New Panigale V4 is ugly?

Ducati Forum

Help Support Ducati Forum:

Is the New Panigale ugly?

  • I like the older look more

  • I like the new design best

Results are only viewable after voting.
Just sitting around in recovery boots after my bike ride passing the time…

If you want riding photos, look around the forum. I haven’t been shy…

But since you mentioned it, let’s see some photos of you on the podium or your palmares since you’re such the skilled racer
 
Now I can reach..,

IMG_1761.jpeg
 
With graphics you get to see the side vents better, and especially the nose, dig that the wings are combined with the under-nose area, very clever compared to the appendages on the prev gen.
 
I think, that in a solid glossy color, it's pretty difficult to fully see and understand what the bike looks like. Certainly from the first released photos I thought to myself, Oh no, they let the Japanese in the design studio. It's just a smoothed out Yamaha. But I'm pretty sure as we see it in person some of our opinions will change. Remembering how sleek the 1199/1299s were, not everyone was a fan of the more muscley look of the V4s. I'm definitely hoping it has more art in it than an accountants pen. Saying it is styled after the 916 is just marketing drivel.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Great marketing strategy to bend over your customers. Though I’m not surprised. Ducatisti aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed as evidence this forum haha 😂

If you think the increase in price is bad for the S, it’s going to be even worse for the R. Not sure how you rationalize ponying up $45k+ to race amateurs or do trackdays when there’s cheaper and more competitive machinery out there. Who’s really the fool?
Click to expand...

I resemble that remark. I will ask you though, were is the rationality for any amateur to be in this sport? Every single item we purchase is a depreciating asset... so we are not in it for financial reasons. Every time we ride, we risk physical injury, maybe even death... illogical.

So what drives and inspires us? Different strokes for different folks is probably the best answer. Age, maturity, (not always a linear progression), financial resources, passion and emotional involvement. Everyone chooses their own heroes.

Personally, I admire those who can tinker, modify, and adapt. Maybe it's my upbringing on a farm that instilled this feeling in me? Function over form, and certainly cost, always ruled the day. Rarely did we go to town to buy things for repairs. Anytime something was "fixed", there always seemed to be a pile of "unnecessary" parts leftover. But, as much as I admire this trait, my mentality doesn't allow me to follow this methodology. I'm am mechanically inclined. I have rebuilt old engines and transmissions, and most due to my ability to focus on details and follow complicated instructions. But I'm not the mechanic you need if your car won't start.

My decision was influenced by many things, but the biggest portions were subjective ideals. Form: It's the most beautiful piece of machinery that I have ever hoped to own. Limited Availability: It's a numbered unit with a price tag that will prevent it from being common place for everyone to own. When everyone shops at Walmart for Xmas, then all the kids get the same toys because they are cheaper and mass produced. Mechanical Engineering: It's a screaming beast at 16,500 rpm with an unlimited warranty. Unlimited miles... I don't need to become a mechanic, I can just ride. Marketing: History and performance presented in a slick campaign. I'm not immune. Even though I understand that I am being manipulated, the logic doesn't overcome emotion. Is the big number 1 on the side of the bike marketing? You bet it is. Potential: I can envision myself flying on this machine. It feels so smooth and refined. Like there is nothing mechanically preventing me from my best experience on the track. It's a dream come true. Everything is up to me to improve.

As far as being rational, I have zero rebuttal. But I am already tired of the one-sided arguments. There are many factors that influence our decisions. Perhaps yours is weighted towards economy? But I don't think you can benefit from the potential cost savings without skills and knowledge to balance the form/ function ratio. Apparently you possess these, I don't.

In the end, no one's opinion will wipe the smile off my face. When you blow past me on the track, or when you admire the hefty chicken strips that I'm rockin' in the paddock, it's all good to me, and worth every penny that I have overpaid.
 

Attachments

  • IMG-20240802-WA0005.jpeg
    IMG-20240802-WA0005.jpeg
    1.5 MB
FlyingDucatiMonster said:
I resemble that remark. I will ask you though, were is the rationality for any amateur to be in this sport? Every single item we purchase is a depreciating asset... so we are not in it for financial reasons. Every time we ride, we risk physical injury, maybe even death... illogical.

So what drives and inspires us? Different strokes for different folks is probably the best answer. Age, maturity, (not always a linear progression), financial resources, passion and emotional involvement. Everyone chooses their own heroes.

Personally, I admire those who can tinker, modify, and adapt. Maybe it's my upbringing on a farm that instilled this feeling in me? Function over form, and certainly cost, always ruled the day. Rarely did we go to town to buy things for repairs. Anytime something was "fixed", there always seemed to be a pile of "unnecessary" parts leftover. But, as much as I admire this trait, my mentality doesn't allow me to follow this methodology. I'm am mechanically inclined. I have rebuilt old engines and transmissions, and most due to my ability to focus on details and follow complicated instructions. But I'm not the mechanic you need if your car won't start.

My decision was influenced by many things, but the biggest portions were subjective ideals. Form: It's the most beautiful piece of machinery that I have ever hoped to own. Limited Availability: It's a numbered unit with a price tag that will prevent it from being common place for everyone to own. When everyone shops at Walmart for Xmas, then all the kids get the same toys because they are cheaper and mass produced. Mechanical Engineering: It's a screaming beast at 16,500 rpm with an unlimited warranty. Unlimited miles... I don't need to become a mechanic, I can just ride. Marketing: History and performance presented in a slick campaign. I'm not immune. Even though I understand that I am being manipulated, the logic doesn't overcome emotion. Is the big number 1 on the side of the bike marketing? You bet it is. Potential: I can envision myself flying on this machine. It feels so smooth and refined. Like there is nothing mechanically preventing me from my best experience on the track. It's a dream come true. Everything is up to me to improve.

As far as being rational, I have zero rebuttal. But I am already tired of the one-sided arguments. There are many factors that influence our decisions. Perhaps yours is weighted towards economy? But I don't think you can benefit from the potential cost savings without skills and knowledge to balance the form/ function ratio. Apparently you possess these, I don't.

In the end, no one's opinion will wipe the smile off my face. When you blow past me on the track, or when you admire the hefty chicken strips that I'm rockin' in the paddock, it's all good to me, and worth every penny that I have overpaid.
Click to expand...

Definitely a good rationalization for buying a V4R. Whatever you need to justify it… But not to sound like a prick, how does this relate to the new 2025 PV4?
 
SuperDomestique said:
Definitely a good rationalization for buying a V4R. Whatever you need to justify it… But not to sound like a prick, how does this relate to the new 2025 PV4?
Click to expand...

My response was related to your quoted remarks, not to any particular bike or option. You stated that you weren't sure how someone could rationalize the cost expenditure, and I was explaining my reasoning.

I'm new to the forum, but I have read enough to know that there are lively discussions here, and all very similar to other forums. I'm not looking stir the pot. I'm here to read and learn. I take all of it with a grain of salt. We all have a common interest and I'm excited to be a part of it.
 

Similar threads

D
Panigale V4 throtte case switch
Replies
1
Views
209
Chriss
Chriss
mayhan1980
Panigale to Streetfighter?
Replies
7
Views
471
baggerman
B
F
Brand new panigale v4 burst in flames
2 3
Replies
40
Views
2K
NYCV4S
NYCV4S
V
2023 Panigale driver seat hight too high
Replies
9
Views
663
Drotti
D
P
SC PROJECT on Panigale V4 2022>
Replies
4
Views
1K
Rio16
Rio16

Register CTA

Register on Ducati Forum! This sidebar will go away, and you will see fewer ads.

Recent Discussions

Back
Top