2025, totally new Panigale(?)

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What I find interesting is these bikes have about the same weight with more HP then the NSR250's with built motors (but heavier than the GP 250's). After riding this everything else will feel utterly porcine. Losing that 80 lbs will be a mind altering experience.
Moto3 has superior corner speeds than MotoGP, its just what kind of experience you want out of your riding, also fat cvnts need bigger bikes
 
Ahem... this is a Ducati Panigale forum so all the Kramers and RC8's can fu<K off back to Austria or wherever they come from. Lets all encourage Steven to bling his new R to the absolute t!ts, not ride around in circles on a gaudy orange parallel twin 🤣

Haha

Well I now have a blue and red suit so I already have the livery for the 2025 V4R sorted, gunna be a dark blue base, with a medium blue and Ducati red accents, and a big white #34 😂😂😂

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I’m gunna leave the Sparks WSBK exhaust, and the H20 radiator on there, but pull my braking system and suspension stuff off to carry over to the new bike. Deciding about the Swingarm.
 
Moto3 has superior corner speeds than MotoGP, its just what kind of experience you want out of your riding, also fat cvnts need bigger bikes

The RC 8C sits right in the middle, 309 pounds wet, but has enough power for us fat ......
 
Not surprised that you still can’t formulate the logic to answer the question.
Literally spelled it out for you.
Zero actual knowledge or experience with either bike's electronic package.
Still posting like you are an expert with no actual knowledge. Case in point on the TC thing. You did get folded in half by a seat install, so maybe I need to lower the bar for the expected content of your posts.
 
You have the reading comprehension of a ........ goat.

You’d still be crying like a .... that dipshit lied to you over some fairings. The melt down over a $200 seat was epic. I lost no sleep over that fairing nonsense. I told that ..... to go piss up a rope when he started demanding I remove the thread. I’d rather let people know how ...... his company is that be hassled with the matter for longer.

Keep fluffing Steven though. Its hilarious how desperately you seek his approval.
 
I’d be willing to put money on a 2025 Supermono based on the 695 platform

They need to put a pump on it and vacuum valve it off in low demand situations like Ford does. 10 lbs of boost, 130 HP, 330 lb weight. We'll see. This would be the only Ducati that they could entice me to buy new. Otherwise, I will continue my string of 2nd hand poseur hand me downs.
 
Just watched the Fast Bikes 2024 Fireblade SP launch video and now see what's on the horizon. 25 will be about upgrading the electronics of the suspension and braking. It'll have the new Ohlins EC3 and new Bosch ABS system where you can allegedly turn ABS completely off. Might also have SAP and ergo changes. The engine and chassis will most likely stay the same. Would be nice if they lightened the pistons and reduced friction similar to the V4R motor.
 
The Honda is extremely well built and finished, it would be next on the list if I moved on from Ducati
 
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Just watched the Fast Bikes 2024 Fireblade SP launch video and now see what's on the horizon. 25 will be about upgrading the electronics of the suspension and braking. It'll have the new Ohlins EC3 and new Bosch ABS system where you can allegedly turn ABS completely off. Might also have SAP and ergo changes. The engine and chassis will most likely stay the same. Would be nice if they lightened the pistons and reduced friction similar to the V4R motor.

Just to be clear …. Are these statements all definite maybe’s?🙄
 
Saw this come across my Google news today. Double swing arm!?

 
Looks like it’s for the V4S and SP models but not the R?

I'm not sure why they would bother with double-sided swing arm in 2025 SBK season. Ducati won 2023 with ease and so far 2024 looks like a repeat.

Why change something that works.
 
Based on the article this will be the reveal for the all new V4 that was supposed to be shown this last fall and was pushed. Which means that R version would probably be the following season. So 25 wsbk would still be the current bike.

The reason to change something that works is that if you zoom out and analyze the time and money that has gone into making a SSSA package work it does not make sense. From a practically stand point a double sided swingarm eliminates SO MANY arbitrary factors to making a package work ie setup. Having eccentric hub alone btw gearing + swingarm is a rabbit hole for setup that has worked for 1 person exceptionally in the last 12 years. All of this is built around a brands design aesthetic - which is beautiful but Ducati has move passed this as being more precious then consistent results now and into the future.
 
Based on the article this will be the reveal for the all new V4 that was supposed to be shown this last fall and was pushed. Which means that R version would probably be the following season. So 25 wsbk would still be the current bike.

The reason to change something that works is that if you zoom out and analyze the time and money that has gone into making a SSSA package work it does not make sense. From a practically stand point a double sided swingarm eliminates SO MANY arbitrary factors to making a package work ie setup. Having eccentric hub alone btw gearing + swingarm is a rabbit hole for setup that has worked for 1 person exceptionally in the last 12 years. All of this is built around a brands design aesthetic - which is beautiful but Ducati has move passed this as being more precious then consistent results now and into the future.

This seems backwards to me put the double-sided swingarm on the R's and leave the single sided on the road bikes. And design it with the ability to use either. Then if you want to run a double sided on your S you can. I like the SSA so what if it weighs a few more pounds. What's next valve springs...
 

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