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Hi SickDuc,
I am glad that you find some useful information from this thread.
Please kindly feel free to share information from your experience modifying your bike, I am sure I can learn a lot from you :D



Sunday evening update :D
It's amazing how Freight Forwarding companies like FedEx and also Amazon direct delivery now works on 4th of July and on Sunday. I guess the market is a very strong force :p
So yesterday, during the 4th of July FedEx still work and deliver part of my Goodridge Shadow Series Banjo Adapters order from Summit Racing. One of the banjo adapter below is for the Oberon Clutch Line.
Initially, I want to purchase the Stainless Steel (with Stainless finish) for this banjo adapters, however, only the Shadow Series (Black color) came in the 15Degree angle which I think will fit the ABS line better.
Plus this Shadow Series is also made from Stainless Steel so I decide this is actually better. It will also give good contrast to the ProTi Banjo Bolts (or in the Oberon Case, Stahlbus banjo/bleeder combo).
On Monday, the rest of my Banjo Adapter order from Summit Racing should arrived, and I will take picture to show how it will be oriented on the ABS.
Some of you might ask, why don't just use the "crimped" style connection? Well, I plan to use the crimped connection only when the banjo moves (like on the front caliper and on the front master cylinders).
But on the static connection like on the Oberon clutch slave cylinder or on the ABS, I want to use this banjo adapter so I can use the "SWIVEL" Female 3AN connector. This way, the other end of the hose with the crimped banjo can have their "orientation" easily adjusted :D
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A few days ago, I dig into my old treasures to find what or if any Goodridge parts (from my past Brembo upgrade for my Honda Fit) that I can use and turn out, I have a collections of brand new Cooper Washer and aluminum.
What really caught my eyes was some of the cooper washer are not shiny, while the other one is very shiny:
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Then, I realize, I also still need to POLISH my upcoming Cooper Nickel Hardline not to mention polishing the rear suspension bracket/link before they undergo Gold Anodizing.
I checked with a local shop and the rate is $125 per hour which I am sure is a normal rate, however, I decided to just bought all the sanding wheel, polishing compound etc and will do the polishing myself, so I can learn how to polish metal :D
So I order them from Amazon Friday evening, and it already arrive today (Sunday).... there are some more polishing compound on the way, but I can't wait to start polishing (including those cooper washer).
They will be so shiny, my smiley emoji will need to wear Dark Glasses :cool: hahaha

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And wait, there is a bit more...
So I had bought all the ProTi Titanium KIT for my bike, and now I am still buying more bolts from ProTi, to also replace the bolts that ProTi did not sell as a kit...
However, I do have some bolts that I did not use from the ProTi kit because I have further customization. For example there is an M6x20mm ProTi titanium in silver that was part of the rear brake reservoir kit, and I had been trying to find any location that can use this bolt, and I finally found one.

There is one single bolt that hold the braided oil line from the oil cooler, and I was hoping it is an M6 with 20mm in length. So I took it out and turn out it is M6x20mm (with the regular hex socket head).
I was so excited, but then all my socket tools bit for TORX T-30 are too long, and the space in that area is very limited (due to the front exhaust manifold) to install the ProTi bolts using my regular socket bit, so I was unable to tighten the bolt...
This was on Friday evening, and I decided to also order a manual TORX T-30 wrench and Amazon also deliver them today, so I manage to use it:
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And this is the result:
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I also found some TORX T-30 super short socket and I ordered them today (not arrived yet). hopefully this super short T-30 socket will allow me to use my torque wrench to tightened this bolt to 10Nm. At this moment, it is tightened by my hand...
just want to make sure :D

This 4th of July weekend had been a very productive weekend, however, more parts and modification coming soon :p
Try Solvol Autosol great for polishing metal
They have some different products
 
