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Macattack said:
… these rules you people have laid down dont hold water…
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“You people”? lol

As you get more emotional, your ability to engage in civil debate devolves. If you reference post 249, you’ll see I agree the riders are all very skilled.

Two former MotoGP riders, both of whom raced against Marc (one of whom won a championship against him), have recently identified Marc as the best rider on the grid.

But what do they know? Your opinion is probably more credible than theirs. :)
 
craig bush said:
“You people”? lol

As you get more emotional, your ability to engage in civil debate devolves. If you reference post 249, you’ll see I agree the riders are all very skilled.

Two former MotoGP riders, both of whom raced against Marc (one of whom won a championship against him), have recently identified Marc as the best rider on the grid.

But what do they know? Your opinion is probably more credible than theirs. :)
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I take anything a rider or commentator says about any other rider with a grain of salt. They’ll always say good things about each other and try to avoid polemics no matter how much they hate each other. Silence, though, is louder than chatter
 
And next year when MM is on a Ducati and still finishes at the back or mid pack or still has to follow people around to get to Q2, the MM marks will have some other reason to blame, besides him. Injuries and Father Time have caught up to him.
 
craig bush said:
“You people”? lol

As you get more emotional, your ability to engage in civil debate devolves. If you reference post 249, you’ll see I agree the riders are all very skilled.

Two former MotoGP riders, both of whom raced against Marc (one of whom won a championship against him), have recently identified Marc as the best rider on the grid.

But what do they know? Your opinion is probably more credible than theirs. :)
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I'm telling you you're seriously misunderstanding me I've never called your opinion stupid , been belligerent , said anything offensive . you called me emotional simply because I refuse to blame the bike or see MM the way you see him. It's not a very good insult , but non the less it's an insult.
If I called your favorite racer average and you got fired up then that would be emotional. I'm not understand ? I do not dislike MM - I was just calling balls and strikes. I was not saying anything offensive , attacking you or even disregarding your opinion . I like the opposite opinions it gives me somthing to think about.
I don't care if MM wins the next championship I just dont see it happening I might even be pulling for him a bit more now that he is on a ducati.
you jumped into and took up the paul g response I made so yeah I lumped you in with him . I am not emotional simply because I disagree. I think the people who are professional racers like Lorenzo are self serving by saying this stuff. I don't disagree that mm was the most talented , I think he is no longer. I don't think Marq marquez is as good as the top racers in motogp like he was four years ago. whenever I say this people like you attack me for my opinion while saying my" ability to engage in civil debate devolves". I hope mm proves me wrong equal to how much I think I am right.
 
DCPanni said:
And next year when MM is on a Ducati and still finishes at the back or mid pack or still has to follow people around to get to Q2, the MM marks will have some other reason to blame, besides him. Injuries and Father Time have caught up to him.
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this is what I think also. I'm just not as good at saying it so succinctly .
 
I think what happened to MM was that he lost some sensation in the hand from the crash and subsequent arm surgery last year. He comes back, tucks the front time after time. As the season progresses he's relearning the sensation in that hand and he's improving. It's like fighter pilots they have to have 20/15 vision, he's recovering his 20/15 palms. That Honda is hard to ride (look at everyone else on one) but he manages somehow. I won't count him out just yet.
 
Fabio Quartararo impresses me the way he overrides the bikes flaws. I think Yamaha could theoretically make the I4 competitive they might have to ditch the crossplane or growler motor . they will definitely need to do something Areo / motor redesign or he will have to jump to one of the other bikes. Those tires were completely destroyed by the end of the race. Subjectivity measures nothing consistently .
 
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Beautiful says Pecco hasn't been the same since his wife got pregnant. I'm expecting a comeback when he realizes how much she can spend on stuff he never knew he needed.
 
I have wondered over the races subsequent to that highside if he’s trying to ride a bit too strategically. Trying to protect a lead is a guaranteed way to lose a lead in most sports.

I wouldn’t be at all upset to see Martin do it. After getting passed over for the factory seat last year he seems to have put a huge amount of work into it based on comments I’ve read about his commitment to fitness, etc, since that time and he seems the fastest rider out there at the moment. He was riding quite defensively for quite a bit of the race but the way he held on and forced that win under severe pressure was extremely impressive.

It looks like it could go right down to the wire. There really are a lot of extremely talented riders on the grid.
 

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