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The Sicoms feel more like the yellow line I drew here compared to other Versrah ramp up profiles.
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I have an Alpinestars Atem V4 suit and it has hip protectors, not air bag, but something. I never take off the top half of my suit either, as it's the hardest part for me to get back on. I just unzip the chest and sleeves.
I've never gotten a good fit from Dianese, and they don't make a boot size to fit a US 14. I'm a knob and I like my stuff to match and not look all piecemeal.
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If you mean the under headstock pin, I find under fork stands much better for getting my front warmer on. No fiddling about getting the pin into the headstock or scratching the front mudguard. Obviously not suitable for all maintenance tasks, and you need both long term really, but 3 seconds to lift the front in the pit garage is so simple.
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Nice geetech stands. Wish they were more readily available… If you have a rear gretech do you notice any flex/instabilty?
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I do. Works very well. I have GeeTech front, rear, under headstock and footrest stands. PM me if you want his (UK) mobile number.
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1y into TechAir 10 ownership, and first under suit air bag system for me, used a Spidi vest prior.
First 6 months was frustrating just on the tech side, would only charge from the specific USB-C that came with it (WTF?), failed to connect to the app quite often, when it did connect it said there was an update, get to 2% completed then fail. Sent it back under warranty and got it back with the update done, took about 7 days turnaround, connects reliably to the app when plugged in, but still only charges with one specific cable/charge set up.
I can get the system worn and under my suit, on/off with no assistance, but my Alpinestar suit was a hair big on me then I lost a little weight which helps get the shoulders free.
If I had to do it again I would go for a system that zips into the suit, the vinyl bladder always being pressed to my chest is a bit much in hot weather. I’ll reward myself with that when I drop a full suit size, otherwise sticking with it.
First 6 months was frustrating just on the tech side, would only charge from the specific USB-C that came with it (WTF?), failed to connect to the app quite often, when it did connect it said there was an update, get to 2% completed then fail. Sent it back under warranty and got it back with the update done, took about 7 days turnaround, connects reliably to the app when plugged in, but still only charges with one specific cable/charge set up.
I can get the system worn and under my suit, on/off with no assistance, but my Alpinestar suit was a hair big on me then I lost a little weight which helps get the shoulders free.
If I had to do it again I would go for a system that zips into the suit, the vinyl bladder always being pressed to my chest is a bit much in hot weather. I’ll reward myself with that when I drop a full suit size, otherwise sticking with it.
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@Steven31371 Did you get any pricing from the Vircos/Revit tech air compatible suits? A*s went bananas post covid, for what they are asking for their kangaroo suits custom can’t be far off.
EDIT: Just saw 2,899 euros…not bad
EDIT: Just saw 2,899 euros…not bad
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Yeah less than my Dianese and hopefully a better product.
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You say that, and I can only take your word for it until OPP gets me my EVO (kinda annoying, I messaged them asking what the lead time is and they said they had it in stock ready to ship but a week later it still hasn’t shipped.) I believe you that it feels better than the Corsa Corta, that’s why I bought it. But I disagree with you from direct experience that the Corsa Corta is “no better than the OEM Brembo) that may be true from a build quality standpoint, but from a brake feel standpoint the Corsa Corta is MILES ahead of the stock OEM unit. The latter is so spongy it’s unusable for me.
I’m actually expecting a smaller gap between the EVO Radial and the 17RCS Corsa Corta than the gap between the Corsa Corta and the OEM unit…hopefully I’m surprised in a good way there.
I’m not gunna take the bike apart until the Kramer gets here, so my next track day will be on the V4…will get to try that MC out. Might put it on the Kramer too
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You say that, and I can only take your word for it until OPP gets me my EVO (kinda annoying, I messaged them asking what the lead time is and they said they had it in stock ready to ship but a week later it still hasn’t shipped.) I believe you that it feels better than the Corsa Corta, that’s why I bought it. But I disagree with you from direct experience that the Corsa Corta is “no better than the OEM Brembo) that may be true from a build quality standpoint, but from a brake feel standpoint the Corsa Corta is MILES ahead of the stock OEM unit. The latter is so spongy it’s unusable for me.
I’m actually expecting a smaller gap between the EVO Radial and the 17RCS Corsa Corta than the gap between the Corsa Corta and the OEM unit…hopefully I’m surprised in a good way there.