Both the ChaseBay F shape distribution block and the rest of the Goodridge Shadow Line Banjo Adapters arrived today.
The ChaseBay F shape distribution block is VERY compact and perfect to be place on the original location above the radiator.
It also came with 2 Female Tube Nuts and the inserts in case you want to plumb a hardline tubing to it.
Both pictures shows the size in both cm (metric) and inches to illustrate how compact it is:

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This is the location where I will make some kind of bracket to hold it just above the radiator (like the plastic bracket that hold the original steel hardline):
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Here is the rest of the goodridge banjo adapters:
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And now, please pay attention to their location on the ABS module:
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I am start taking measurement for the Goodridge Flexible 700 Series Aramid Hose using a flexible measuring tape so I can fully follow the plan "contour" of the hose:
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about half an hour later, I already have the measurements of all the flexible braided line and ready to order it. Once they arrive, then I can "Adjust" the hardline measurement by cutting the hardline (and bending it) myself.
Of course you can also just copy the length from the original Ducati brake line, but I want to modify it so it will have more sections using hardline and as less as possible of flexible line because the flexible line, no matter how good they are will have more "expansion effect" under full pressure thus giving less firm feeling, especially since our bike have a LONG LONG line back and forth to the ABS.

Below is the bill of material (BOM) for the Goodridge 700 series Aramid braided lines and using all stainless fitting. (the latest letter on the part# C means Stainless, while CBK means Stainless Black Shadow line)
Some of the fitting only available in C (Stainless Steel).

a. From ABS terminal to the hardline that goes to the Rear Master Cylinder
90 degree Forged Female Connector, S6090-03C with hose length of 8cm (centimeters, because I am from Metric world :p), and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

b. From Rear Master Cylinder to the hardline that goes to ABS terminal
70 degree Banjo with Extended Neck, S5070-03CBK with hose length of 14cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

c. From ABS terminal to the hardline that goes to the Rear CALIPER
90 degree Forged Female Connector, S6090-03C with hose length of 19cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

d. Flexible hose at the swing arm pivot
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 16cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

e. Final Flexible hose that connect to the Staubli Quick Dry connector at the Rear Caliper
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 14cm, and Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK

f. From ABS terminal to hardline that goes to Front Master cylinder
Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK with hose length of 10cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

g. From RCS17 Corsa Corta Front Master Cylinder to the hardline that goes to ABS terminal
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 21cm, and 45 degree Banjo with extended neck S5094-03CBK

h. From ABS terminal to hardline that goes to ChaseBay "F" distribution block
45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector S6045-03C with hose length of 3cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

i. Clutch line
Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK with hose length of 88cm and 2 rubber grommet, and 45 degree Banjo Extended Neck S5094-03CBK

The only 2 lines that I had not included in the bill of material above are the 2 final lines from the ChaseBay "F" connector to the front left and right caliper,
because I want to bolted the ChaseBay "F" connector with a bracket first before I measure the ideal length of the hose that will goes to the Left and Right Staubli Quick Dry connector and then to the Front Calipers.
However, I already know the end fitting of both which will be

45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector S6045-03C with 1 rubber grommet on each hose and ended with Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK that will connect to the Staubli.


Ok, now all I need to do is get a quote from Goodridge because all the connections above are secured using Crimping style and I don't want to spent a few thousand dollars to purchase crimping machine :p
I could build all the hose above myself, but then I got to use the 600 series regular stainless steel braided use and use the "reusable" crimping end fitting. Since for this build I am determined to use the 700 series Aramid Fiber hose which only accept crimping to secure it to their fitting, so I got to pay Goodridge to build all the hoses above for me.

