Heads up on RaceSeat fitment on 22 pV4

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andyb said:
aw thanks

its a simple shoulder screw of slightly bigger dimension than a std screw......hardly a bodge ... and there are plenty of them to see!
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You are aware that they have told me they had not tried it on the current version of the bike and have subsequently resolved some issues with it, right?
 
spooky said:
You are aware that they have told me they had not tried it on the current version of the bike and have subsequently resolved some issues with it, right?
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Spooky, facts will not alter Andyb from his course. I'm not sure, if you are aware, but Andyb has already demonstrated he knows more than anyone else. The best option, is to learn, from him 👌👍
 
Rick stop being an antagonistic git it doesn't suit you.

Is this really the level we are working at? No wonder its such a big problem.

The seat mountings haven't changed since the inception of the bike therefore 22 to 18 and 18 to 22 fit. Yeah sure the holes on an after market carbon seat might need fettling a small amount, any one who's fitted anything after market will have been there. The shoulder bolt thing is a rouse ....

Ive decided to market these for a raceseats fitment kit

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andyb said:
Rick stop being an antagonistic git it doesn't suit you.

Is this really the level we are working at? No wonder its such a big problem.

The seat mountings haven't changed since the inception of the bike therefore 22 to 18 and 18 to 22 fit. Yeah sure the holes on an after market carbon seat might need fettling a small amount, any one who's fitted anything after market will have been there. The shoulder bolt thing is a rouse ....

Ive decided to market these for a raceseats fitment kit

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Beautiful words Andy 🥰
 
Parts should fit, regardless of being aftermarket or not. If parts require fettling in order to fit them then that says something, and not about the person who bought those parts.

I don’t think that expecting aftermarket parts to fit is unreasonable.
 
Alkhater said:
But does a '22 seat fit an '18 bike?

more importantly... Does "that" Raceseats part fit a '22 bike?! SD answered that question and it clearly doesn't.

Why other people are upset besides SD is confusing.
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Andy doesn’t get it…

Alkhater nailed it. And Spooky is kind of right that they did “fix” things. I guess I feel jilted.

The fact that they marketed a 22 seat but never tested it is beyond me.
 
spooky said:
Parts should fit, regardless of being aftermarket or not. If parts require fettling in order to fit them then that says something, and not about the person who bought those parts.

I don’t think that expecting aftermarket parts to fit is unreasonable.
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That’s reasonable, but in my 30 years or so messing around with modding, motorsports, and aftermarket parts nothing ever goes exactly as planned, that’s why there is a difference between OEM and aftermarket.

With OEM parts tens of millions of dollars are spent in R&D and tooling to get a well fitting part for the masses, but being designed for a ‘baseline’ of consumers many people like to operate outside the baseline, or need to.

Then the modding with aftermarket parts begins. Now you are into short run or sometimes even “one off” parts that are customized to you, those are NEVER long run consistently produced parts, they simply can’t be because they’d have to spend tens of millions of dollars in R&D and tooling in most cases to do so.

Simply put, 100% of the time there is going to be a gap between what is and what’s supposed to be. If it’s a high quality aftermarket short run or one off part that gap will be small, if it’s poor quality that gap will be big. Either way, 95% of aftermarket parts I’ve ever bought require at least a little bit of ‘fiddling’ to get right.

Your PERSONAL tolerance for fiddling to make it work is going to determine a lot of how well you like a part and get use out of it, this is what I was referring to when I said 90% of the people here would have had that seat on in ten minutes and moved on with life lol

If you have ZERO tolerance for fiddling to get something right you should either have your shop do it for you and move on, or only buy OEM.
 
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SuperDomestique said:
The fact that they marketed a 22 seat but never tested it is beyond me.
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I’d guess they just assumed that if Ducati seats still fit then theirs would be fine. They make seats for a lot of bikes so I guess it just slipped through. Maybe the tank change has made the difference? Things happen and I’m sure they would have much preferred to have a happy customer.
 
Steven31371 said:
That’s reasonable, but in my 30 years or so messing around with modding, motorsports, and aftermarket parts nothing ever goes exactly as planned, that’s why there is a difference between OEM and aftermarket.

With OEM parts tens of millions of dollars are spent in R&D and tooling to get a well fitting part for the masses, but being designed for a ‘baseline’ of consumers many people like to operate outside the baseline, or need to.

Then the modding with aftermarket parts begins. Now you are into short run or sometimes even “one off” parts that are customized to you, those are NEVER long run consistently produced parts, they simply can’t be because they’d have to spend tens of millions of dollars in R&D and tooling in most cases to do so.

Simply put, 100% of the time there is going to be a gap between what is and what’s supposed to be. If it’s a high quality aftermarket short run or one off part that gap will be small, if it’s poor quality that gap will be big. Either way, 95% of aftermarket parts I’ve ever bought require at least a little bit of ‘fiddling’ to get right.

Your PERSONAL tolerance for fiddling to make it work is going to determine a lot of how well you like a part and get use out of it, this is what I was referring to when I said 90% of the people here would have had that seat on in ten minutes and moved on with life lol

If you have ZERO tolerance for fiddling to get something right you should either have your shop do it for you and move on, or only buy OEM.
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Love getting advice from someone who can’t touch their toes. Must make it hard when these aftermarket companies bend you over.
 

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