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I don't see how 300bhp is rideable on the street or track, having ridden a team ama bike with 220bhp at the rear wheel it was more than a handful and that had a full marelli electronics package etc.

This bike appeals to the guy who wants to say he has the most powerful production bike in the world and only rides in a straight line on a track even with the current safety packages we have it's inevitable you would high side it trying to go at pace.

I would take a SL over this bike any day of the week
 
I don't see how 300bhp is rideable on the street or track, having ridden a team ama bike with 220bhp at the rear wheel it was more than a handful and that had a full marelli electronics package etc.

This bike appeals to the guy who wants to say he has the most powerful production bike in the world and only rides in a straight line on a track even with the current safety packages we have it's inevitable you would high side it trying to go at pace.

I would take a SL over this bike any day of the week

So far, this bike seems to have quite a bit of appeal to this guy:
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For some reason, I don't think he has a preference for straights or cares about meaningless bragging rights.

This bike is no ZX14.
 
So far, this bike seems to have quite a bit of appeal to this guy:
image.jpg


For some reason, I don't think he has a preference for straights or cares about meaningless bragging rights.

This bike is no ZX14.

I may be wrong but that's a different bike than the one being discussed .
 
google ; i'm too lazy..

Bzzzzzzt! Wrong answer!

"google ; i'm too lazy.." roughly translates to:
I have no idea and was speculating wildly, but I'm sure I could find something out of context that could loosely argue my point enough to slowly back away while changing the subject.

Thanks for playing.
 
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Bzzzzzzt! Wrong answer!

"google ; i'm too lazy.." roughly translates to:
I have no idea and was speculating wildly, but I'm sure I could find something out of context that could loosely argue my point enough to slowly back away while changing the subject.

Thanks for playing.

not quite...do the due diligence....if u r compelled to feel like u r right, then u r right...incidentally there was a piece in a Canadian newspaper that also reiterated this point...it was in BC Canada....about 3 weeks ago....oh well......u can go hunt for it.....itz the facts...40-somethings dying and getting maimed most demographic....
 
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Stats also say the average bike is almost a liter, and your stats do not list demographics of sport bike riders only.

I will also state you took me way out of context making you factually in error.

Lest look into it.


How many H2's will they sell a year in the USA? Probably about half the number of deaths from new young riders on sport bikes, maybe ???

The H2 riders would probably have to wreck every one 10X's for me to be in error, unless you don't think young kids ever crash their sport bikes.

Exaggerated? oh hell yes, but there would have to be a hell of a lot of H2 deaths to make me in error


yes the stats were NOT specific to sportbikes. that is correct. but that does not detract from my point and specifically reinforces the previous point i was addressing: that those that can afford this bike are most likely to kill themselves on it as function of stats in general...
 

u may use that very same proof and prove me wrong if you dont believe it. LOL. the sugar and fat r rotting ur brain and ego.

now its time for u to run along and get that picture of me again. LOL!

Jello r u fat perchance ¿ ¿ ¿

edit: i wasnt the one disputing the claim, i was making a factual point; so if u weren't such a fathead Jello you'd realize that your very wiki above means that YOU must provide proof since you are making the argument. get it ¿ ¿ ¿ LOL ¡ ¡ ¡ ¡ ¡
 
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I may be wrong but that's a different bike than the one being discussed .

I figured most of you would recognize the picture. That is Jeremy Toye and the ZX10R he used to set a record while winning the 92nd running of the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb in the premiere Open Class. He also happens to be the same chap who is currently test riding the H2 for commercial filming (several of his tweets were quoted earlier in this thread )

Here is the POV vid of his Pike's Peak run. He really seems like the kind of guy who is only good at pinning it on the straights, which makes sense considering he seems to be very pleased with the H2. ; )

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Quf-vWRMBvY
 
That's great I am sure he is quite capable . I still don't get your point but I am only a dumb as .... Australian .
 
u may use that very same proof and prove me wrong if you dont believe it. LOL. the sugar and fat r rotting ur brain and ego.

now its time for u to run along and get that picture of me again. LOL!

