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Rhino said:
Aesthetics.

Anyone that tells you different is full of it.
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Thats a bit of a sweeping statement. Perhaps you were shafted and sold a dodgy product.

I know for a fact there are many ceramic coatings that are great thermal insulators, eg supertherm..:cool::cool:
 
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Flynn said:
First Ducati I have ever ridden and it was to the point it was getting painful.
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Mmmh, you sure picked a good model to pop your Ducati cherry bud :p

Heat from the RHS fairing is pretty noticeable around town - you have the exhaust header and heat exchanger right by your shin with foot down!

I only had one false neutral and that was with the QS, but I wasn't positive enough with my boot on that occasion.

All in all, save a dry clutch and a murderously heavy lever action, welcome to Ducati :)
 
littlejohn said:
Thats a bit of a sweeping statement. Perhaps you were shafted and sold a dodgy product.

I know for a fact there are many ceramic coatings that are great thermal insulators, eg supertherm..:cool::cool:
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I wouldnt worry about it to much mate...Rhino will whinge about anything.

Ive done enough research and talked to enough people using the finished product to make up my mind.
 
Hey Xbox,

You say its noticable, put is it painfull? I got use to the underseat heat on my 749 pretty quickly and now I like it ;)
 
carldickson said:
Hey Xbox,

You say its noticable, put is it painfull? I got use to the underseat heat on my 749 pretty quickly and now I like it ;)
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Lets just say if Dainese sold a pair of kevlar jeans, with added shin strips, then I'd be first in line.

Either that, or some kevlar socks :p

But seriously, it doesn't hurt, no, it just makes you acutly aware of a hot air source close to your ankle.
 
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I have ridden the bike for over a 1000 kms and have got used to the heat it only disappears if you are travelling over 100 kmph :) a quick stand up on the pegs if travelling at lower speed helps.
Regarding false neutrals I reported this problem when I first got the bike and found you really have to hit the gear lever if you are too soft it will happen. On my BM only a soft touch is necessary so I was a little disappointed but have since got used to it
The oil window is akward but againg once you get your eye in its ok I am check mine after ever ride during running in
Its a great bike which will grow on you
 
Once I started shifting harder it got better as far as the false neutral. The heat thing just gets to me. I wanted the bike to be perfect and with all the hype(cost) it should have been. Mine is due the 14th (#1) on the list so I am gonna demo it again to see if this is something I really want to live with. :(
 
Wallaroo said:
Here is a bit of info.....I am doing mine in Satin Black as it will suit the final look of my bike when finished.

Pacemaker Headers Australia - Quality Performance Exhaust Headers :: Ceramic Coating
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Site says that temp drops by around 60% when coated, eg from 180 deg C to 80! I'm sure a reputable business wouldn't be dumb enough to lie blatantly like that on their website - its false advertising, there are laws against that + it would give any customary who spent hundreds / thousands getting it done the right to a FULL REFUND if the hear wasn't reduced as advertised.

1. Exhaust gas temperature

2. Header surface temperature

3. Radiated heat (uncoated)

4. Radiated heat (coated)

5. Temp Drop Degrees F

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. * * * *
1330° 810° 170° 60° 110°
1340° 810° 170° 60° 110°
1350° 820° 180° 70° 110°
1380° 830° 180° 70° 110°
1410° 840° 180° 70° 110°
1420° 840° 180° 70° 110°
1440° 860° 190° 70° 120°
1510° 890° 190° 70° 120°
1530° 930° 200° 80° 120°

My only thing is what colour. I don't like chrome - wish there was a Matt colour that was similar to the colour of the uncharted headers or the copper colors of the magnesium parts like the clutch cover...
 
At this point there is no 1199 in my future. I had a back injury with surgery in nov. And a few weeks ago my dr put me on per restrictions then my work let me go( in Indiana they have a right to fire no matter what) so I cried when I had to call my dealer and get my deposit back. I am 42 with per restrictions no one is gonna wanna hire me at this point making what I was making before(18 hr) man I am so depressed at this point.
 
