New Panigale V4 is ugly?

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Is the New Panigale ugly?

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Steven31371 said:
For looks only I think the previous iteration beats it, but at least on paper this bike is leaps forward. Bigger radiator and better airflow over it should help with heating problems…more lateral flex so the bike will feel less like it’s on marbles compared to other bikes at maximum torque at lean angles. And that rear braking FOR YOU bit is epic…that’s something you don’t see on any other bike and if it works well is akin to the way Porsches driver aides are so good that they turn you into a driving hero.

They can eat a dick on that $8500 exhaust and an absurd $5000 for the ‘racing slip one’, but I suspect that engine is going to really open up with the EU 5 and USA restrictions removed.
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I will have a stock de-cat out once i get my hands on one. For roughly 1/10 of the price
 
bp_SFV4 said:
By then the S will be $40K. I want to see what's replacing the V2.
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CSV4 said:
44 teeth review on track is out
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I watched it. Actually, I thought Baron was riding rather well this time following Valia and put together a nice review. It looked like with all the data analysts there they had to work harder on the track =)
 
SuperDomestique said:
Very reminiscent of MCN‘s 2018 and 22 reviews except it’s even better and even easier to ride.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/ducati/panigale-v4s/2018/
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/ducati/panigale-v4s/2022/
I’ll be waiting for the 2027 Panigale V4, where it will ride itself and rip laps like Pecco
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This is the first time Michael Neeves has referred to a V4 Panigale as "like a computer game" (19m 18s). 44T also called it "Germanic" iirc. Sounds similar to reviews of the newest S1KR.

Edit: I guess to me, the significance of that is Neeves has always praised Ducati's electronics in the Pani's but this is the first time he seems to refer to them in a mildly derogatory way.
 
V4Al said:
This is the first time Michael Neeves has referred to a V4 Panigale as "like a computer game" (19m 18s). 44T also called it "Germanic" iirc. Sounds similar to reviews of the newest S1KR.

Edit: I guess to me, the significance of that is Neeves has always praised Ducati's electronics in the Pani's but this is the first time he seems to refer to them in a mildly derogatory way.
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To me he seemed impressed with the 2025, but not happy about. He was mentally pleased, but uninspired. Like, the bike is faster, but the experience is less emotional. I didn't get any love or enthusiasm from him for the bike. Just a simple acceptance that it was faster. It seems worth it for anyone who is truly passionate about going faster at the track - and I should caveat that by saying big tracks, or at least mid-sized.

Also, am I the only one who thought Neevsey was a bit flat. Maybe he was having an off-day. Even before the riding he's usually more into it before he starts a review.
 
The fact that they were heavily supervised by a data engineer to optimize the experience is a red flag. If you think about it, in order to ride this bike fast you have to invest in DDL ($1500) and be able to decipher and apply the data. Furthermore, they had a benchmark to compare against (Valia) so they could easily find and optimize areas to improve. It’ll be much more difficult to find time without this baseline.

What intrigued me was that the bike doesn’t go faster with less electronics. Rather it just gets harder to ride.
 
I asked about the R at the new pani launch over here last week and the very hesitant response was no release for another 2 years. Apparently they've caught wind of potential WSBK rule changes in the mix that may or may not relate to smaller capacity engines much like GP.
 
SuperDomestique said:
The fact that they were heavily supervised by a data engineer to optimize the experience is a red flag. If you think about it, in order to ride this bike fast you have to invest in DDL ($1500) and be able to decipher and apply the data. Furthermore, they had a benchmark to compare against (Valia) so they could easily find and optimize areas to improve. It’ll be much more difficult to find time without this baseline.

What intrigued me was that the bike doesn’t go faster with less electronics. Rather it just gets harder to ride.
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It's a red flag? To ride the bike fast you'll have to invest in the DDL and be able to decipher and apply data? I guess the bike does suck.

Newly unveiled and never ridden bike and you think a journalist is gonna show up, the company gives them zero input or info, and then expects them to enjoy the bike all day, when they are offering bleeding-edge tech that they wont know how to optimize in the moment? What's the point of the amazing tech if no one knows how to use it?

The data is there like it would be for any bike and any rider, with someone who knows how to share data with their rider. How is this specific to this Panigale, and not applicable to ANY bike, at any track with any rider?

Who isnt going to be able to go faster on 'X' bike at 'X' track with a data guy telling them how early on the brakes they are or how they can go harder on throttle in a section they aren't confident in, comparing to a hot lap by a pro with intimate knowledge of a brand new release?

Such a weird take on the release. I'll never have the data and a data guy to coach me on all my shortcomings on track- but I think it's cool as hell those guys got that for the day. Does it make the bike look like less fun that most people wont have that experience? Not a chance. Would those guys all have gone slow without the data... C'mon.


Why would a rider go faster with less electronics on a brand new, cutting edge Super Bike?
 
thorny said:
I watched it. Actually, I thought Baron was riding rather well this time following Valia and put together a nice review. It looked like with all the data analysts there they had to work harder on the track =)
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He’s rather fast, despite his size. I generally prefer his reviews to Fagan’s.
 

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