Jello r u fat perchance ¿ ¿ ¿

Ugh. Way to move on straight to ad hominem attacks. Stay classy and all of that. ("Never argue with an ...... They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.", etc)

Since you clearly didn't read the "burden of proof" link I provided for you, let me help you out: the person asserting the claim, is the one who must provide the proof, not the other parties who may doubt said claim in absence of any evidence.

As for the actual (and now sadly and horrifically off-thread) subject of demographics of motorcyclists in fatalities, I suggest you read the following:
US DOT NHTSA Geo-Demographic Analysis of Fatal Motorcycle Crashes pp 25, which states:
"About 55% of fatal motorcycle crashes involve drivers of motorcycle under age 30. About 80% involve drivers of motorcycle under 40. Certainly, younger people are involved in most of the fatal motorcycle crashes in the U.S."

If reading is challenging, see the CDC study on Motorcycle Crash-Related Data which includes pretty graphs such as:
dsmotorcyclesafety1_626px.jpg
 
Ugh. Way to move on straight to ad hominem attacks. Stay classy and all of that. (“Never argue with an ...... They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”, etc)

Since you clearly didn't read the "burden of proof" link I provided for you, let me help you out: the person asserting the claim, is the one who must provide the proof, not the other parties who may doubt said claim in absence of any evidence.

As for the actual (and now sadly and horrifically off-thread) subject of demographics of motorcyclists in fatalities, I suggest you read the following:
US DOT NHTSA Geo-Demographic Analysis of Fatal Motorcycle Crashes pp 25, which states:
"About 55% of fatal motorcycle crashes involve drivers of motorcycle under age 30. About 80% involve drivers of motorcycle under 40. Certainly, younger people are involved in most of the fatal motorcycle crashes in the U.S."

If reading is challenging, see the CDC study on Motorcycle Crash-Related Data which includes pretty graphs such as:
dsmotorcyclesafety1_626px.jpg


edit: i wasnt the one disputing the claim, i was making a factual point; so if u weren't such a fathead Jello you'd realize that your very wiki above means that YOU must provide proof since you are making the argument. get it ¿ ¿ ¿ LOL ¡ ¡ ¡ ¡ ¡

edit: R E A D I N G -- GET IT ¿ ¿ ¿

now i am lazy, but let me go look for the other stats LOL!


for some e.g.s to wit (my bold underline):

"By Age: Older motorcyclists account for more than half of all motorcyclist fatalities. NHTSA data show that in 2011, 56.0 percent of motorcyclists killed in crashes were age 40 or over, compared with 44.0 percent in 2002. The number of motorcyclists age 40 and over killed in crashes increased by 78 percent from 2002 to 2011. In contrast, fatalities among young motorcyclists have declined, relative to other age groups. In 2011 fatalities in the under 30-year-old group dropped to 26.5 percent of total motorcyclists killed in crashes from 31.9 percent in 2002. Fatalities among motorcyclists in the 30-to 39-year-old group fell to 17.9 percent in 2011 from 23.9 percent in 2002. NHTSA says that the average age of motorcycle riders killed in crashes was 42 in 2011.

Older riders appear to sustain more serious injuries than younger riders. Researchers from Brown University cited declines in vision and reaction time, along with the larger-sized bikes that older riders favor, which tend to roll over more often, and the increased fragility among older people as the causes. The study used data on riders age 20 and over who needed emergency medical care following motorcycle crashes from 2001 to 2008. The riders were put in three groups by age: 20 to 39, 40 to 59, and 60 and over. The data showed that while injury rates were rising for all age groups, the steepest rise occurred in the 60 and over group, who were two and a half times more likely to have serious injuries than the youngest group. They were three times more likely to be admitted to the hospital. The middle and older groups were also more likely to sustain fractures, dislocations and other injuries, such as brain damage, than the youngest group. The authors published findings in the journal Injury Prevention in February 2013. The study is entitled Injury patterns and severity among motorcyclists treated in US emergency departments, 2001–2008: a comparison of younger and older riders." from http://www.iii.org/issue-update/motorcycle-crashes

now Jello u too can f off LOL!

