I just had to chime in on your last comment about nobody saying anything negative about the BMW. It's kinda like if you introduce some of your friends to your wife... if they think she's hot, they'll tell you, if they think she's ugly, they'll lie and say she's cute, or just not comment at all. What I'm getting at, is that the BMW is widely known to be a polorizing bike based on looks, and the people that like it will tell you, but unless a complete stranger is a total ass, they're not going to walk up and tell you your bike is ugly. Who does that?! The internet is plastered with comments calling out the BMW's headlight design as ugly, along with it's exhaust and the empty spot it leaves if you go full system (which is why they created a special lower faring for the HP4). That said, the engineer in me LOVES the BMW, but my eyeballs can't get past it's looks. Looks are always a personal preference thing though. Some people think mustangs look better than camaros and vice versa... good luck convincing one of them that the other looks better. There are also things that are accepted as generalities based on an overwhelmingly large prefence from the public... for example, not everyone loves the way Ferraris look, but most auto-enthusiasts would put them as one of the best looking. Same with Ducati, most reviewers and the general biking community would say it's one of the best looking. Not so of the BMW. But to each their own. This is obviously a Ducati forum full of biased owners