2018 Ducati V4 Its real, well at least the motor

mark419ny · Mar 24, 2017

Had to correct that hahaha

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flobrandx · Mar 24, 2017

mark419ny said:
Listen if your 2 stupid to understand that 2 different riders on 2 different bikes hitting points at 2 different speeds at 2 different times you are to stupid to comment anymore

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The answer to your equation = 32 stupid reasons and variables why that comparison is .......

McobraR · Mar 24, 2017

mark419ny said:
Listen if your 2 stupid to understand that 2 different riders on 2 different bikes hitting points at 2 different speeds at 2 different times you are to stupid to comment anymore

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Lol it was obvious in my original post that the whole vid wasnt fair to begin with considering weight, i was just trying to annoy you and youre 'superior' hp4. In the end there are too many variables in the real world, out of all my recordings, that was the only with a modified hp4 that was ahead that i overtook... looked good doing it too

mark419ny · Mar 24, 2017

McobraR said:
Lol it was obvious in my original post that the whole vid wasnt fair to begin with considering weight, i was just trying to annoy you and youre 'superior' hp4. In the end there are too many variables in the real world, out of all my recordings, that was the only with a modified hp4 that was ahead that i overtook... looked good doing it too

you did look pretty good well done

Alf · Mar 24, 2017

guess there just aren't enough moderators. people are clicking this thread to glean info on the next superbike and instead have to read all this stupid .....

flobrandx · Mar 25, 2017

Good point @Alf...Let's get back to our topic for this thread.

flobrandx · Mar 25, 2017

I'm curious as to what the final weight will be with the V4. I love my RSV4 but it is a tad chubby or big boned compared to the Panigale. My understanding is that is in part due to the V4 config. How will or can Ducati produce a production V4 close to the same weight of the Panigale?

shakazulu12 · Mar 25, 2017

Depends on whether Ducati keeps a frame or not. While the Aprilia engine is hefty, so is the frame. They pretty much built that thing per the Superbike rules package that they had at the time. Which meant the streetbike really didn't have to be that light, since everything was getting chucked on the race machine anyway. I would expect it to gain some weight for sure. Some of that being parts, some of that simply being more emissions equipment which everyone is going to yank off anyway.

flobrandx · Mar 25, 2017

Yea, it would be interesting to see weight for street vs track setup. Not WSBK weight but what us mortals ride for track setup. I wish I had a scale to weigh my RSV4 in track trim to see what it's really weighs right now.

tadashi · Mar 25, 2017

shakazulu12 said:
Depends on whether Ducati keeps a frame or not. While the Aprilia engine is hefty, so is the frame. They pretty much built that thing per the Superbike rules package that they had at the time. Which meant the streetbike really didn't have to be that light, since everything was getting chucked on the race machine anyway. I would expect it to gain some weight for sure. Some of that being parts, some of that simply being more emissions equipment which everyone is going to yank off anyway.

Word is there is a frame- not a traditional frame but more of a frame than the pani monocoque

shakazulu12 · Mar 25, 2017

I could see it. I bet it will still be near the top of the class in lightness though. Just the Ducati way. I think the SL's were getting under the SBK weight limit in street trim. So they have quite a margin to work with.

Mutt1979 · Mar 26, 2017

I would prefer to keep with the monocoque. Anything bigger and heavier than the current Panigale R for me would be a show stopper.

I went to the dealers again this week and the Ducati rep was there. We tried to get some more info from him about the V4 but he was having none of it other than a stupid grin.

However, he did point out it has to be released for 2018 otherwise they won't have anything to race. That means the R will also have to be in production for WSBK rules. He just alluded to the bike shows later this year.

Alf · Mar 26, 2017

Mutt1979 said:
However, he did point out it has to be released for 2018 otherwise they won't have anything to race. That means the R will also have to be in production for WSBK rules.

very interesting. so those leaning towards the R may not have to wait until year 2? then again, maybe the rules allow some flexibility on when the bike needs to hit the showroom floor. december 2018 (as a 2019 model) is still technically 2018.

IdZer0 · Mar 26, 2017

Did the rep say 'for 2018' or 'before 2018' and which show was he alluding to ?

DStyleNZL · Mar 26, 2017

On my Sunday ride, one of the local dealers who rides with us, said that the 1299 has stopped being produced as the factory is being re-tooled for a new model.
Only 959 is still being made.

Anyone hear this too?

Alf · Mar 26, 2017

IdZer0 said:
Did the rep say 'for 2018' or 'before 2018' and which show was he alluding to ?

gotta be the usual end year nov show - eicma? so expect to see something this november?

Mutt1979 · Mar 26, 2017

Alf said:
gotta be the usual end year nov show - eicma? so expect to see something this november?

I'm pretty sure we should see a finished machine unveiled this year. I'm not certain of WSBK rules as to how and when the bike has to be on the shelves to be classed as a production bike?

As Endodoc said the engine is already in production and he didn't dispute that fact.

ghostdog6 · Mar 27, 2017

Mutt1979 said:
That means the R will also have to be in production for WSBK rules. He just alluded to the bike shows later this year.

Don't know if that's necessarily true; the R is the homologated bike for, among other things, engine size at 1199 to meet the WSBK requirements. We'd have to assume the V4 will be 1000cc a cross the board, they could presumably race based on a base or "S" model. I know with rule changes that there are several other things built into the R now that have to be there, so it is possible that an R exists the first year. But maybe it doesn't have to be?

flobrandx · Mar 27, 2017

It would seem better to not release the R and race the base/S version. That way through development and testing during the race season they could then release the R to homologate the changes they want to make to the WSBK bike.

Mutt1979 · Mar 27, 2017

ghostdog6 said:
Don't know if that's necessarily true; the R is the homologated bike for, among other things, engine size at 1199 to meet the WSBK requirements. We'd have to assume the V4 will be 1000cc a cross the board, they could presumably race based on a base or "S" model. I know with rule changes that there are several other things built into the R now that have to be there, so it is possible that an R exists the first year. But maybe it doesn't have to be?

I'm not certain to be honest. But now that you mention it the original 1199 Panigale R did follow after the base and S models

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