Akrapovic Exhaust on a Panigale

Duck41 · Oct 21, 2013

bane said:
sorry, i should have expanded a little further. as it was explained to me by my dealer, once we do any changes to the ECU (be it rexxer, power commander, etc) it in effect voids the warranty. in the case of a mechanical/electronic failure, the rep handling a warranty claim will see the after market exhaust, hook the bike up to the computer, and see all the aftermarket changes. again i could be wrong, but this is how it was explained to me.

This is how it was explained to me by my dealer as well. Hopefully we'll see Ducati back this exhaust with an ECU upmap now that they are offering the Akras with the Pani SL.

bane · Oct 22, 2013

bump for update on group buy possibility

Stw · Oct 22, 2013

bane said:
bump for update on group buy possibility

Me and Gunny are working on it... I promise we haven't forgotten...But these things take a little time and we are waiting for a little more info from Akra...

bane · Oct 22, 2013

Stw said:
Me and Gunny are working on it... I promise we haven't forgotten...But these things take a little time and we are waiting for a little more info from Akra...

thanks!

reganc · Oct 22, 2013

bane said:
sorry, i should have expanded a little further. as it was explained to me by my dealer, once we do any changes to the ECU (be it rexxer, power commander, etc) it in effect voids the warranty. in the case of a mechanical/electronic failure, the rep handling a warranty claim will see the after market exhaust, hook the bike up to the computer, and see all the aftermarket changes. again i could be wrong, but this is how it was explained to me.

hearing the exact same thing and i have one on order so if it voids the warranty i will not be going for it.

bane · Oct 22, 2013

an official endorsement from ducati would certainly make this alot easier. oh and maybe a nice discount

Realprop · Oct 22, 2013

Stw said:
Me and Gunny are working on it... I promise we haven't forgotten...But these things take a little time and we are waiting for a little more info from Akra...

Add me to the list guys... I would prefer the matte. If we're requesting those ...

The thing has been in my cart on revzilla for a week now. I'm hoping I can get it just a tad cheaper.

Realprop · Oct 22, 2013

bane said:
an official endorsement from ducati would certainly make this alot easier. oh and maybe a nice discount

I think the writing was on the wall last year when the tremi's went on sale.....

I can only hope the R comes with Akrapovic instead of Termi next year. We'll know soon enough I guess.

Ronin · Oct 22, 2013

reganc said:
hearing the exact same thing and i have one on order so if it voids the warranty i will not be going for it.

Guys i nfactory in slovenia people told me if anythign would have happened they would fix my bike themselves.Now the thing is ducati sells termi and having other exhaust on is bad for termi.

Now you guys tell me how could an akra damage the bike

Ducati handler have specific order to say it,it cannot damage the bike in anyway anyhow its just bla bla bla.They told me in factory in slovenia,IF but that IF is like 0.01% something could be wrong.

Now as for ducati they say akra is just not made like termi etc bla bla bla,ok then why would akra test and make exhaust 2 years for what to get broken down,and not one product from akra had any trouble on any bike

It is about time termi admits along with ducati akra is akra end story.
Its a marketing pull.
All you do put akra upload up-map you are ready to go,and trying both on panigale R.
bike reacts and breathes better with akra and i had no trouble what so ever and i called my friend in development department and he said not one trouble came up since they made the first one.

So guys just go for it dont worry,its not like you puttin on leo vinci cmmon.

Ronin · Oct 22, 2013

Duck41 said:
This is how it was explained to me by my dealer as well. Hopefully we'll see Ducati back this exhaust with an ECU upmap now that they are offering the Akras with the Pani SL.

This is all you people need one question.
Ask ducati store owner etc HOW AND WHY COULD AN AKRA DAMAGE THE ENGINE?????

Answer cause termi is made for ducati what nonsense.I want to see their answers,since dealer i know said they keep telling them termi termi termi and they never say why no akra

Stw · Oct 22, 2013

Ronin said:
This is all you people need one question.
Ask ducati store owner etc HOW AND WHY COULD AN AKRA DAMAGE THE EXHAUST?????

Answer cause termi is made for ducati what nonsense.I want to see their answers,since dealer i know said they keep telling them termi termi termi and they never say why no akra

What tuning/map are you using with your Akra??

reganc · Oct 22, 2013

Ronin said:
Guys i nfactory in slovenia people told me if anythign would have happened they would fix my bike themselves.Now the thing is ducati sells termi and having other exhaust on is bad for termi.

Now you guys tell me how could an akra damage the bike

Ducati handler have specific order to say it,it cannot damage the bike in anyway anyhow its just bla bla bla.They told me in factory in slovenia,IF but that IF is like 0.01% something could be wrong.

Now as for ducati they say akra is just not made like termi etc bla bla bla,ok then why would akra test and make exhaust 2 years for what to get broken down,and not one product from akra had any trouble on any bike

It is about time termi admits along with ducati akra is akra end story.
Its a marketing pull.
All you do put akra upload up-map you are ready to go,and trying both on panigale R.
bike reacts and breathes better with akra and i had no trouble what so ever and i called my friend in development department and he said not one trouble came up since they made the first one.

So guys just go for it dont worry,its not like you puttin on leo vinci cmmon.

