Heat issues, addressed today by Ducati!

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CaliDuc said:
AntiHero,

You have had more experience with a 1199 than any other person on this forum, so your constructive comments hold a lot of weight with me. Your signal to noise ratio on your posts are of great value.

Something to consider .. *IF* you believe that you can come up with a palatable solution ; I sense an untapped market need and as such and for what it is worth, please consider me as a potential business backer. I have some bandwidth and I invest in people. Please do not be discouraged by people who tear down your ideas.

As I have both a 1199 S Tricolore and a 1098 S Tricolore I can state that we both hold congruent viewpoints.
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Having a ride on both back to back with Anti-H; we both agreed that the 1098 is an overall much more egonomically designed bike and gives greater rider feedback than the 1199. The heat issue is one that I cannot relate to as much as others (I have been called insensate very often, however ;), perhaps that has something to do with it?)

In all actuality, I do have a weird high pain threshold in general. (thanks, Sensei Kayo!) So I guess I'm lucky in that I can enjoy both bikes without the heat prejudicing me.
 
Haz said:
What was the air temp in WA when you rode?
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38oC.

I think anybody who lives in a climate that doesn't go much above 30oC needn't comment on the heat issue.

The worst of my burning occurred at an extended ride between 60-80kph. Above 90kph in high heat the bike is okay, stationary it is okay, its on the move in that 60-80 range that the heat is ludicrous.

My wife took a photo of my legs after the ride, I will spare you all a shot of me in my undies but trust me, big red burns on both legs, I have four blisters on my right leg, three days later.
 
OzStriker said:
38oC.

I think anybody who lives in a climate that doesn't go much above 30oC needn't comment on the heat issue.

The worst of my burning occurred at an extended ride between 60-80kph. Above 90kph in high heat the bike is okay, stationary it is okay, its on the move in that 60-80 range that the heat is ludicrous.

My wife took a photo of my legs after the ride, I will spare you all a shot of me in my undies but trust me, big red burns on both legs, I have four blisters on my right leg, three days later.
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So even if someone gets very uncomfortable with the heat they should not be entitled to an opinion unless it meets your criteria? :confused:
 
jjsC6 said:
So even if someone gets very uncomfortable with the heat they should not be entitled to an opinion unless it meets your criteria? :confused:
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I think the problem is that the heat issue affects people differently based on their regional climate. He feels that if you are in a relatively cold climate that you can't dismiss the heat issue since people in warm climates are apparently receiving second degree burns while wearing proper riding gear. I have to admit that I would have a real problem with the heat if that were the case. Since I took delivery in December and only have 1000 miles in colder weather, I can't really say the heat "isn't an issue" since I haven't ridden it in summer riding gear in summer temps yet (for us 80-100 F).

If we accept that hot weather Pani riding experience is a requirement to comment on the heat issue then I have no comments that are valid. I have ridden it 1000 miles in the past month and a half in temps between 27-60 F and it is much hotter than my 1098. That being said, at least when ambient temp is less than or equal to 60F it isn't hot enough to burn me. I got stuck in traffic for about 30 minutes yesterday with air temps around 40-45F in jeans with textile overpants and it wasn't noticeably hot even though the coolant temp reached as high as 215.
 
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..... and last I looked at the title it was "Heat Issues, addressed today by Ducati", this has nothing to do with who can and can't post what the feel is an issue. Ah the beauty of forums!:cool:

This has been mentioned several times but all we can do is wait and see. Nobody has even beta tested the product and graced us with his/her input. I wouldn't say it will be a 100% problem solver (this heat shield) but may oh say 15% :D

I just so happen to live in weather that stays in the 100's (talking Fahrenheit here) for weeks. Right now the high has only been 70, but yesterday stuck in traffic was uncomfortable, bearable, but uncomfortable. I only think I have issues under the seat.

I do have the DP racing seat on, and its slightly better at the transfer of heat than the stocker but I am not having issues on my thighs or anything, time will tell, it isn't that hot here yet, we have Arizona climates!! :confused:
 
He was just stating the obvious. This bike doesn't show its really hot nature until the low 90's F and downright uncomfortable heat in traffic from 95 F & up.

I can say in FL it has been no problem at all in the 60's- 80 this winter. But I have to admit that the end of last summer was brutal. Especially in after-work traffic. I know Houston has same weather as here (hot & humid) so I'm sure you (rightfully) share that observation if you have had your 1199 since last summer. If not, I'm sure you probably will...