I also need to place an order for the Cooper Nickel hard tubing (which is cheap), but all the tooling needed,
It will cost me about $1,000 for the cooper nickel hard tubing and all the tooling (Earl's flared tooling alone is already almost $500).
I want to buy the best and most versatile tooling so I can use it for future brake line projects (not that I plan to do any right now :D)


oh, last, I found that the most flexible banjo shape to use for the RCS Corsa Corta master cylinder would be a 45 degree banjo, which I found by simulation using the 45 degree Goodridge Banjo adapter that I have (ignore the Stalhbus banjo bleeder in this picture, I just use it to secure the 45 degree banjo when I was doing the simulation):
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Both the ChaseBay F shape distribution block and the rest of the Goodridge Shadow Line Banjo Adapters arrived today.
The ChaseBay F shape distribution block is VERY compact and perfect to be place on the original location above the radiator.
It also came with 2 Female Tube Nuts and the inserts in case you want to plumb a hardline tubing to it.
Both pictures shows the size in both cm (metric) and inches to illustrate how compact it is:

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This is the location where I will make some kind of bracket to hold it just above the radiator (like the plastic bracket that hold the original steel hardline):
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Here is the rest of the goodridge banjo adapters:
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And now, please pay attention to their location on the ABS module:
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I am start taking measurement for the Goodridge Flexible 700 Series Aramid Hose using a flexible measuring tape so I can fully follow the plan "contour" of the hose:
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about half an hour later, I already have the measurements of all the flexible braided line and ready to order it. Once they arrive, then I can "Adjust" the hardline measurement by cutting the hardline (and bending it) myself.
Of course you can also just copy the length from the original Ducati brake line, but I want to modify it so it will have more sections using hardline and as less as possible of flexible line because the flexible line, no matter how good they are will have more "expansion effect" under full pressure thus giving less firm feeling, especially since our bike have a LONG LONG line back and forth to the ABS.

Below is the bill of material (BOM) for the Goodridge 700 series Aramid braided lines and using all stainless fitting. (the latest letter on the part# C means Stainless, while CBK means Stainless Black Shadow line)
Some of the fitting only available in C (Stainless Steel).

a. From ABS terminal to the hardline that goes to the Rear Master Cylinder
90 degree Forged Female Connector, S6090-03C with hose length of 8cm (centimeters, because I am from Metric world :p), and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

b. From Rear Master Cylinder to the hardline that goes to ABS terminal
70 degree Banjo with Extended Neck, S5070-03CBK with hose length of 14cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

c. From ABS terminal to the hardline that goes to the Rear CALIPER
90 degree Forged Female Connector, S6090-03C with hose length of 19cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

d. Flexible hose at the swing arm pivot
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 16cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

e. Final Flexible hose that connect to the Staubli Quick Dry connector at the Rear Caliper
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 14cm, and Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK

f. From ABS terminal to hardline that goes to Front Master cylinder
Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK with hose length of 10cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

g. From RCS17 Corsa Corta Front Master Cylinder to the hardline that goes to ABS terminal
Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C with hose length of 21cm, and 45 degree Banjo with extended neck S5094-03CBK

h. From ABS terminal to hardline that goes to ChaseBay "F" distribution block
45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector S6045-03C with hose length of 3cm, and Female Metric Concave Swivel S451-31C

i. Clutch line
Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK with hose length of 88cm and 2 rubber grommet, and 45 degree Banjo Extended Neck S5094-03CBK

The only 2 lines that I had not included in the bill of material above are the 2 final lines from the ChaseBay "F" connector to the front left and right caliper,
because I want to bolted the ChaseBay "F" connector with a bracket first before I measure the ideal length of the hose that will goes to the Left and Right Staubli Quick Dry connector and then to the Front Calipers.
However, I already know the end fitting of both which will be

45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector S6045-03C with 1 rubber grommet on each hose and ended with Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK that will connect to the Staubli.


Ok, now all I need to do is get a quote from Goodridge because all the connections above are secured using Crimping style and I don't want to spent a few thousand dollars to purchase crimping machine :p
I could build all the hose above myself, but then I got to use the 600 series regular stainless steel braided use and use the "reusable" crimping end fitting. Since for this build I am determined to use the 700 series Aramid Fiber hose which only accept crimping to secure it to their fitting, so I got to pay Goodridge to build all the hoses above for me.