Ronin,

I agree with you it's BS and i don't see why it would void the warranty but i don't have the factory beside me should something happen and i am not sure i want to take the chance should my motor blow etc.

I should have a definitive answer today so i'm hoping i can go forward with it.

Ronin · Oct 22, 2013

reganc said:
Ronin,

I agree with you it's BS and i don't see why it would void the warranty but i don't have the factory beside me should something happen and i am not sure i want to take the chance should my motor blow etc.

I should have a definitive answer today so i'm hoping i can go forward with it.

Look guys i nfactory laughed at the things ducati said and said whatever happen we will buy,fix,give you a new bike if anything happens.It is not possible to damage the engine anyhow,its a damm exhaust not a computer or anything.i you do not have factory beside you,but imagine the cost if that start hapening to people i mean cmmon,he is not no.1 exhaust developer in the world for no reason and trust me on it i mean it.You do not know how much they were scaring me about akra etc,but i did not care i know akra is light years beyond termi,i overheard all,and i am happy.
Plus 1098R HAD AKRA FULL 4 YEAR ALL OTHERS HERE FULL AKRAS ON 1098s NOT ONE TROBULE OR COMPLAINT

Ronin · Oct 22, 2013

Stw said:
What tuning/map are you using with your Akra??

The one from termi,plus keep in mind akra developed it with (up-maps + termignoni) and all other things from ducati plus they have had panigale S before any of us did so they took time and made it perfect.Now do you know they tested termi first disasemble original exhaust,termi exhaust check up map and all other stuff to make akraso its jus rubbish it can damage engine what a joke!!!!!!!!!i SEEN ALL THIS STUFF BEFORE EXHAUST WAS MADE IN FACTORY IN PERSONSO I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS IS STATE OF THE ART,EVERY DETAIL CONSIDERED ETC

Why does not akra damage ferrari 459 ITALIA,AUDI R8.lamborghini gallardo LP560,Mercedes AMG,BMW M CARS,PORSCHE TURBO AND A LOT FO OTHERS.
I DID NOT HEAR THERE ANYTHING ABOUT WARRANTY VOID.

Ronin · Oct 22, 2013

reganc said:
Ronin,

I agree with you it's BS and i don't see why it would void the warranty but i don't have the factory beside me should something happen and i am not sure i want to take the chance should my motor blow etc.

I should have a definitive answer today so i'm hoping i can go forward with it.

tHE EXHAUST AND TERMI UP-MAP CANNOT DAMAGE ENGINE!!!!!!!!

NOW IF YOU DO ECU AND GO INTO COMPUTER IN DEPTH DETAIL THAT I DO NOT KNOW,PROBABLY NOT BUT THEY COULD USE IT AS AN EXCUSE FOR VOIDING WARRANTY

reganc · Oct 22, 2013

Ronin said:
tHE EXHAUST AND TERMI UP-MAP CANNOT DAMAGE ENGINE!!!!!!!!

NOW IF YOU DO ECU AND GO INTO COMPUTER IN DEPTH DETAIL THAT I DO NOT KNOW,PROBABLY NOT BUT THEY COULD USE IT AS AN EXCUSE FOR VOIDING WARRANTY

but what if you don't go with the termi upmap as i'm not sure if you can buy separately

Phl · Oct 22, 2013

you can damage a motor by having an exhaust that is too lean, though i doubt that AKRA or any exhaust maker would make that mistake.

even some DIY garage modding guys who core their stock exhaust go check it on a dyno afterwards.

i don't get the whole AKRA vs. TERMI thing??? where did that come from in the first palce and where is Rich when we finally need him

Stw · Oct 22, 2013

Phil said:
i don't get the whole AKRA vs. TERMI thing??? where did that come from in the first place and where is Rich when we finally need him

I think we can handle this debate quite comfortably with out Richs "help"

Duck41 · Oct 22, 2013

Ronin said:
tHE EXHAUST AND TERMI UP-MAP CANNOT DAMAGE ENGINE!!!!!!!!

NOW IF YOU DO ECU AND GO INTO COMPUTER IN DEPTH DETAIL THAT I DO NOT KNOW,PROBABLY NOT BUT THEY COULD USE IT AS AN EXCUSE FOR VOIDING WARRANTY

Yes, the primary issue here seems to reside with the ECU up-map. Based on manufacturer reputation alone, there is very little reason to assume the Akra exhaust would have any negative effects on the mechanical functioning of the bike - particularly to the point of a malfunction, but the overarching concern here is that if some other seemingly unrelated issue arose, it could theoretically give Ducati grounds to deny a warranty claim on the basis that the possibility of the exhaust or ECU up-map playing a contributing role in the malfunction cannot be eliminated.

bane · Oct 22, 2013

Duck41 said:
Yes, the primary issue here seems to reside with the ECU up-map. Based on manufacturer reputation alone, there is very little reason to assume the Akra exhaust would have any negative effects on the mechanical functioning of the bike - particularly to the point of a malfunction, but the overarching concern here is that if some other seemingly unrelated issue arose, it could theoretically give Ducati grounds to deny a warranty claim on the basis that the possibility of the exhaust or ECU up-map playing a contributing role in the malfunction cannot be eliminated.

well said duck. what it really boils down to is how strict a rep will be when evaluating the warranty claim. some may brush it off and be cool about it, or give the same speech my dealer gave

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