here's another one:

"Older motorcyclists (40 years and up) account for 75% of all motorcyclists’ deaths over this 10-year period with 42-years-old now the average age of a motorcycle rider killed on the U.S. roads in a traffic crash."

https://rideapart.com/articles/what...ity-statistics-reveal-about-motorcycle-safety
 
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would u rather b happy or right ¿ ¿ ¿

and at the rate we're going in terms of mortality rate per mile traveled, i suggest u try and get in some more facts and stats to make your case, bc i have hung up my proverbial leathers while u haven't...


itz late and i dont eat cookies nor drink liquids from another species of animal meant for their young.... goodnight pal..


edit: if reading is challenging, here's the only graph(ic) u need to concern urself wit tonight:

 
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"By Age: Older motorcyclists account for more than half of all motorcyclist fatalities. NHTSA data show that in 2011, 56.0 percent of motorcyclists killed in crashes were age 40 or over, compared with 44.0 percent in 2002. The number of motorcyclists age 40 and over killed in crashes increased by 78 percent from 2002 to 2011. In contrast, fatalities among young motorcyclists have declined, relative to other age groups. In 2011 fatalities in the under 30-year-old group dropped to 26.5 percent of total motorcyclists killed in crashes from 31.9 percent in 2002. Fatalities among motorcyclists in the 30-to 39-year-old group fell to 17.9 percent in 2011 from 23.9 percent in 2002. NHTSA says that the average age of motorcycle riders killed in crashes was 42 in 2011.

Older riders appear to sustain more serious injuries than younger riders. Researchers from Brown University cited declines in vision and reaction time, along with the larger-sized bikes that older riders favor, which tend to roll over more often, and the increased fragility among older people as the causes. The study used data on riders age 20 and over who needed emergency medical care following motorcycle crashes from 2001 to 2008. The riders were put in three groups by age: 20 to 39, 40 to 59, and 60 and over. The data showed that while injury rates were rising for all age groups, the steepest rise occurred in the 60 and over group, who were two and a half times more likely to have serious injuries than the youngest group. They were three times more likely to be admitted to the hospital. The middle and older groups were also more likely to sustain fractures, dislocations and other injuries, such as brain damage, than the youngest group. The authors published findings in the journal Injury Prevention in February 2013. The study is entitled Injury patterns and severity among motorcyclists treated in US emergency departments, 2001-2008: a comparison of younger and older riders." from Motorcycle Crashes | III


"Older motorcyclists (40 years and up) account for 75% of all motorcyclists' deaths over this 10-year period with 42-years-old now the average age of a motorcycle rider killed on the U.S. roads in a traffic crash."

https://rideapart.com/articles/what...ity-statistics-reveal-about-motorcycle-safety

I'm sorry you don't understand just about everything previous stated, but I thank you for at least providing the information originally requested - even if your signal:noise ratio is pathetically low.
 
I'm sorry you don't understand just about everything previous stated, but I thank you for at least providing the information originally requested - even if your signal:noise ratio is pathetically low.

LOL! nice try, again and again. oh and i think instead of replying from now on u may just simply want to stare at that graph(ic)/urself.

and it would be even more apropos to post up that pic of urz truly now, again.

this forum....is....just....so....awesome! HAHAHAAAAAAAAA

edit: and ur lucky i'm as lazy as i am...now go run along and poison urself wit sum of those cookies...
 
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but seriously back on topic and all kidding aside, i heard that RSR Racer put a deposit on a new H2 and is looking for someone to ride ..... -- i think you'd be perfect Jello if u dont mind donning a blonde wig... match made in heaven!
 
you mods should have saved my stats....just for Jello's sake LOL..
 

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