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Good news guys one of my bikes is fixed picking her up tomorrow.
1299s shutting off?
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Ok guys both my bikes are fixed with new QS and IMU, one of the dealerships is dropping one off and the other one will be here soon 
so happy got a new updated QS and latest IMU version. Unfortunately i cant test ride them to give you a report due to lack of license to ride.
so happy got a new updated QS and latest IMU version. Unfortunately i cant test ride them to give you a report due to lack of license to ride.Ok guys both my bikes are fixed with new QS and IMU, one of the dealerships is dropping one off and the other one will be here soon
I'm curious to know if the new QS and IMU fix for the engine stalling problem does eliminate the issue. If you can't ride it, can your GF give us an insight? I also have the problem but I have gone the Tuneboy route. Since then I have only done 50kms, no stalling but it too early to call.
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We have not rode our bikes since the fix 1) On holiday and 2) no license to ride didn't wanna take them out for a test ride no license mean no insurance
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Alpha Male Srry to hear you had to go through all these pains to get it running right.
My buddy (Speedy14) also had his issues and took dealer couple months to fix his bike.
I bought my at same dealer as Speedy and it's been running like Balls to the wall
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My buddy (Speedy14) also had his issues and took dealer couple months to fix his bike.
I bought my at same dealer as Speedy and it's been running like Balls to the wall
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My brother inlaw test rode our bikes the last few days and reported the bikes didn't stall when using clutch manually or while idling at traffic lights.
It seems our bikes are fixed.
If your bikes were built in 2015 or prior to July 2016 you might have an older IMU and QS (we got ours upgraded to the latest version and that seemed to have eliminated the problems).
Thank you Ducati Italy for shipping those parts on overnight freight - Merry Christmas and Happy new year to all at Ducati as well as our local Ducati Dealerships for fixing our bikes pronto.
Stop teasing me already lol thanks for sharing looked like you had a lot of fun - I'm not into group riding, too many accidents.
It seems our bikes are fixed.
If your bikes were built in 2015 or prior to July 2016 you might have an older IMU and QS (we got ours upgraded to the latest version and that seemed to have eliminated the problems).
Thank you Ducati Italy for shipping those parts on overnight freight - Merry Christmas and Happy new year to all at Ducati as well as our local Ducati Dealerships for fixing our bikes pronto.
Stop teasing me already lol thanks for sharing looked like you had a lot of fun - I'm not into group riding, too many accidents.
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How did you find out that bikes built prior to July 2016 might have an older IMU and QS?Mine was produced in June 2016 and I am wondering what I got.
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If the error were that easy to replicate, then surely a lot of dealerships would have been more helpful. Mine has done it twice or three times in 6 months.
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I was told by my dealership
Same with my S it doesn't happen frequently so it was hard for the dealership to obtain the error code (in the end they didn't get the error code but Ducati Italy told them to replace our QS and IMU).
Our base 1299 does it like at least 10 times a month ...
Message to all the Social Justice Keyboard Weirdo Wariors (probably doesn't even own a Pani): if you think engine shutting off is TROLLING grow some balls girlie boy this world isn't for you.
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Having had so many bikes in my many years I find it amazing that all the dealers of any make of bike eventually have to be educated by the owners.
I have a 1299 Panigale, K1300 for big miles and a 675r Daytona for fun.
The Triumph has been faultless but the BMW has had vibration issues that got the comment "they are all like that", they are not as my friends identical bike is great, so is mine now but I had to spend £800 on a new primary gear to sort it.
If your still with me my 1299 was weird to ride instantly, difficult to pull away and throttle response if the clutch was pulled in felt like the "wet mode".
Dealer said he couldn't fault it when he returned from a test, I was convinced by now it was something to do with the clutch switch, I looked underneath to see what operated it....... the pin on the clutch lever completely missed the micro switch lever!!!!! We bent it into position, totally different bike at low speed.
We then checked the test bike I had ridden..... exactly the same.... so for once the dealer was telling the truth!! We reset the switch on that bike too... magic.
Obviously this switch does far more than stop you firing up in gear through the ECU, quite why I have no idea but the electronics on new bikes are hard to fathom anyway.
The dealer was a brand new one in Cambridge so to judge to harshly would be unfair but we shouldn't have to put up with "they all run like that" just because they can't be arsed to listen properly and test to find the problem.
I have a 1299 Panigale, K1300 for big miles and a 675r Daytona for fun.
The Triumph has been faultless but the BMW has had vibration issues that got the comment "they are all like that", they are not as my friends identical bike is great, so is mine now but I had to spend £800 on a new primary gear to sort it.
If your still with me my 1299 was weird to ride instantly, difficult to pull away and throttle response if the clutch was pulled in felt like the "wet mode".
Dealer said he couldn't fault it when he returned from a test, I was convinced by now it was something to do with the clutch switch, I looked underneath to see what operated it....... the pin on the clutch lever completely missed the micro switch lever!!!!! We bent it into position, totally different bike at low speed.
We then checked the test bike I had ridden..... exactly the same.... so for once the dealer was telling the truth!! We reset the switch on that bike too... magic.
