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I will be taking the coated header down to my thermodynamics friend at the Naval Postgraduate School next week and leaving with him for some comparative testing. He had the uncoated header a couple of weeks ago for a few days before I sent it off to Jet-Hot for their Extreme 1300 polished coating.
I'll certainly let everyone know what the results are as soon as I get them. I'll get the headers installed on the bike after he does his bench tests. I sent him the IR heat signature video (THANKS, by the way) and he said he was not at all surprised by the images.
I'm pretty anxious...
I've also looked at a few different heat reflective materials that I may "experiment" with as well and in addition to the coating - especially in and around the electronics AND along the cowlings where the pipes are closest. My biggest concern with some of these adhesive backed materials is the glue's integrity when exposed to the heat for long periods of time. I'd hate to have to use fasteners - though there may be a way to fasten without penetrating the plastic.
More to follow...
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yep, lots of people feel that way, and the pani would not be for them. Unfortunately heats something you have to live with on this bike. I have little faith that any coating will offer a significant difference.
It's miles better than my 996 was and no worse than my rsv4
It's miles better than my 996 was and no worse than my rsv4
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Today it was 100to degrees in Virginia and u ride 220it miles in full gear. Only time it got over 215mph on dash was sitting in stopped traffic. Since my last bike was the 1198 I cannot bitch at all with what this puts out. Ya gotta just learn to deal with it and open your legs as often as ya can while riding.
There's a price you pay for owning the most spectacular bike on the road!
There's a price you pay for owning the most spectacular bike on the road!
Heat is a real issue, I have burns to prove it
There is a major difference between the Panigale heat issue and the previous Ducatis. I rode my Tricolore 8 hours a day for 2 days, 600 miles and ended up with significant burns on the back of my right thigh. I was moving the entire time and riding aggressively the way the bike is designed to be riden. The more you push the bike, the more the heat is an issue. So unlike the previous models, stop and start traffic heat isn't the issue. I was wearing Dainese leather pants with armor. I'm told Ducati is working on a solution.
There is a major difference between the Panigale heat issue and the previous Ducatis. I rode my Tricolore 8 hours a day for 2 days, 600 miles and ended up with significant burns on the back of my right thigh. I was moving the entire time and riding aggressively the way the bike is designed to be riden. The more you push the bike, the more the heat is an issue. So unlike the previous models, stop and start traffic heat isn't the issue. I was wearing Dainese leather pants with armor. I'm told Ducati is working on a solution.
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102 in NY today and it got hot. still seems to never go over 221 F even in traffic but my thighs were roasted - mainly because it was so hot i was in Icon pants not perforated leathers. still love the bike!
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Well, if you don't learn to love with it I suppose one could do everything possible to reduce the heat coming off the engine and manifold, or like some have even eluded to- get rid of the bike? For now I will learn to deal with it until something comes along making it worth doing.
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Just a side-bar comment ... I have quite a number of friends at the Naval Postgraduate School .. interesting ;-)
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another side bar, while I was roasting in the driver's seat, the passenger on back pretty much felt not heat at all...and she was basically in "shorts" although it was only about 15 minutes.
i can say the heat appears to be getting better over time else i'm getting more used to it.
i can say the heat appears to be getting better over time else i'm getting more used to it.
2 options for the heat issue
Ducati is supposedly designing a new heat shield for the bike largely based on negative feedback from the track guys not from us amateurs. They recognize the heat comes from riding the bikes as they were designed to be ridden, not as a street bike. I think we have all seen the video showing the heat wrap on the track bike. If this was an issue only while standing still why would a track bike need a solution? As I said earlier that's why this is not an issue of one's manlihood or outiside temp or whatever the dash tells you is the engine temp. When I got my burns the outside temp was high 70s. Conditions are worst when running the bike with knees hugging the tank, sustained speeds 50+ mph, aggressive riding. My engine temp never got higher than 200 in those conditions with full system. It is an aerodynamic issue which needs a new shield.