I’m not gunna take the bike apart until the Kramer gets here, so my next track day will be on the V4…will get to try that MC out. Might put it on the Kramer too
Here's the thing, master cylinders are not a choose your own adventure performance part. The RCS + RCS CC are offered as product that is an affordable upgrade from OEM but honestly the make is not better then oem and it just adds some knobs to twist... The first upgrade from oem should be the billet product: XR0.11.72 19x20 // XR0.11.71 19x18 // XR0.11.70 19x16 there is no 19x17 as I mentioned when @Steven31371 was discussing his master. OPP is one of those outfits that says they have everything in stock but it's BS because they don't shelf 2k masters. They just contact Race Technologies who is US BREMBO dist, and see if they have in stock - which often on the top end kit is 50/50. I just ordered a complete thumb brake setup and fortunately they had everything in stock but they said they didn't think they would have it.
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Man not everybody has the same amount of disposable income, and whether the build quality is better or not, the RCS Corsa Corta stuff (possibly because of those knobs twist) is a night and day ‘affordable’ improvement over the OEM unit in actual usage.
On paper maybe they are the same quality and there is no significant difference on manufacturing quality, but in real life usage, completely different unit. It’s a VERY good lower cost improvements on the bike, I’d say bang for the buck one if the best upgrades you can do to the bike.
Sure there are much higher quality units with the associated price tag, and if it’s in your budget to get them do so…but it’s inaccurate to say that the RCS Corsa Corta stuff is no better than the OEM stuff, in my direct personal experience it’s miles better than OEM in actual use if not spec on paper.
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The billet parts I mentioned above are $600 - that is really fair price for a considerable step in performance. The reasonable brake upgrade formula is:
+Remove ABS (on Ducatis not even necessary, all other bikes mandatory)
+Brake lines
+Brake pads
+Master
that's it.
Look at Pirros bike - oem calipers/no abs/$600 billet master/pads
On Pecco + Bez stockers they have GP spec masters (which is same tier as XA7G7D0)/forks have 108mm bottom to hold proper 108 calipers (not sure the part #, but not WSBK spec)/Z04s they will burn 3-4 sets in one day
Let's not forget that brake "feel" is subjective. So I can def say the RCS + RCS CC are no better then OEM because I have used them and that is my feeling. You can say they are way better because you too have used them and that is your feeling.
I never mean to come onto your thread and sound like a .... but I am always just communicating what my experiences have taught me riding these bikes that we love. And I have gone to the depths of all these rabbit holes of building bikes, and still do. I told myself I wasn't going to do anything to my bike this winter, yet here I am doing things that are not really necessary. But having had the V4R 19/20 + 23/24 let me know if you want any info and how to build it. It will be terse info like DO NOT PUT THAT PLASTIC TANK ON A STUNNING RACE BIKE hahahahah but setup wise I have a good grasp on it.
+Remove ABS (on Ducatis not even necessary, all other bikes mandatory)
+Brake lines
+Brake pads
+Master
that's it.
Look at Pirros bike - oem calipers/no abs/$600 billet master/pads
On Pecco + Bez stockers they have GP spec masters (which is same tier as XA7G7D0)/forks have 108mm bottom to hold proper 108 calipers (not sure the part #, but not WSBK spec)/Z04s they will burn 3-4 sets in one day
Let's not forget that brake "feel" is subjective. So I can def say the RCS + RCS CC are no better then OEM because I have used them and that is my feeling. You can say they are way better because you too have used them and that is your feeling.
I never mean to come onto your thread and sound like a .... but I am always just communicating what my experiences have taught me riding these bikes that we love. And I have gone to the depths of all these rabbit holes of building bikes, and still do. I told myself I wasn't going to do anything to my bike this winter, yet here I am doing things that are not really necessary. But having had the V4R 19/20 + 23/24 let me know if you want any info and how to build it. It will be terse info like DO NOT PUT THAT PLASTIC TANK ON A STUNNING RACE BIKE hahahahah but setup wise I have a good grasp on it.
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Really?? That’s humbling.
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I have resisisted the whole 17 RCS upgrade because I know of at least 2 people who have said that they don't feel any improvement over stock, so I am inclined to think that, when bled properly, the standard cylinder is OK. Good, but not great.
But the Pirro setup is using the 19 mm bore, which, popular wisdom says, gives a wooden feel. Does the x16, x17, x18 lever ratio help to mitigate this?
I would love a billet cylinder, but on a bike with ABS and standard Stylemas, track only, would a 19 mm be OK if I wanted a firmer lever, better fl and more consistency?
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