So perhaps it could have been better worded as: "Those who ride in temps long term in temps consistently > 35 degrees C will be much more affected by the bike's heat"... At least that's how I took his statement.


jjsC6 said:
So even if someone gets very uncomfortable with the heat they should not be entitled to an opinion unless it meets your criteria? :confused:
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CoSypha said:
..... and last I looked at the title it was "Heat Issues, addressed today by Ducati", this has nothing to do with who can and can't post what the feel is an issue. Ah the beauty of forums!:cool:

This has been mentioned several times but all we can do is wait and see. Nobody has even beta tested the product and graced us with his/her input. I wouldn't say it will be a 100% problem solver (this heat shield) but may oh say 15% :D

I just so happen to live in weather that stays in the 100's (talking Fahrenheit here) for weeks. Right now the high has only been 70, but yesterday stuck in traffic was uncomfortable, bearable, but uncomfortable. I only think I have issues under the seat.

I do have the DP racing seat on, and its slightly better at the transfer of heat than the stocker but I am not having issues on my thighs or anything, time will tell, it isn't that hot here yet, we have Arizona climates!! :confused:
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You also need to defend the right of someone saying who they "think" can post. As long a it isn't the admin saying it and actually stopping posting, just ignore it. It would be like me saying only people with red 1199s can post here, as white ones really aren't true 1199s, just ones they forgot to paint and are trying to unload to poor unfortunate suckers.

I don't like that the people that complained about the heat, are now complaining about the fix - but I am not trying to stop them from posting.
 
Christ, he just made a point that obviously if you are in a cold climate you will see it differently. Just a turn of a phrase to say "needn't comment". Can everybody try not to get so sidetracked on these argumentative tangents. I came to see if there was any new information on the fix and have to wade through pages of bickering nonsense. And now I see I'VE become what I can't stand. Great.
 
Denver Rick said:
Christ, he just made a point that obviously if you are in a cold climate you will see it differently. Just a turn of a phrase to say "needn't comment". Can everybody try not to get so sidetracked on these argumentative tangents. I came to see if there was any new information on the fix and have to wade through pages of bickering nonsense. And now I see I'VE become what I can't stand. Great.
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just start a new thread. looks like there are at least 4 going on about the heat issue. :)
 
I agree with you last statement in particular trauma. I'll hold my criticism until I see what ducati came out personally. Who knows. Maybe they'll let me keep my current one and use the new one in Aug-Sep-Oct down here. :)
 
southeastduc said:
I agree with you last statement in particular trauma. I'll hold my criticism until I see what ducati came out personally. Who knows. Maybe they'll let me keep my current one and use the new one in Aug-Sep-Oct down here. :)
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South duc, where in Florida are you? Im in St. Aug/Jax area
 
It's a shame we can't get some data together chaps.

I rode all the way through a Mediterranean summer >38C and didn't feel any discomfort.

There has got to be some other varibles at play, other than town riding and ambient temperature.
 
It's a shame we can't get some data together chaps.

I rode all the way through a Mediterranean summer >38C and didn't feel any discomfort.

There has got to be some other varibles at play, other than town riding and ambient temperature.
 
Rode mine last summer...Ambient temp was around 105F... I was miserable and burned.....cant wait to have this mod done....Its my only whine about this bike.... :)
 
Sorry to wadein on this again but it's not just a hot weather thing, although it makes it easier to replicate the problem for obvious reasons.

I've ridden on many different days, its been 80-100 degrees for over two months now and only on some days did it become a little uncomfortable, couldn't work it out.

Just starting and staying riding through urban conditions (home to work) and it gets hot but still bearable. Equally long runs or country riding ending up at a destination with no urban/slow riding is also ok.

Discovered it was after a good long run then going into an extended period of slow running that it started to become bad - even in leathers! I reckon this would be an issue in almost any temperate climate.

So if you do a long country run before spending time in traffic (like many out of town commuters) then this is likely to be a problem.

I like the fact that Ducatin have made this a warranty fix. Looking forward to seeing what difference it makes.
 
The heat is worse than any other bike I have ridden. With that said, this is the funnist bike I have ever owned and wouldnt change to anything else.
 
Since the oppinions are so sporadic, and everyone's bike is made from the same mold, per se. I may be going out the limb here, but I think it's a human factor. People that are too hot on the bike, have some issues with their bodies capability to handle it, i.e, you are a wimp if you complain about it. The tough guys can handle it, and don't complain.

Just a theory mind you, not meant to represent the feelings of anyone on this forum, or the forum in general, or even me :D
 
Another Factor may be that certain members on this forum have too much body volume, after all the average american male is 181lbs. this may lead to too much thigh surface volume hanging off the bike in direct exhaust heat, resulting in scorching. If we all lost a little weight to reduce body volume, the heat may not be an issue.

borrowing the disclaimer from Trauma the trouble maker:

ust a theory mind you, not meant to represent the feelings of anyone on this forum, or the forum in general, or even me :)

I'm off to hit the treadmill
 

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