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If anyone orders one of these hit me up and I’ll send you a a little video on how to make the Delrin bushings work with it and a link to where to get what you need, night and day difference on how it feels with Delrin bushings versus the squishy rubber bushing it comes with…I went through some trial and error getting it to work but there are a few little things I learned that make it easier…I consider it a must to swap out the bushings, which only cost a few bucks, if you are going to get this piece.
 
Steven31371 said:
If anyone orders one of these hit me up and I’ll send you a a little video on how to make the Delrin bushings work with it and a link to where to get what you need, night and day difference on how it feels with Delrin bushings versus the squishy rubber bushing it comes with…I went through some trial and error getting it to work but there are a few little things I learned that make it easier…I consider it a must to swap out the bushings, which only cost a few bucks, if you are going to get this piece.
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Did you run the Delrin bushing swap or the flexiness of the rubber bushings by Rade Garage? I wonder if there’s a reason they went with rubber instead of Delrin. Or why didn’t they just directly mount the tank/subframe to the adapter plates?
 
SuperDomestique said:
Did you run the Delrin bushing swap or the flexiness of the rubber bushings by Rade Garage? I wonder if there’s a reason they went with rubber instead of Delrin. Or why didn’t they just directly mount the tank/subframe to the adapter plates?
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I test road it with the Delrin bushings. Before that I sat on it and moved around on it on stands with the rubber bushings mounted to the bike.

There’s a sorta heat shield on the stock subframe that transfers to this tank, that you can’t take on or off easily with the tank mounted, so it’s not really feasible have the tank with subframe already installed. It also has rear eccentrics that help change the height of the seat that need to remain adjustible.

None of this would preclude them from just selling it with a properly sized Delrin bushing, which I gave them feedback on.

I think the reason they don’t is either because they work mostly in the rallycross and supermoto sector where those rubber bushings are a benefit absorbing continuous shocks.

Alternatively it’s just about ease of installation, Delrin bushing require a press fit, fairly easy to do but they market this thing as an hour or less switch out that anyone can do with basic tools…and it actually is very easy to install IF you aren’t painting it or trying to fab and press bushings.

Or…they just didn’t think of it…
 
So I got around to weighing the bike today, 395 with a full tank of gas. No surprises there. But the biggest surprise was that the weight distribution shifted to the front of the bike. Before the RD tank install the bike was about 51.5% front and 48.5% rear. With the RD tank it’s about 55% front and 45% rear. I had assumed that it would shift weight backward.
 
baggerman said:
0.0175 x 395 = 6.915 lbs. Or about a gallon of gas. Weird seems like too much.
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The bike was two or three pounds heavier with the old tank that I thought had more fuel capacity, subframe etc., than the RADE setup, which leads me to believe that my eyeball estimate of how much fuel the RADE tank holds was undershot. Because if it were a full gallon less my bike would weigh closer to 390 full wet. I suspect the RADE tank holds pretty close to 4 gallons.

A side note on the fuel situation, I filled the tank up and went for about a 12 mile ride to check some ergo adjustments and the low fuel indicator light came on…but it only needed a half gallon to fill back up. I think the fuel level indicator on the fuel pump might be pressure activated or something and the longer flatter shape of the tank is tricking it into thinking there is less fuel than there is, or maybe the tank foam is affecting it.

Also I might have under estimated the tank capacity for another reason, on the 1st fill up with dry tank foam I think it needed a few minutes for the fuel to ‘settle in’ to all the foam. I just filled it to the top and put the lid on, without looking to see if the dry foam was gunna perfuse more fuel.
 
baggerman said:
0.0175 x 395 = 6.915 lbs. Or about a gallon of gas. Weird seems like too much.
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Ahh I just remembered, we did some geometry changes between those weighs…that may have changed the weight distribution a bit.

In any case, as a bigger rider it might actually be a good thing to be slightly heavier on the front of the bike, because my body weight helps keep the back down in hard braking, but not so much help with wheelie coming off an apex.
 
Steven31371 said:
A side note on the fuel situation, I filled the tank up and went for about a 12 mile ride to check some ergo adjustments and the low fuel indicator light came on…but it only needed a half gallon to fill back up. I think the fuel level indicator on the fuel pump might be pressure activated or something and the longer flatter shape of the tank is tricking it into thinking there is less fuel than there is, or maybe the tank foam is affecting it.

Also I might have under estimated the tank capacity for another reason, on the 1st fill up with dry tank foam I think it needed a few minutes for the fuel to ‘settle in’ to all the foam. I just filled it to the top and put the lid on, without looking to see if the dry foam was gunna perfuse more fuel.
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Interesting. I’d be surprised to learn there’s any “settling in” time with the foam. A simple experiment would confirm - fill to sight line, wait 60 seconds, observe whether or not the level settles.
 
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Steven31371 said:
Ahh I just remembered, we did some geometry changes between those weighs…that may have changed the weight distribution a bit.

In any case, as a bigger rider it might actually be a good thing to be slightly heavier on the front of the bike, because my body weight helps keep the back down in hard braking, but not so much help with wheelie coming off an apex.
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For an interesting data point, you might weigh the bike with you on it and recalculate weight distribution.
 
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craig bush said:
Interesting. I’d be surprised to learn there’s any “settling in” time with the foam. A simple experiment would confirm - fill to sight line, wait 60 seconds, observe whether or not the level settles.
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I hope once it’s wet there is no settle time, but think when it’s dry POSSIBLY there is.

Easy to find out, I have some extra unused foam.
 
New Steering damper came today, Matris.

I never got around to changing the OEM Ohlins E-controlled steering damper.

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I take those off and screw them onto the cooler so it stays open when I'm looking for a beer. That being said I do have one on the 1198. It's a tad twitchy. The rest why add weight?
 
SuperDomestique said:
What was wrong with the electronic one?
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Well for one mine feels like it’s intermittently working…the damping seems to be varying on its own…I looked and found where the wire was being rubbed by one of my reservoir brackets and rubbed through the plastic sheathing on one wire. And the Matris is a better speed sensitive unit, with more accurate adjustability.
 

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