I also need to place an order for the Cooper Nickel hard tubing (which is cheap), but all the tooling needed,
It will cost me about $1,000 for the cooper nickel hard tubing and all the tooling (Earl's flared tooling alone is already almost $500).
I want to buy the best and most versatile tooling so I can use it for future brake line projects (not that I plan to do any right now :D)


oh, last, I found that the most flexible banjo shape to use for the RCS Corsa Corta master cylinder would be a 45 degree banjo, which I found by simulation using the 45 degree Goodridge Banjo adapter that I have (ignore the Stalhbus banjo bleeder in this picture, I just use it to secure the 45 degree banjo when I was doing the simulation):
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BMW Alpina
I am looking forward to seeing this Goodridge aramid fibre line next to the copper line. I am busy doing a massive clean of the car garage and checking out your post while having a break. Would rather be working on a bike than cleaning the garage. You are finding some interesting pieces and great leads on equipment for others.
 
BMW Alpina
I am looking forward to seeing this Goodridge aramid fibre line next to the copper line. I am busy doing a massive clean of the car garage and checking out your post while having a break. Would rather be working on a bike than cleaning the garage. You are finding some interesting pieces and great leads on equipment for others.

Hi Brad,
Thanks for your kind words. Do you remember that you also gave me a very valuable information regarding the Titanium Ducati Radiator Cap for the 1199 Superleggera 1.5 months ago?
Well, that Titanium radiator cap is finally on the way (still with DHL) and hopefully arrive this week :D

I can't wait to received it and I will always remember, that it was you who gave me the information on this Ducati Radiator Cap...and also the idea of a carbon fiber bracket for the horn and a better sounding/lighter horn and more...

Thanks so much Brad. :D
 
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:)great stuff! also look fwd to see it finished, and more info and pics when you intall that cb connector. Any chance you can measure the full lengths of the lines whilst you are there, would be very useful to know in case i have to order some lines without the originals.;):)
 
WOW. This is involved. I’ll admit the ProTi banjos look better than the hex banjos. Are all those black fittings you are using steel or aluminum? I re-lined my first 1299 in 2015. It came out nice but I soon scrapped everything. looking forward to your finished system.
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:)great stuff! also look fwd to see it finished, and more info and pics when you install that cb connector. Any chance you can measure the full lengths of the lines whilst you are there, would be very useful to know in case i have to order some lines without the originals.;):)

Hi Chris320,

I actually already measured the total length of all the lines earlier today and make a note, I need those total length so I can calculate the required hard line length. (just for approximation)

I did not posted it here because I never thought anyone would be interested :p
(oh, the value below is for the full line length meaning combination/total length of hard line and braided line but did NOT include the banjo length because the proper way to measure the hose (according to Goodridge) is from around the place where you "CUT" the hose. plus those banjo are not all "straight banjo"
Here is the explanation on how to calculate the hose from Goodridge website (which accurate if you are using straight banjo only though) : Buildaline

Back to the total length, here they are:
Line from Rear Master Cylinder to the ABS module = 48cm
Line from ABS module to the Rear Caliper = 130cm
Line from ABS module to Front Master Cylinder = 58cm
Line from ABS module to the Right Front Caliper = 86cm
Line from Right to Left Front Caliper = 35cm
Clutch Line = 83 cm
Also you might want to add 2 or 3cm extra for a bit more "slack". :D
 
WOW. This is involved. I’ll admit the ProTi banjos look better than the hex banjos. Are all those black fittings you are using steel or aluminum? I re-lined my first 1299 in 2015. It came out nice but I soon scrapped everything. looking forward to your finished system.
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Hello Endodoc,

All those black banjos adapter are Goodridge Stainless Steel Shadow Line (Black finish). NO Aluminum fittings are allowed here :D
Well, except the Aluminum Chase Bay "F" shape distributor since those will be securely mounted, plus the 3 brake line coming into it acting as further bracing,
and the Aluminum Staubli's since those are obviously engineered (meaning shape/thickness/diameter) differently.