The other option is for them to offer pants via their clothing line in partnership with Dainese that has heat shilelding in the pants. All they would have to do is cover the mid portion of the back of your right leg with some heat reflecting material.
Ducati is supposedly designing a new heat shield for the bike largely based on negative feedback from the track guys not from us amateurs. They recognize the heat comes from riding the bikes as they were designed to be ridden, not as a street bike. I think we have all seen the video showing the heat wrap on the track bike. If this was an issue only while standing still why would a track bike need a solution? As I said earlier that's why this is not an issue of one's manlihood or outiside temp or whatever the dash tells you is the engine temp. When I got my burns the outside temp was high 70s. Conditions are worst when running the bike with knees hugging the tank, sustained speeds 50+ mph, aggressive riding. My engine temp never got higher than 200 in those conditions with full system. It is an aerodynamic issue which needs a new shield.
The other option is for them to offer pants via their clothing line in partnership with Dainese that has heat shilelding in the pants. All they would have to do is cover the mid portion of the back of your right leg with some heat reflecting material.
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It was about in the 70's F yesterday and the bike never got over 214 F in traffic but still wasn't the helli felt upon its first start! Seems like the heat gets better as you break it in...
P.s. I was wearing basketball shorts underneath my pants, (had a game) and the heat wasn't bad!
P.s. I was wearing basketball shorts underneath my pants, (had a game) and the heat wasn't bad!
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Only done 150 miles so far, but not had any real heat issues. Hot around town but no more than other big engine bikes. At 50 and above it's fine for an hour and a half solid ride. I always wear leathers.
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As others have said, either the heat is getting more tolerable as times goes on or I am getting used to it...not sure which.
This is my first Ducati and I came off a CBR 1000. Honestly on the first ride home I felt the heat was rather intense and said, "What have I got myself into." I try to compare the two bikes to each other but it seems so difficult because they are so different.
Overall the Ducati is just amazing, the sound, the looks of the bike, the feel of the engine, its overall character. I also enjoyed my Cbr, though the sound was weak and lacked interesting attributes, looks were not too bad, I did enjoy the strong midrange punch of the engine, and definitely didn't notice it put off heat like the Ducati (only at stops when the fans were blowing on you).
At the end of the day I think people either have to accept the quirks of the Ducati or sell it and move on to another bike that has different kind of quirks. I guess it is all about priorities and what each looks for in a bike.
This is my first Ducati and I came off a CBR 1000. Honestly on the first ride home I felt the heat was rather intense and said, "What have I got myself into." I try to compare the two bikes to each other but it seems so difficult because they are so different.
Overall the Ducati is just amazing, the sound, the looks of the bike, the feel of the engine, its overall character. I also enjoyed my Cbr, though the sound was weak and lacked interesting attributes, looks were not too bad, I did enjoy the strong midrange punch of the engine, and definitely didn't notice it put off heat like the Ducati (only at stops when the fans were blowing on you).
At the end of the day I think people either have to accept the quirks of the Ducati or sell it and move on to another bike that has different kind of quirks. I guess it is all about priorities and what each looks for in a bike.
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I haven't experienced this, I rode 3 hrs each way to the dealer(ambient temp in the high 80s) at hiway speeds and had no issues with heat at all. Additionally, riding in traffic, it gets hot but no worse than my rsv4.
BTW> I'm on the stock exhaust. and approaching 1k miles
BTW> I'm on the stock exhaust. and approaching 1k miles
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HUH? Are you serious?
I've got a 2010 Busa and I live in Sydney.
Believe me, the summers get hot. There is NO radiated heat reaching the rider on a Busa.
None.
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When I had my Termi full-system installed (week of June 4th), the mechanic told be he installed a new heat shield from Ducati (not the one under the CF header pipe cover). I am not sure if this is the one noted above, but it does work.
And yes, the heat does appear to be less with (1) break-in, and (2), the new exhaust system and fuel mapping, which runs richer than originally mapped to achieve US emissions.
Heat on the body is only a slight discomfort for me when in stop-and-go traffic (which is VERY infrequent in the Ozarks); however, I only ride in full leathers.
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