1199R vs 1299S - Which is better?

My friend put a deposit on a 1299S and he was saying how the 1299S is able to blow 1199R out of the water. What do you think?

False.

1299 S will be a GREAT bike, BUT not happening!!

Are you referring to the MY 14 R or the 2015 Pani R?

TJ99 also commented in the other thread that there are only two bikes faster than the new 1299S around Mugello, the SL and the new 2015R. So, your friend is wrong.

500rpm, rods, flywheel, versus some pretty substantial beefening.

So tempted to say "checkmate"

I think it will be close, but the 1199R should eke out a win.

If he is comparing the 2014 1199r to the 1299s the 1299s is all around better and faster even as ducati stated, but if its the Pani R vs 1299s the Pani R is hands down superior.

kickarsmann said:

My friend put a deposit on a 1299S and he was saying how the 1299S is able to blow 1199R out of the water. What do you think?

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I think the real question is what bike is better suited to the application of your friend. The question around "blowing it out of the water" sounds a tad juvenile.

Yeah 2014 1199R vs 2015 1299S.

He's all about the performance and bragging rights. Just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions.

kickarsmann said:

Yeah 2014 1199R vs 2015 1299S.

He's all about the performance and bragging rights. Just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions.

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1299S hands down. 15' Pani R is a race/track machine though.

Just IMHO, street = 1299s, track/race = 1199r. Even with the updates, I would still want the internals of the 1199r for track/race use.

i put a deposit on the 2015r but i can't help but think about the diffrence in torque power compared to the 2015 PANIGALE S model i know they have the same HP and not so on the torque can some one give me the pros and cons on both bikes

kickarsmann said:

My friend put a deposit on a 1299S and he was saying how the 1299S is able to blow 1199R out of the water. What do you think?

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There are a handful of guys in the world that are fast enough for the difference to matter.

Odds are your friend is not one of those guys.

I have a '14 1199R and doubt the '15 1299S is going to be close at all!

leftcoast32 said:

I have a '14 1199R and doubt the '15 1299S is going to be close at all!

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Care to expand on that??

Stw said:

Care to expand on that??

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Based on the reviews. The only bike faster than the 1299S is the SL and 2015R. I bet the 1299S gives the old Rs a run for their money.

Bragging rights are stupid.

Everyone that claims a bike can blow another out of the water, or into the water, or over a Twinkie, needs to post some credibility. Lap times at a track or something.

I'm tired of slow arse ......s telling me how fast a bike is or isn't.

We need a lap time signature or something. I'm slow for example. Don't take advice from me over why a bike is better on a track than another. Maybe my sig should say: "Slow guy. Ignore bragging rights and race bike recommendations from this guy." And the guys who can actually ride, it would just say "1:24 (Mid Ohio)" So we know they aren't full of it when they say an R is faster than a 1299.

It's pathetic. It's like a 98 pound kid that can't lift 100 pounds asking which is a better brand of 150 pound weights. And then a bunch of weak internet jockeys jump in. "BMW has 151 pound weights now!, I'm going to lift those!"

So the 85 year old lady next door, who can't drive faster than 55 without having a heart attack, told me that the Ferrari 458 is a better car than a Porsche 911 turbo because potato. How should I respond to that? Just say "Yeah potato." ??? And leave? Or should I have a long winded conversation of why Porsche potatos may still be better?
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The 1299 is a bigger engine version of the 1199. That doesn't make it faster for me because I'm not even ringing out the 1199's engine, or even a slower GSXR 750 for that matter. And an 1199R is just plain crazy potatos. So whats the point?

But when the rider of Potato A(1199R) is also the Rider of Potato B(1299S) say sits faster and ran it faster on the track, that means Potato B is faster and better, but to those of us that ride like french fries we couldnt really tel much of a difference. Besides Potatoes and Taters are the same thing just called different names(bad ass ducati bikes that 99.2% couldn't begin to extract its full potential from) That was fun

Well saidBuliwyf,by far the best post i've read in a while "potato"