When I was selling Goodridge decades ago, I never spec aluminum banjos adapter (in braking application) for my customer even when they asked me too.

Initially, I was thinking of buying the Stainless Steel finish Goodridge Banjo Adapter, but one of those came only in 20 degree, and I found the Shadow Line banjos came with 15 degree angle.
Thus meaning less protruding on the ABS module.
Then I also realized the Black Banjo Adapter finish will provide great contrast between the Stainless Steel surface background of the ABS module and the Titanium Silver of the ProTi,
not to mention in between those black banjo, will be POLISHED Copper Washer. This will make great color combination.

While I am here might as well post the part# for everyone that is interested to use this,
so here are the Goodridge Banjo's adapter Part# used on the ABS module (note the "CBK" on the part number means C(Stainless Steel) BK(Black)):

a. Part#B593-03CBK, Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters, 15 degree, Stainless Steel, Black, 10mm Banjo, -3 AN Male Threads,
Qty needed 2 pieces for the 2 right ports on the ABS module that goes to the rear braking system
Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters B593-03CBK

b. Part#B597-03CBK, Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters, 15 degree/Side Bend, Stainless Steel, Black, 10mm Banjo, -3 AN Male Threads,
Qty needed 1 pieces for the second port from the left on the ABS module that goes to front Master Cylinder
Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters B597-03CBK

c. Part#B592-03CBK, Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters, Straight, Stainless Steel, Black, 10mm Banjo, -3 AN Male Threads,
Qty needed 1 pieces for the first port from the left on the ABS module that goes to the front Caliper
Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters B592-03CBK

d. Part#B594-03CBK, Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters, 45 degree, Stainless Steel, Black, 10mm Banjo, -3 AN Male Threads,
Qty needed 1 pieces for the Oberon Clutch Slave Cylinder
Goodridge Shadow Universal Adapters B594-03CBK
 
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Good call. I’m not a fan of aluminum in brake lines except as noted when necessary. I try to stick with Aeroquip and Earls as it’s basically free to me and the Aeroquip stuff is NAS spec. Not the lightest or cheapest solution but the reusable SS fittings are bulletproof. for lines that require a traditional banjo, I order them from Core as they have Ti banjos. I order a longer than needed line with the banjo on one end and nothing on the other that way I can terminate the line to spec and with whatever connector I need on the other end. I get exactly what I need and don’t have to pre measure and hope it’s correct. Keep up the nice work.
 
Good call. I’m not a fan of aluminum in brake lines except as noted when necessary. I try to stick with Aeroquip and Earls as it’s basically free to me and the Aeroquip stuff is NAS spec. Not the lightest or cheapest solution but the reusable SS fittings are bulletproof. for lines that require a traditional banjo, I order them from Core as they have Ti banjos. I order a longer than needed line with the banjo on one end and nothing on the other that way I can terminate the line to spec and with whatever connector I need on the other end. I get exactly what I need and don’t have to pre measure and hope it’s correct. Keep up the nice work.

Thank You endodoc,
The Goodridge 700 series Aramid hose can't used reusable fitting, only crimped, otherwise, I would prefer to build the fitting myself (more fun and no Goodridge UK labor cost).
I just took another pictures with better angle to show the "gradient" of color from stainless steel ABS module background to polished cooper washer, to black banjo, to polished cooper washer again and cap with the Titanium Silver from ProTi.
also note the Goodridge Female Connector -3AN will be Stainless Steel (natural Stainless Color), with a black Aramid fiber hose, so even more color gradient when the hose is finished.

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Thank You endodoc,
The Goodridge 700 series Aramid hose can't used reusable fitting, only crimped, otherwise, I would prefer to build the fitting myself (more fun and no Goodridge UK labor cost).
I just took another pictures with better angle to show the "gradient" of color from stainless steel ABS module background to polished cooper washer, to black banjo, to polished cooper washer again and cap with the Titanium Silver from ProTi.
also note the Goodridge Female Connector -3AN will be Stainless Steel (natural Stainless Color), with a black Aramid fiber hose, so even more color gradient when the hose is finished.

