the OEM brakes on the track are really pretty good but seems like they could be better when they get on the hotter end.
 
WetDog Racing said:
Sorry but have to politely disagree on the 2nd part. I find the calipers upgrade to generally be poor value for money unless running very long races. No major differences in outright stopping power; mostly just a more repeatable/steady feel over a lot of laps. Meanwhile good radial calipers like the cnc racing brembos provide an extermely noticeable improvement in feel to what you'd get on a stock jap bike (if no abs connected). Pads and good brake fluid obviously come first...

On the V4 though I have to say I'm very impressed with the braking system so far. The abs never intrudes, great feel, and even with the crazy heat here, it seems to remain firm. I'll have to double check that next week at the only proper track we have here but very good first impression.
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Sure but in reference to the thread and the poster it doenst matter at this point. with OEM its not about how many laps per se but what the temp is - the decline with temp is most notable even in reg track day scenario
The OEM setup is great + the performance to $ ratio is as you stated Pads/Fluid>Master>Calipers>Rotors
 
Vbreeze said:
Where is here? &,
What's good brake pads & fluid with OEM system in your opinion? I'm not finding consistent answers. To me the OEM brakes on the track are really pretty good but seems like they could be better when they get on the hotter end.
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For pads, ZO4's or the new Galfers G1310. Motul RBF 700 for brake fluid. Probably plenty more that are good but these are the ones I know.

Will have a good test of the brakes next week at Chang International circuit. Listed as one of the hardest track for braking in the motogp calendar due to the heat and amount of heavy breaking zones. Currently using the galfer rotors and pads but with stock MC and ABS still on...
 
The SBS DS1 pad is very similar in feel and retardation to the ubiquitous Z04, but the SBS last longer and give off less dust.
I raced with the stock ABS, it is excellent. But, ultimately, I did bypass it for increased feel right at the limit.

At a circuit like Brands Hatch GP, my PB is approx four seconds off the superbike lap record, on the stock calipers and master cylinder. I've had no brake fade issues, and have just completed back to back endurance races. The first one was at Spa-Francorchamps, in approx 34⁰c temps. No wuzzas.
 
KarlKani said:
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SOLD! - OZ Racing Wheels // V4 xx99

Selling what was my rain wheels setup, 1- GASS RS-A front 1- Cattiva Rear front is black anodized , the rear is black powder coated (matte-ish satin look) they are in great shape $2200 plus shipping The close up just shows that the light area on the front is just residue from duct tape (wheel...
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For Sale - BSD Race Switches V4R // Ohlins Shock Springs // DP RearSets V4 // BSD Ignition Delete

Never used BSD V4R left hand switch - $500 shipped Ohlins rear shock springs 85 / 90 / 95 - $50 each DP rearsets used for 6 track days - $650 BSD ignition delete for xx99 - $175 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Thanks for the offer.

I believe that BSD switch set is V4R specific... not sure how compatible it is with the non R.

Do you still have the Ohlins 85, 90 rear spring? Do they fit TTX GP?
 
Regarding RCS masters... I've read reviews that the improvements are moderate but in all honesty I like their aesthetics and they' aren't very expensive. Stock levers and masters are too bulky.
 
I’ve had both on different bikes, and Gilles are a step up in quality and ease of adjustment in my opinion.
 

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