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Anybody using an other than stock steering damper?

What are you using and why?

I’m looking at whether to change mine or not, I’d like to get a bit more damping than what I get out of mine even on the highest setting.

I moved my damper to the side and got a long stroke ohlins damper. It likely doesn't bring much benefit other than being less likely to break in a crash like the OEM one, but it also feels easier to adjust quickly and fine-tune.
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Steven, you dont need it over the stock IMHO. They can give the illusion of stability while the underlying issues remain unaddressed, over damping creates it own set of issues.
I have the stock no name brand on my base and the only time I wished for more was in a 265 kmh tankslapper. I solved that problem by 1. not changing gear over known bumps while leaned over and 2. keeping the power on and loosening the deathgrip.

I dont believe your body mass is a problem in itself, only if it really distorts the front rear balance but that is riding coach material.
 
Steven, you dont need it over the stock IMHO. They can give the illusion of stability while the underlying issues remain unaddressed, over damping creates it own set of issues.
I have the stock no name brand on my base and the only time I wished for more was in a 265 kmh tankslapper. I solved that problem by 1. not changing gear over known bumps while leaned over and 2. keeping the power on and loosening the deathgrip.

I dont believe your body mass is a problem in itself, only if it really distorts the front rear balance but that is riding coach material.
Yup. Like lipstick on a pig.
 
No head shake or tank slapping, it’s more of a poor riding and weight problem…I’m a big guy, who occasionally lets too much of my weight rest on the handle bars…because of my size a little 5-10% extra movement through the arms or body translates more to the front end than if I weighed 150 pounds instead of 250 pounds.

So it’s more of a rider ergonomics thing…I just like a stiffer turning front end that requires a bit more input to turn the front.

It’s not a big issue, just splitting hairs to tweek it a bit better.

Take it for what it’s worth as I am making some assumptions here:

Just my $0.02 but…..

If you used less braking to get your corner speed and lean angle up to a good pace you would probably want to dial out the damping.

I can’t remember ever thinking to myself or hearing anybody at the track say “I wish my bike turned in slower”

You might find that you would be better served by a lot of track time and rider coaching.
 
Take it for what it’s worth as I am making some assumptions here:

Just my $0.02 but…..

If you used less braking to get your corner speed and lean angle up to a good pace you would probably want to dial out the damping.

I can’t remember ever thinking to myself or hearing anybody at the track say “I wish my bike turned in slower”

You might find that you would be better served by a lot of track time and rider coaching.


Agreed to all, but I’m not trying to get it to turn in slower, I’m trying to keep the handlebars a bit more stable and correct for bad form while I improve my form.


And as I said, not a big issue, just a minor thing.
 
As I have said heaps of times, dont worry about the gear details, your bike is state of the art. In the martial arts there is a saying "learn slow use fast" that means doing the basics skillfully, repetitively, under control. I am no riding coach, just a hacker but over the years I have learnt the worst way to improve is going gung ho. Its not about bravery or balls as the young guys like to brag about, its about form. If you get out there and youre a minute slower than the fast guys that is fine, get that coaching we are bleating about and pretty soon you will be going faster and faster, plus youll be enjoying it and not scaring the .... out of yourself. Im raving a bit here but the track becomes a practice arena, every turn, braking point, gearchange is a worked on until all the bits come together smoothly. So what if it takes you 2 years? Part of the challenge is that you have a kick ass bike and its hard on the ego to have people go around the outside; forgetabout it and focus on what the coach is telling you and you'll soon be lapping the gung ho riders.
Steven would like to buy speed. Recipe for disaster.
 
it's not like any of us are riding these bikes near their limit. Some guys buy watches... others buy bikes.

Who are the guys who are? WSBK racers? MotoGP racers? MotoAmerica racers? CCS or WERA racers? BSB Racers? Any track day goers?
 
idk... the ecu and forks alone are around $5k. Then there's the shock and loads of other parts + some support is mentioned.

I'm intrigued.

I agree - it’s a reasonable value. I’m just saying it’s not some crazy, smoking deal.

New R1’s are available for $17k. $13k in mods goes a long way. The big-ticket items are Ohlins suspension ($4k), ecu/harness ($1-2k), exhaust ($2k), and bodywork ($1k). $3-4k left to complete bolt-ons. Give or take.
 
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I agree - it’s a reasonable value. I’m just saying it’s not some crazy, smoking deal.

New R1’s are available for $17k. $13k in mods goes a long way. The big-ticket items are Ohlins suspension ($4k), ecu/harness ($1-2k), exhaust ($2k), and bodywork ($1k). $3-4k left to complete bolt-ons. Give or take.


I’m thinking of it being a good deal in more of a macro sense….to me that bike looks as sexy as any Ducati with that livery….and from a performance standpoint you’d be looking at $50k to $70k to build a similar performance level Ducati
 

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