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DETAILS!
 
That looks great. Do you have any photos of the lines themselves? I have some Kevlar (water) lines from Stratoflex but do not think I have seen the lines you are using. I do have the Aeroquip pneumatic bench crimper to do the crimp lines. I just haven’t used it in quite some time. Again, good info and nice work.
 
That looks great. Do you have any photos of the lines themselves? I have some Kevlar (water) lines from Stratoflex but do not think I have seen the lines you are using. I do have the Aeroquip pneumatic bench crimper to do the crimp lines. I just haven’t used it in quite some time. Again, good info and nice work.

Thanks again endodoc,

So, from what I remember (my memory is fading), about 20 years ago when I representing Goodridge in my country of origin, The Goodridge Kevlar brake braided line can be had with real Kevlar color finish (yellowish green).
Although I think I also order some in RED finish for my customer. My memory is blurry now...

But, what I clearly remember, it was available in -2 size. That brake line was incredible, the brake lever was very firm. However, Goodridge no longer offer in -2 size anymore for the 700 series hose.

Selling brake line at that time was great, I make at least 100% profit margin at list price from Goodridge UK, Exeter. And my Aprilia customers was so eager to top the other customer when they see each other during the club meeting that I arrange.

but now, the Goodridge brochure say the aramid fiber is in black color, this according to the latest Goodridge brochures on their website (which was issued back in 2017, yap Goodridge had not updated their catalog on their website for 3 years):

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However, if Goodridge is consistent with their 910 series aramid braided hose, then I think the Aramid fiber finished on the 700 series brake line hose should be the same style/color.
I do have recent pictures of this when I changed all my Fuel Line and Oil Cooler line in my car with Goodridge 910 series Aramid Braided maybe 3 years ago:

Here is the link to the forum website where I documented my project:
DIY Fuel Line upgrade to Goodridge 910Series PTFE with Aramid(Kevlar) reinforced hose - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums


The 910 series aramid braided hose is unique that it can use "Reusable" fitting, thus allow me to assemble them myself. (the PTFE tube of the 910 series is unique that it is convoluted design outside but smooth inside).
Also the aramid fiber is more pleasant to work with then regular stainless steel, the aramid fiber won't accidentally bleed your finger...

They look very nice and here are the pictures (note those Goodridge reusable fitting for 910 series hose, most of them are FORGED)
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Last,
Below is the picture of my booth during the largest car show in my country of origin back in year 2002. It was really good old days, when I was 29 years old and representing Aprilia, Italjet, Goodridge, Ferodo, ValterMoto, Arrow exhaust... and play with all of this all day long, :D

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and I took this picture when I visited Aprilia factory in Noale, not too far from (edit I mean Venice not Milan), this was also in 2002 I believe:
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now this is in Milan during the EICMA show:
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Hi Chris320,

I actually already measured the total length of all the lines earlier today and make a note, I need those total length so I can calculate the required hard line length. (just for approximation)

I did not posted it here because I never thought anyone would be interested :p
(oh, the value below is for the full line length meaning combination/total length of hard line and braided line but did NOT include the banjo length because the proper way to measure the hose (according to Goodridge) is from around the place where you "CUT" the hose. plus those banjo are not all "straight banjo"
Here is the explanation on how to calculate the hose from Goodridge website (which accurate if you are using straight banjo only though) : Buildaline

Back to the total length, here they are:
Line from Rear Master Cylinder to the ABS module = 48cm
Line from ABS module to the Rear Caliper = 130cm
Line from ABS module to Front Master Cylinder = 58cm
Line from ABS module to the Right Front Caliper = 86cm
Line from Right to Left Front Caliper = 35cm
Clutch Line = 83 cm
Also you might want to add 2 or 3cm extra for a bit more "slack". :D


many thanks for those, will be very useful later!
 
