Yes, I heard the same thing, no more 1299 in production
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Yes, I heard the same thing, no more 1299 in production
True story.....
The 1299 will not pass future noise and emissions regulations so it has stopped production
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The 1299 engine will filter down into other models, detuned and with euro emissions....gone are the days of a thunderous, powerful V twin.
Now come on Wallaroo. It is April 1st. Are you having fun or should I stop spending money on gloss carbon for my "old" 1199S and start saving a deposit.
Get the carbon and save later
Yes, I heard the same thing, no more 1299 in production
I heard that all the 2017 1299 builds are done for the year and Ducati has now switched over the line to filling the 959 builds for 2017. This is normal practice for cycle manufactures. It does not necessarily mean that production for the 1299 has ceased..
All the 2017 Panigale's pass Euro 4 spec. So they should be good to go until the stricter 2020 euro 5 spec comes into effect. After that...?
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Please god no.
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Please god no.
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I almost bought the 1299s but I may have to wait see what this brings. Hopefully it Is worth the wait.
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Me too veteran. I loved my 1199, but couldn't do another Florida summer on her. (What heat.....? ) I really hope they have something good coming.
The neutering I received by uttering the words "I do" went a long way to alleviating any heat issues. I wanted to believe it was all the mods but alas, the truth comes out. And on that note, the new V4 at least in the "mock up" phase is called Panigale V4. Said so right on the fairing. So far, it is a Panigale with a new motor and a double sided swingarm. Is it going to be cool? yep. Is is going to have problems right out of the box? yep. If I can get a motor, I will screw with a build. If I cant, I will not buy the first year.
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Still going to do the usual and drop the "R" in the second year? I would think that would be the monster to wait for.
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Never buy the first generation of anything.
It is always worth the wait...
With Ducati, who knows. They have a whole marketing dept dedicated to getting the maximum millage out verbiage that makes you feel special and a part of that "exclusive" club. Im not brand happy. I use whatever the mission calls for. The only reason I built the first 1299 is that I never owned a twin and decided to give it a shot. I would never pay 30K for a 1299. I would gladly spend 80K to build one however. If the new V4 is a good platform and I can get a motor, I will build the rest. If its a really good motor and i have to buy the bike and part it out to get the motor, I will. If the motor isn't significantly advanced to warrant the work, I will pass all together.
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Why it that the every post you make it just to let us know what a great motor builder you are?and to rub in our face that unless you build the motor all the oem motor are ....? yes, you know how to build .... and know a lot about engine parts and metals a least more than me. but please be a littler humble and admit that Ducati, Yamaha, and other manufacturers spend more money that you have in research and testing.so they try to make a product good and reliable. Not everybody needs a race build engine but you keep comment and how inferior is a stock engine. (if you know some much how about you build an engine.build one like the Panigale from the ground up?) we know you can make a stock engine better now go a build an engine better than oem.
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I think you misread his post and others. READ it again and there is no mention of motor building.
He's not talking about building the motor, he's talking about needing the motor and frame and then build his bike around that base structure and motor if its a good base to begin with.
Thats how I read what Endo's doing. And I didn't hear any horn tooting in his post here on this thread and I don't feel he came across that way other than starting he can build a better bike for the money. Which is true. I'm pretty sure you could build a better bike starting with a base model vs the cost of an S or R. Just think if you started with a base and used the left over money that an SL costs? That's his point...
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yeah same here.
Well yes "esmirna" does have a habit of not bothering to read the content which leads to a misinterpreted context. The point was about having access to more options from a global perspective which is very appealing. A large segment of what is talked about on this board and others is modifying what you just bought from the dealer. My only intention in discussing this here was to voice some ideas with regard to the new motor coming out of Ducati and throw some ideas out there on some options. There is zero mention of me or anyone doing anything any better than anyone else. Just options. The ultimate experience for anyone buying a motorcycle or anything for that matter is that hopefully when you have made your purchase that the manufacturer delivered to you as close to what you envision as optimal to you as an individual. Motorcycles and cars are "cookie cutter" versions based on obvious factors. The next step is the customization phase and judging by the massive number of aftermarket suppliers, paints a rather obvious picture that many buyers are not completely satisfied with what the mfg has provided. My point is that it would be great if you could "buffet" your purchase and get exactly what you want that it would ultimately benefit everyone. Its that simple. Pick your power plant, suspension, wheels etc and you get the bike "you" without a garage full of spare parts and in many cases, you will save money and end up with a much nicer bike. Again, nothing about me just an idea that seems like it would solve a lot of issues.
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I see your point and I agree with you, Yes it will be a dream if you can get a company to custom build a sport bike like that ( I know you can do it on chopper but not on sport bike unless is a race bike) and yes as you mention my garage is full on crap that I pay for it but never going to used.
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