I've got just over 1200 miles on my 1199 and must say the pipe under the seat can get quite warm. The temperature gage ranged from 160s to 220s depending on the outside temperatures (69-to 89F) and pace (60 MPH+ to stop and go traffic). In short, If you ride like I do and rarely experience stop and go traffic, it's not an issue, even it the heat. If you ride in the city and high temperatures and heavy traffic is common for you, maybe its worth it. Of course the process would have to be and effective heat shield, and I cannot speak to that.
 
I'm at about 700 miles, just finished my first service on my 1199s. For me here in TN its quite warm outside, mid 70's to mid 80's. Its not to bad on highways or without stopping but in stop and go traffic it does tend to get quite warm.
 
Flynn
Sorry to hear of the medical problems forcing you to cancel your bike order. That is a tough break. Best of luck and hopefully you'll make a good recovery.
 
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At this point there is no 1199 in my future. I had a back injury with surgery in nov. And a few weeks ago my dr put me on per restrictions then my work let me go( in Indiana they have a right to fire no matter what) so I cried when I had to call my dealer and get my deposit back. I am 42 with per restrictions no one is gonna wanna hire me at this point making what I was making before(18 hr) man I am so depressed at this point.
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Very sorry to here this try and keep positive you never know how life turns I was made redundant twice due to the companies going bust last time at the age.of 35 and I am know in a better job than previous
Hope the back sorts itself out
 
IMO, all bikes get uncomfortably hot, regardless of where the exhaust exits or engine configuration (I-4s, V-2s, I-3s). None of them has ever gotten painfully hot for me, but always uncomfortably hot in anything over 80-85 degrees F.

I had a friend wrap the pipes on his Triumph and I thought it looked good, sort of racing kit bike type look.
 
I rode Panigale today and the heat getting to my thighs is uncomfortable enough to be annoyance. It reminds me of my Viper SRT10 - I rarely drive it at 85F+.

Unlike everyone though I think it's not an exhaust but the heat emitted by the rear cylinder. That's the heat source closest to thighs and also - heat is less when driving faster.

If it would be exhaust the heat would have to get up through turbulence and it would be much more indirect plus pretty much the same at any speed.

It seems to me that simple plastic/carbon covers might solve the problem. Anyone with similar conclusion?

Great bike otherwise although still prefer my Diavel as DD.
 
diavel said:
I rode Panigale today and the heat getting to my thighs is uncomfortable enough to be annoyance. It reminds me of my Viper SRT10 - I rarely drive it at 85F+.

Unlike everyone though I think it's not an exhaust but the heat emitted by the rear cylinder. That's the heat source closest to thighs and also - heat is less when driving faster.

If it would be exhaust the heat would have to get up through turbulence and it would be much more indirect plus pretty much the same at any speed.

It seems to me that simple plastic/carbon covers might solve the problem. Anyone with similar conclusion?

Great bike otherwise although still prefer my Diavel as DD.
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The top radiator discharges hot air to the left and right in the area of your knees, I suspect this is the source, although the rear cylinder will get hot too. I don't find it a problem, but it's still late spring here and quite cool. I don't really notice it at all when I have leathers on, but more so with jeans. The electric fan discharges hot air from the bottom rad out of the bottom of the bike.
 
I just picked up my Termi pipes and am about to ship them off to Jet-Hot Ceramic Coatings for their Jet-Hot Extreme 1300 coating. I'm not having the exterior colored, per se, but rather polished.

I've had several conversations about this not only with Jet-Hot but also with both motorcycle and automotive enthusiasts and a couple of small plane owners and each one has commented positively about the heat and protection aspects of the ceramic coating they've had done.

I was given an estimate of US165.00 for the Termi pipes (~US200.00 including shipping) and told it takes about three days to do - so roughly a week total.

I'll probably do the break-in on the stock pipes and cans then replace them with the Termis at the first service.

And, while the bike STILL isn't here, I'll post pictures when the pipes return coated and let you know, once they are on, if the difference is noticeable.
 
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