I can't edit my previous post yesterday but turn out I made some typo on the length. I found out just now when I was writing the email to order the 9 hoses (and rechecking with my handwritten notes), so here are the correct lengths:

The bill of material (BOM) for the Goodridge 700 series Aramid braided lines and using all Goodridge Stainless Steel fitting:
(the latest letter on the part#: C means Stainless Steel, while CBK means Stainless Steel Black Shadow line)


  • Hose#1: ABS to Rear MC
End Fitting A : Part# S6090-03C, 90 degree Forged Female Concave Seat Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 8cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#2: Rear MC to ABS
End Fitting A : Part# S5070-03CBK, 70 degree Banjo with Extended Neck Stainless Steel BLACK color

700 Series Hose : 14cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#3: ABS to Rear Caliper
End Fitting A : Part# S6090-03C, 90 degree Forged Female Concave Seat Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 10cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#4: Swing Arm Joint
End Fitting A : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 16cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#5: To Staubli of Rear Caliper
End Fitting A : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 15cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S6001-03CBK, Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 Stainless Steel BLACK color


  • Hose#6: ABS to Front MC
End Fitting A : Part# S6001-03C, Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 10cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#7: Front MC to ABS
End Fitting A : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 21cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S5094-03CBK ,45 degree Banjo with extended neck Stainless Steel BLACK color


  • Hose#8: ABS to "F" Distribution Block
End Fitting A : Part# S6045-03C, 45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector Stainless Steel

700 Series Hose : 8cm (centimeters)

End Fitting B : Part# S451-31C, Female Metric Concave Swivel Stainless Steel


  • Hose#9: Clutch Line
End Fitting A : Part# S6001-03CBK, Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 Stainless Steel BLACK color

700 Series Hose : 88cm (centimeters)

Line Locator : 2 (TWO) RUBBER mounting Grommet along the hose

End Fitting B : Part# S5094-03CBK, 45 degree Banjo Extended Neck Stainless Steel BLACK color


The only 2 lines that I had not included in the bill of material above are the 2 final lines from the ChaseBay "F" connector to the front left and right caliper,
because I want to bolted the ChaseBay "F" connector with a bracket first before I measure the ideal length of the hose that will goes to the Left and Right Staubli Quick Dry connector and then to the Front Calipers.
However, I already know the end fitting of both which will be
45 degree Forged Female Concave -AN3 Connector S6045-03C with 1 rubber grommet on each hose and ended with Straight Female Concave Seat -AN3 S6001-03CBK that will connect to the Staubli.
 
Of all these modifications that I made and all these parts that I love, nothing is as important as this one part :D

I was worried a lot that I will never get this one and it is a long story and effort just to get this one part (that should have been part of my bike edition)...

So, back in December when I decided I want to buy a 916 Anniversario, and since this is a significant purchase, I promise that I will only buy if "all stars aligned" meaning the price (deals) and also the serial number on the upper triple clamp.

I don't want to just purchase a bike with some random serial number, it got to be special for me and I am willing to pay extra. O

f course I am quite reasonable and not looking for bike number 1 or bike number 500, I don't need that kind of special, but I need a number that have personal meaning for me.

I compile an excel spreadsheet and even track all the serial number sold (or in another country) by looking at all the YouTube video. This way, I knew those serial numbers are no longer available.

From all the information above, I created a short list of serial number that I like that I know still available. I just have to found which dealer have it.

Arm with this information, I contacted every single dealer in the USA that have 916 Anniversario in stock or will have bike coming into their inventory and my first question was always, the serial number.
(good thing about this is, now I know almost every Ducati Dealer Sales Manager (some of them are the owner of the dealership) in the US, and which one is the pleasant person to deal with, in case I somehow buy another Ducati) :D

After several weeks of looking finally I found one bike with Serial#210 that I like. The dealer who have this bike have 3 units of 916 Anniversario in stock, however, the bike#210 was already ship to one of the owner of the dealership who live in another city. This person likes to collect unique bikes. The dealer offer me a very good deal on the other 2 bikes and ready for immediate delivery, but I insist, I only want to buy the bike #210 and as long as it had not been registered yet to DMV.