Obviously this switch does far more than stop you firing up in gear through the ECU, quite why I have no idea but the electronics on new bikes are hard to fathom anyway.
The dealer was a brand new one in Cambridge so to judge to harshly would be unfair but we shouldn't have to put up with "they all run like that" just because they can't be arsed to listen properly and test to find the problem.
Wow!!! My "16 1299 does this occasionally at red lights, starting in first gear or coming to a stop. All at slow speeds. My bike has 1200 miles on it so I've been hoping it would work its self out but it seems like this is more of a problem than I thought. It also sounds like I shouldn't bother taking it in since there is no fix. That sux.
I have read a lot about it and talked to Ducati mechanics and I an now thinking this is due to a basic engine design issue..
Huge pistons , short stroke and light flywheel... That is probably why the factory has the engine idle set at 1700 RPM!
No amount of twiddling with it will fix it.. It is just another thing we have to "Put up with"
Ducati has pushed this motor to just about all the horsepower they can (and still pass the European EPA regulations etc.)
That is why they are geared so high from the factory.. Just so they can pass noise regulations. This is so they run at such lower RPM (quieter) when riding by a sound pressure meter.
Just my theory Others may vary..
Speedy
Huge pistons , short stroke and light flywheel... That is probably why the factory has the engine idle set at 1700 RPM!
No amount of twiddling with it will fix it.. It is just another thing we have to "Put up with"
Ducati has pushed this motor to just about all the horsepower they can (and still pass the European EPA regulations etc.)
That is why they are geared so high from the factory.. Just so they can pass noise regulations. This is so they run at such lower RPM (quieter) when riding by a sound pressure meter.
Just my theory Others may vary..
Speedy
I would have to disagree. My rotating assembly in 1299 # 1 is quite a bit lighter than stock (rods, pistons, Fox Crank, lightweight flywheel etc and the only issues I have has in now 11,000 miles have been rider induced and I say that as I take all responsibility for the original clutch switch/QS issue and, rider blunders (stalling the bike). Once I actually learned how to ride the damn thing in a stop and go environment, I have not stalled it. The bike shutting off issue that some have is electrical. There are a host of players that have to work harmoniously and you get an instrument out of sync, and Your going to have issues. Once I got the fueling and the stupid operator issues handed, the thing has bee a Rolex on wheels. The motor is fantastic and I'm not a brand fan by any means but once you get this bike sorted, it's stellar.
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If it was an engine design issue it would happen to all of us. Obviously, it does not.
I guess some of us can get our bikes "sorted" as you call it, and some cannot.. I have had mine in the shop many many times and NO one from myself to the dealer to the factory rep has been able to sort it out.. Mine will sometimes just sit there idyling and suddenly stall. It has gotten much better however you just never know when it is going to happen. When it does it is embarrassing at the least and down right dangerous depending on the situation you are in when it happens. I think mine has something to do in the ECU or an electrical gremlin Either way it is a very expensive bike and is a shame anyone has to "put up with it"
I recently had the dealer put the original ECU (which was replaced before trying to correct the running issues a year ago) and it seemed to help some with the bucking and kicking running at slower speeds in town.. At least it is semi rideable now...
However you never can really know with these bikes how they will run from one day to the next once they start acting up.Glad you are happy with yours.. Others are not as lucky..
Speedy
I sympathize with your position however your pathway to solutions have obviously yielded poor results. I had bike one down to the last nut and bolt including the engine. From the day it went back together and was fired, except for a few very explainable instances which were my fault, this thing has been rock solid. I have zero reservations about taking this thing anywhere. Starts every single time (quickly) and is for all intensive purposes, bullet proof. Never a hint of a leak (oil or water) anywhere. I blame the reliability on attention to detail in the assembly and to the component selection and making sure I tackled this project as I would an aircraft project. The electronics on the bike are mostly stock except for the RB and some modifications made to the harness so that I could put the RB in the tail. On that note, I guess I got lucky and got and ECU and related parts that were out of the "good" lot. Your bike is still broken for one simple reason. You have not had a person address it that was capable of understanding the issues. Its not magic. To have the issues that you say you have requires a fairly regimented adherence to logic and physics. If you look in the right place in a non biological (static) assembly of mechanical components and there is an anomaly, your going to find it. Its that simple. If its still an issue, you have simply not employed the skill sets necessary to rectify the situation. It matters not if Ducati or NASA looked at it. Logic has dictated that they have not looked in the right place. That is basic logic and revolves around basic physics. I have an extremely difficult time digesting that DNA has replaced as a system all of the components involved in engine management and your still having issues. I think someone is giving you the run around.
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My bike is still shutting off as well, it's to the point I went out and bought a Gopro to document this ....!
Boy that was very concise and detailed Mr. Science!
That was a pretty long explanation to simply say they have not found the problem yet LOL..
I think you are right. it is probably something very simple... Maybe a bad wiring design or a intermittent short.. etc... Whatever it is, it doesn't matter to me what that cause if it is STILL doing it..!
So no matter whether it is a bad engine design or a flaw it matters not.. All I and others really care about is getting it fixed. Speedy
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