2018 Ducati V4 Its real, well at least the motor

Alf · Mar 26, 2017

Mutt1979 said:
However, he did point out it has to be released for 2018 otherwise they won't have anything to race. That means the R will also have to be in production for WSBK rules.

very interesting. so those leaning towards the R may not have to wait until year 2? then again, maybe the rules allow some flexibility on when the bike needs to hit the showroom floor. december 2018 (as a 2019 model) is still technically 2018.

IdZer0 · Mar 26, 2017

Did the rep say 'for 2018' or 'before 2018' and which show was he alluding to ?

DStyleNZL · Mar 26, 2017

On my Sunday ride, one of the local dealers who rides with us, said that the 1299 has stopped being produced as the factory is being re-tooled for a new model.
Only 959 is still being made.

Anyone hear this too?

Alf · Mar 26, 2017

IdZer0 said:
Did the rep say 'for 2018' or 'before 2018' and which show was he alluding to ?

gotta be the usual end year nov show - eicma? so expect to see something this november?

Mutt1979 · Mar 26, 2017

Alf said:
gotta be the usual end year nov show - eicma? so expect to see something this november?

I'm pretty sure we should see a finished machine unveiled this year. I'm not certain of WSBK rules as to how and when the bike has to be on the shelves to be classed as a production bike?

As Endodoc said the engine is already in production and he didn't dispute that fact.

ghostdog6 · Mar 27, 2017

Mutt1979 said:
That means the R will also have to be in production for WSBK rules. He just alluded to the bike shows later this year.

Don't know if that's necessarily true; the R is the homologated bike for, among other things, engine size at 1199 to meet the WSBK requirements. We'd have to assume the V4 will be 1000cc a cross the board, they could presumably race based on a base or "S" model. I know with rule changes that there are several other things built into the R now that have to be there, so it is possible that an R exists the first year. But maybe it doesn't have to be?

flobrandx · Mar 27, 2017

It would seem better to not release the R and race the base/S version. That way through development and testing during the race season they could then release the R to homologate the changes they want to make to the WSBK bike.

Mutt1979 · Mar 27, 2017

ghostdog6 said:
Don't know if that's necessarily true; the R is the homologated bike for, among other things, engine size at 1199 to meet the WSBK requirements. We'd have to assume the V4 will be 1000cc a cross the board, they could presumably race based on a base or "S" model. I know with rule changes that there are several other things built into the R now that have to be there, so it is possible that an R exists the first year. But maybe it doesn't have to be?

I'm not certain to be honest. But now that you mention it the original 1199 Panigale R did follow after the base and S models

ghostdog6 · Mar 27, 2017

Mutt1979 said:
I'm not certain to be honest. But now that you mention it the original 1199 Panigale R did follow after the base and S models

Remember too, they raced the Pani in Superstock the first year and didn't move it to WSBK until the year after. But if I remember correctly, Ducati didn't have any direct involvement (i.e. no team) in WSBK in that transition year anyway.

royal · Mar 31, 2017

Is it here yet? I'm going to sell my S1000RR to Mark1234 and buy the V4

topolino · Mar 31, 2017

Probably an EICMA November 2017 unveiling, prefaced by the usual spy shots on the internet and doubtless a poorly framed picture of the bike taken with a 'hidden' camera at a dealer conference. These things have a habit of leaking out and if the 1098 and 1199 are anything to go by, it's almost contrived in that it is so predictable and a repeating pattern. Still it keeps people keen which is what Ducati want and by building up the hype around it by drip feeding us information and snippets, merely fuels the level of interest and speculation.

DStyleNZL · Mar 31, 2017

topolino said:
Probably an EICMA November 2017 unveiling, prefaced by the usual spy shots on the internet and doubtless a poorly framed picture of the bike taken with a 'hidden' camera at a dealer conference. These things have a habit of leaking out and if the 1098 and 1199 are anything to go by, it's almost contrived in that it is so predictable and a repeating pattern. Still it keeps people keen which is what Ducati want and by building up the hype around it by drip feeding us information and snippets, merely fuels the level of interest and speculation.

...add that to the people on here who say they have seen documents or pics yet wont share.

Pics or it didnt happen...

endodoc · Mar 31, 2017

I have shared the pics with a few people on this board. You want pics, shoot me a PM. I promised not to post publicly.

jyli19 · Mar 31, 2017

can we get this straight, it will be a L4, stop saying V4.

Please let it be a L4, otherwise i would sound like an idiot.

Wallaroo · Mar 31, 2017

Endodoc is right it is not up to him to put up pics if he is not supposed to.

When I was first told of this bike in October I was told not to say much about it, except it was coming and it has a double sided swing arm, but if you guy's are serious about one of these I would be getting your deposits down. This is going to be one awesome bike, Ducati are out to win the WSBK title back and what they are building is going to be quite capable of doing it

Alf · Mar 31, 2017

Wallaroo said:
... it has a double sided swing arm...

i wonder how most people feel about that. i wouldn't mind seeing a base/S with a SSSW and an R with the double.

flobrandx · Mar 31, 2017

V4....L4...double or single sided...who gives a .... as long as it's an awesome bike. If it's not then I'll get another RSV4.

DANGER CLOSE · Mar 31, 2017

Alf said:
i wonder how most people feel about that. i wouldn't mind seeing a base/S with a SSSW and an R with the double.

I'm a big fan of the SSSW, but it seems it's on the chopping block as the OP said.

bradp51 · Mar 31, 2017

Wallaroo said:
Endodoc is right it is not up to him to put up pics if he is not supposed to.

When I was first told of this bike in October I was told not to say much about it, except it was coming and it has a double sided swing arm, but if you guy's are serious about one of these I would be getting your deposits down. This is going to be one awesome bike, Ducati are out to win the WSBK title back and what they are building is going to be quite capable of doing it

Now come on Wallaroo. It is April 1st. Are you having fun or should I stop spending money on gloss carbon for my "old" 1199S and start saving a deposit.

Twistedracer · Mar 31, 2017

bradp51 said:
Now come on Wallaroo. It is April 1st. Are you having fun or should I stop spending money on gloss carbon for my "old" 1199S and start saving a deposit.

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