Well, the bike has not been registered yet to DMV so legally it is brand new, however, turn out the bike had been registered to Ducati USA in the Ducati USA system as belong to that owner of the dealership. The problem is, this mean the process to get the Ducati Certificate of Authenticity for this bike#210 had started and it will be for the owner of the dealership. I was not aware of this, and I believe the General Sales Manager at my dealership also did not know about this since all the communication with Ducati USA were handled by their head office in that other city. So few months after I took my bike home had passed until I received an email to show proof that my dealership is trying hard with the help of Ducati Regional Business Manager handling my area to rectify this situation. Since then I decided to coordinate directly with the Ducati Regional Business Manager (who is very very helpful) in pushing Ducati Italy to fix the administrative issue and make sure the Ducati Certificate of Authenticity will be issued to me instead.

Well, after almost 5 months of effort, I finally received a packaged directly from Switzerland (I don't know why it came from Switzerland) below, and this is a long sigh of relief for me.
Without this certificate, I will feel DEFENSELESS if someday, someone wants to start a "BIRTHER" movement against my 916 Anniversario, :p
but with this certificate, no one will doubt my 916 Anniversario authenticity. This bike cost much more than the regular V4S, and this certificate completely justified the cost and make it feel complete :D
This is A GREAT DAY !


By the way, I never knew that the Fairing Graphics was designed by Aldo Drudi of Drudi Performance until I read this certificate:

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Ducati really try to make this special that they even put the #210 on the SKETCH picture (circled in red):
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That is super cool! I love those little things that make the ownership feel special.

Thanks so much HKMP7 :D

Talking about special parts...
so I already measured the dimensions of all the visible bolts on top of the Airbox so I can replace them with ProTi Titanium bolts, but then I feel incomplete if I neglected the bolts below the airbox,...
which means, I need to remove the airbox, which also means, now I can have direct access to the Radiator HOSE !!!

I was tempted to replace the factory rubber hose with the Samco Hose, but I was reluctant to do it since the proper way is to remove the airbox, but now I guess I don't have a choice :p
Especially since ordering the Samco Hose together with the Goodridge fireproof sleeve for the brake line will save shipping cost...
So a few days ago, I ordered the Samco Hose in ORANGE color. (I was considering red, but I don't like the shade of red, I consider white, but it might get dirty from the grease/oil) so ORANGE it is.
The only problem is the Samco hose in Orange means 30 days of lead time... well that's ok, I can wait...

At the same time, I also ordered Mikalor Stainless Steel Hose Clamp in different sizes so I can replace most if not all factory Ducati clamp. This Mikalor clamp is the highest W5 version which means they are made from the 316 Stainless Steel (nicer finished and rust resistant). Amazingly the Mikalor (just) arrived in few days from Netherlands, no wonder the UPS shipping cost was 50 Euro :p

I also want to say Thank You @topolino
I found a lot of information for the Samco hose and the Mikalor from @topolino thread: Samco Radiator Hoses
Topolino was also the one who gave Samco his original hose which Samco used as their template.

Below are the Mikalors:
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Today, the Bonamici Racing HALF Lever for the Brembo RCS Corsa Corta arrived. I ordered it because I like the AERO cut out on the original Ducati by Rizoma half lever and the half lever from RCS Corsa Corta did not have it.
Also, the original Ducati by Rizoma half lever have the "DUCATI" lettering laser marked on it, so I custom order the "DUCATI" lettering to be laser marked on the Bonamici Racing Half lever. :D

The Bonamici lever is slightly shorter and have a very nice "cnc machine" machining pattern on the top side of it.

Here the before and after pictures:
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Can't edit the quote above, I guess there is a "timer" where you are only allow to edit your post for certain amount of time after you post...

Anyway, I took another picture that shows the "cnc machining" pattern (lines) on top of the lever.

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