MotoGP 2023

More of Indonesia please. Might try to make that race next year

Beautiful says Pecco hasn't been the same since his wife got pregnant. I'm expecting a comeback when he realizes how much she can spend on stuff he never knew he needed.

baggerman said:

Beautiful says Pecco hasn't been the same since his wife got pregnant. I'm expecting a comeback when he realizes how much she can spend on stuff he never knew he needed.

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what the .... the wife has to do here ?

he had a huge high side and ended up in the hospital couple of months ago

I think the high side, getting run over and crashing out of another race has more to do with it.

I have wondered over the races subsequent to that highside if he’s trying to ride a bit too strategically. Trying to protect a lead is a guaranteed way to lose a lead in most sports.

I wouldn’t be at all upset to see Martin do it. After getting passed over for the factory seat last year he seems to have put a huge amount of work into it based on comments I’ve read about his commitment to fitness, etc, since that time and he seems the fastest rider out there at the moment. He was riding quite defensively for quite a bit of the race but the way he held on and forced that win under severe pressure was extremely impressive.

It looks like it could go right down to the wire. There really are a lot of extremely talented riders on the grid.

bp_SFV4 said:

I think the high side, getting run over and crashing out of another race has more to do with it.

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Plus Martin taking full advantage (if we ignore him crashing out of the lead the previous week).

The pressure is most certainly on!

So you're saying when you get spit, run over and end up in the hospital your wife (pregnant) would be quiet?

I doubt anyone wife would be quiet but I really doubt that's the driving force behind what could maybe be described as a more cautious approach. An injury or chucking a bike into the gravel (or worse both) would be the end of his 2023 run and he knows it.

Some interesting insight regarding Bastianini and Martin shared on 13x:

“Well ...., one day after I say that, Carlo Pernat shows up on the French post-race debrief show for some straight talk with Randy dePuniet and his colleague. I have missed the old ........ He used to be a much more regular guest and I always looked forward to it. Here's why…

He started off by saying that Ducati had finally made changes to the bike on Friday to make it more like what Bestia has been asking for and that Saturday and Sunday were the result of that.

He also said that this weekend the changes nothing for the future because Enea a contract and wasn't going anywhere. He said that the initial Ducati contract was for two years, 2023 and 2024, and that Ducati had to specify by a certain date on which team he was going to be. On August 30, he received a letter confirming that he would remain on the factory team.

Then they interrupted him to go to their colleague inside the interview room who was talking to Martin. And when they came back outside, this .... got delicious.

French dude: "Well, Carlo, you've been listening to Martin with keen interest. You are confirming that there's a signed contract but the problem is that since the beginning of the weekend, Paolo Ciabatti has been telling us that it's not impossible that Martin and Bastianini might switch places next year."

Carlo Pernat: "I have the contract in my safe and it's the same as the contract in Ducati's safe. It is signed. Nothing changes for me. If Martin wins the championship and Ducati comes to me says 'hey, we want to make a change, blah, blah, blah,' we can talk. But talking doesn't mean changing our minds. Enea wants to be on that team. The contract is very, very clear. There's no possibility for them to change it."

Randy dePuniet: "Carlo, you know very well that contracts mean nothing these days. Marquez is leaving Honda. So, if at some point they want to kick out your rider, these days, anything can happen."

Carlo Pernat: "I understand what you were saying. I see the world completely changing. But an official contract with the attorneys is an official contract. If they want to break this contract, it's going to be 1-1.2 million euros. You were a racer. You've had managers. I went to Kit (?), I went to Tissot, I went to Alpinestar and I told them that he had a three-year contract on the official team because I have the papers. If you're not on the official team, it's half as much. So all these things, plus the attorneys, and everything else, that's two million euros. If they come and tell me 'Carlo, here is €3,000,000 to switch to Pramac with the official bike', and I tell Enea 'this is the offer, what do you want to do?', I know that Enea will want to stay on the factory team."

Randy dePuniet: "What you're saying is that he's not making €3,000,000 on the factory Ducati team…"

<Both laughing>

Carlo Pernat: "What I am telling you is that there's been too much talking when we already have a signed contract with Ducati."

how can diggia not have a ride next year?

So did he ignore the Factory orders not to pass Peco?? Want was this “map A” command to him? Davido looked a bit pissed.

long story

Good cover story……

CSV4 said:

how can diggia not have a ride next year?

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lol, hopefully your day job is not team management

So you guys think team Gresini DIGI takes orders from the factory ducati team ,,, but Prima Pramac JMartin does not take orders from the factory ducati team. I've seen Martin nearly punt factory Bagnaia bike off the track. Even if what you are saying is true I'd win the race if I were Digi especially if I had no ride next year. so much talent on the track right now it's hard to comprehend . Gresini would be insane not to take first place on the podium. IMO

I don't think it was an order... feel like bagnaia would have had a reaction at the end if there was an understanding that diggia would not pass him. Instead I thought I saw him congratulate diggia.

that said, seems odd since mapping 8 was used as an order before.

I think it would have been actual cheating for gresini to not pass Bagnaia under orders from ducati because it would have been 4 points that would have been robbed from Jorge M. and no way a sat team would have passed up a #1 podium no matter what. and why would Gresini take favor over Prima pramac or visaversa they are competing for the championship and or the victory .

I think Map A was telling him to push. Simon even said he thought their strategy would be to wait until the last five laps or so to attack. On lap 14 didn’t he get the message?

ETA: The dash message was "Mapping 8."

Simon (or one of the commentators) was the one who created the controversy

It wasn't Simon, it was the dude who talks nearly nonstop. I stand corrected, it was "Mapping 8." I can't say I blame him for pushing on anyway. Probably won't be seeing him on a Ducati after that though...