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ive got the 17 RCS having had the 19 RCS. I use Z04 pads in the st callipers, kept the ABS front only. Ive also run separate brake lines from the ABS unit too. Dot 5 fluid.

the 19 is too wooden in 18 or 20 ratio

the 17 is superb in 20 ratio

Of course bleeding them correctly is a must.

I tried both at portimao!
 
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I plan on running Brembo low viscosity when I get around to flushing the brake/clutch this spring. I think this will help the stock system. Viscosity seems to be about half of the stock Shell DOT4. I don't feel any mushiness when the brakes are warm-hot out on track. I only notice the mushiness when it's cool and worsens in winter months.
 
andyb said:
ive got the 17 RCS having had the 19 RCS. I use Z04 pads in the st callipers, kept the ABS front only. Ive also run separate brake lines from the ABS unit too. Dot 5 fluid.

the 19 is too wooden in 18 or 20 ratio

the 17 is superb in 20 ratio

Of course bleeding them correctly is a must.

I tried both at portimao!
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Yeah I had good results with the RCS 17 set to essentially the specs as the 17 EVO Radial…i.e. with the 20 ratio, on R setting, with the lever position right where I want it with that adjuster.

I was happy enough with the setup that the only reason I’m switching to the EVO RADIAL GP MC is because the specs on piston diameter and ratio on it are where i had the 17 RCS CC set to anyway…so it’s a better unit with the same overall setup I’m already running and like.
 
cl955 said:
I have resisisted the whole 17 RCS upgrade because I know of at least 2 people who have said that they don't feel any improvement over stock, so I am inclined to think that, when bled properly, the standard cylinder is OK. Good, but not great.

But the Pirro setup is using the 19 mm bore, which, popular wisdom says, gives a wooden feel. Does the x16, x17, x18 lever ratio help to mitigate this?
I would love a billet cylinder, but on a bike with ABS and standard Stylemas, track only, would a 19 mm be OK if I wanted a firmer lever, better fl and more consistency?
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Yeah, many people prefer the firmer pull. I ran the XA7G7G0 and didn't hate it, but prefer the 17 now.
 
I'm not well convinced it is. I think that's old logic or that carried over from other platforms. The OEM master is 16mm with a longer lever to accommodate fitting to the bar with the OEM switchgear and throttle housing. I think those reasons are the primary thing affecting the lever feel all of which is a design choice by Ducati.
 
Ducati has to accommodate 100 lb women. I put an RCS on the 1198. Didn't find any improvement. You have to consider the whole thing including where you hand naturally goes to on the lever. Moving the dip in the lever (since thats where the force is being applied) in or out relative to the plane of the bar is in effect like changing the pivot ratio. Want the master firmer move your hand in towards the reservoir. I'm OK with the stock masters but I constantly bleed them.
 
So Vircos got bought out by or merged with Rev’it suites. The new company is called Rev’it Tailortech.

Anyone have experience with Rev’it?

They look like cheap suites to me.
 

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This suite, which is their top end version now, does not look good to me, less stretch panels, the hump looks poorly done etc.

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that's great but they sold + folded so...
It's an interesting biz segment inside Moto, the work that goes into making these seems very high so I am always shocked at how many small outfits there are regionally around the globe. I see loads of other brands at the, rarely do they look decent
 
I did tell the sales rep that I wasn’t interested in a Rev’it suit and if he could still make me a Vircos, he said he would get back to me tomorrow.
 

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