Ducati Panigale V4 25th Anniversario 916

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I'm not going to argue with your logic but I'd like to point out a couple of things.

1) I have ridden the V4R and the V4S back to back for about 20 miles each. I don't need to go into detail as others have done a better job but I found the V4R to be a superior bike in several key areas.

2) This is supposed to be the anniversary of the 916, one of the- if not THE- most important and iconic racing bike in Ducati history. You're going to slap the 916 name on as lower tier model, give it a neat paint job, put on the dry clutch, and call that "special?" Sorry, that's not right.

If you wanted a V4S all along and didn't want the Speciale (which are much cheaper on the used market right now, by the way) and this is more to your liking then I have no problem with that.

However, if you have an affinity for the 916 gen SPS, Corsa, and R models like I have then this bike falls so short of what I was so ready to buy. And they didn't have to reinvent the wheel. All they needed to do was a V4R motor, frame and suspension, gold magnesium wheels, this same painted S bodywork, and a race kit like what came with my superleggera. They could have done all of that for 40k and I would have taken the first one to hit US shores. Depreciation be damned. It would be an epic bike to own and ride and I'd have a very high spec V4 that I could pile up miles on and enjoy owning for years and years.

Instead, it's nothing worthy of a 916 Anniversary name and nothing close to a suitable "Fogarty edition," in my opinion (and my bank account's opinion). They dumbed it down instead of making it what it should have been.

Look, as I said, I have the right to change my mind later but at this point I think I am going to stay on the sidelines and hope Ducati makes something better.

Agreed on your first point for sure, no question the V4R is superior in pretty much every way. Only reason I prefer an S is longer term maintenance and reliability of a "less strung out" motor. I will USE this bike and rack up miles, it's not going to be a collector item for me.

Other points.. I mostly agree, for my own personal liking, I prefer the aesthetics and expected package of the Foggy over Speciale and Corsa. I am glad it is just an S motor though :D
 
PS.. I'm glad you all don't like it. Hopefully I can negotiate a better discount since there will plenty of the 500 sitting around :D
 
Agreed on your first point for sure, no question the V4R is superior in pretty much every way. Only reason I prefer an S is longer term maintenance and reliability of a "less strung out" motor. I will USE this bike and rack up miles, it's not going to be a collector item for me.

Other points.. I mostly agree, for my own personal liking, I prefer the aesthetics and expected package of the Foggy over Speciale and Corsa. I am glad it is just an S motor though :D

I think you made a great point and while i would personally prefer a more track bike focused machine i think you are the larger market.
 
PS.. I'm glad you all don't like it. Hopefully I can negotiate a better discount since there will plenty of the 500 sitting around :D

hahaha I like the look, and i don't think they will have any trouble selling them.
 
My local dealer just confirmed that it's the 1103cc motor.

So it's basically a V4S with a paint scheme, some nice Rizoma parts, dry clutch and the magnesium wheels. I reckon it looks really good, but not sold on that exhaust.
 
It’s turned out nice, I sort of get the whole concept of it.

I actually had my name on one, but I was expecting a model like a superleggra type of spec.

As nice as this is, is not worth losing on my Speciale to buy it, so I’m out.

They’ll sell easily though it’s a beautiful concept. If I was buying now, I would buy this.
 
Yeah I sort of get the concept , but no one on the street will and every non moto person will need to have the owner explain what a 916 was and why it on a 1103cc v4- to them .
Oh yeah and ducati builds a 959 now thats kinda like the 916

good looking though
 
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well, at least i have the helmet; that's a start. :D
 
Nope. It is definitely a skewed ratio on the R on a "per part" basis but overall they're not losing money. Their margins are solid on the R. There are definitely parts that are way beyond the norm (In the engine in particular) but they offset that with a ton of cheap parts throughout in order to maintain a near standard margin. I do have a little inside info on the pricing of that model and I know there's a change coming.

I do know that to make the bike I proposed, it would be a seriously reduced margin for them but that's sort of the point - a real reward for they're most loyal customers.

And honestly, I am sort of on the fence about the R motor for a street bike. I could take it or leave it as I would use it mostly for mountain canyon riding. The rest of the V4R, chassis-wise, is sublime, however, and that's the part that this bike should have had from the beginning.

This ! - The many, fairly cheap parts was the major turn-off for me deciding against the V4R. It is simply not premium enough for what it is supposed to be.

In regards to the V4 25 Anniversary 916, if it was actually a merge between the V4R and the future (may to-be) V4SL, - it would be awesome - but very costly for sure...
 
The Foggy looks cool I be a bit annoyed with them throwing a dry clutch in it. Since the dry clutch was supposed to be exclusive to the R.
And a 2020 R1M is almost 10 grand more than the base 2020 R1 which is 17400.00. yikes!!! Thats ridiculous
 

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