Running in a new V4

craig bush · Oct 3, 2022

fire said:
So instead of Googling the actual idiom I used to learn what it means, you Googled "idiom" and decided because you've never heard of the idiom I used before it must not be an idiom? This is the hill you want to die on? (That's an idiom too btw, sounds really violent, eh? Bet you heard of it though...)

Ok well I'll give you some links then:

Woke Up And Chose Violence - What does it mean?

Woke Up And Chose Violence is slang for "Decided to be hostile." See an example of how people use it.

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Urban Dictionary: woke up and chose violence

woke up and chose violence — the act of awakening and greeting the day with absolutely the worst decision that you could possibly make. And sometimes it is actually violence. It’s starting the day and performing any action that unalterably changes your life forever.

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What Does "Woke up And Chose Violence" Mean?

The phrase "Woke up and chose violence" refers to someone who is causing chaos in a particular setting.

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Wake Up And Choose Violence | Know Your Meme

Wake Up and Choose Violence is a catchphrase used online to describe a person or animal who is particularly mean-spirited or chaotic, similar to I Think I

knowyourmeme.com

Language is fluid and evolves as new generations grow up and cultural norms change. That's how idioms work. It's just the nature of conversation.

As I was. Thanks for the education.

SuperDomestique · Oct 3, 2022

craig bush said:
As I was. Thanks for the education.

@fire is literally dying on this hill and can’t see the light. That’s a real idiom

Paul G · Oct 3, 2022

Maybe fire hasn't seen the threads where 5% of the engine accumulates on the drain plug at each oil change

Paul G · Oct 3, 2022

SuperDomestique said:
@fire is literally dying on this hill and can’t see the light. That’s a real idiom

Well lads, I reckon Fire fits right in then

airjawed · Oct 3, 2022

I'm pretty sure ducati does engine break in at the factory for the panigale. Lots of companies do. The break in is for other components (tires and brakes) and for riders to get familiar with the bike.

RickD996 · Oct 3, 2022

I'm confused. When the OP asks for people's opinions/perspective, are we now not supposed to give them?
And, if a Youtube video is full of holes, are we supposed to follow it nonetheless?
And, if someone has a different opinion to ours, should we then try and aggressively force our opinion over their's?

Just trying to clarify the forum rules. It's so confusing.

Paul G · Oct 3, 2022

It's pretty simple, if you want to know how to run in your 40k, 215hp plus desmodromic bike; RTFM!

If you want to take a shortcut and get free high quality advice from not the factory then go on a forum drop the equivalent to which oil is best question, stand back and watch the monkeys throw .... at each other.

andyb · Oct 3, 2022

Hands up if you have been to the factory and done the tour….. see what occurs with each bike before it leaves the production line….

Paul G · Oct 4, 2022

They rev them out for sure but its low load and for a short time

craig bush · Oct 4, 2022

Anyone have any idea why Ducati doesn’t just set the rev limit to 6k for the first 600 miles and require a dealer reset or unlock at the time of the first service? I confirmed this weekend at COTA that is what bmw is doing with new s1000rr’s.

Dunkeh · Oct 4, 2022

craig bush said:
Anyone have any idea why Ducati doesn’t just set the rev limit to 6k for the first 600 miles and require a dealer reset or unlock at the time of the first service? I confirmed this weekend at COTA that is what bmw is doing with new s1000rr’s.

It seems like an easy win if they want people to follow the break in. I know the tach turns yellow at 6k until the service to remove it has been done, but it'll let you rev past it.

airjawed · Oct 4, 2022

Reading the manual without discretion has its downside. I say this because the manual is written for legal reasons as well. Take tire pressure for example. So, it is completely reasonable to question the documentation. It's great to see people seek further understanding.

I think simply assuming break in is synonymous with ring sealing alone is where a lot of back and forth is coming from. Motorcycles have many parts and systems. From what i understand the rings break in very quickly and majority of that happens in factory. But, there are many other systems that would benefit from further breakin. Brake pads and rotors for example. Also, emissions take time to calibrate completely.

So, break in isn't just a conversation regarding piston rings. No one is outright wrong and critical thinking is prudent.

Most people are smarter than you think. But apparently most are also angrier than you would think as well!

Paul G · Oct 4, 2022

craig bush said:
Anyone have any idea why Ducati doesn’t just set the rev limit to 6k for the first 600 miles and require a dealer reset or unlock at the time of the first service? I confirmed this weekend at COTA that is what bmw is doing with new s1000rr’s.

They dont like their owners arguing on forums?

RickD996 · Oct 4, 2022

Paul G said:
They dont like their owners arguing on forums?

The opposite, they do! It's the Italian way :'D

Paul G · Oct 4, 2022

SuperDomestique · Oct 4, 2022

craig bush said:
Anyone have any idea why Ducati doesn’t just set the rev limit to 6k for the first 600 miles and require a dealer reset or unlock at the time of the first service? I confirmed this weekend at COTA that is what bmw is doing with new s1000rr’s.

Free will. Ducati as an Italian company is rooted in Catholicism and the run-in is like Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. On one hand, you can be Adam and be a boy scout and run the bike in according to the manual. On the other, you can be Eve and get cray and do lines of coke off an apple and throw caution to the wind.

Or Luigi was lazy and didn’t feel like writing that code.

craig bush · Oct 4, 2022

RickD996 said:
The opposite, they do! It's the Italian way :'D

I was gonna say the same - they must want us arguing. If they didn’t, they’d lock the break-in rev limit and only unlock it when you come in for the first service. lol

rikkie07 · Oct 12, 2022

I can't speak for Ducati but i know from first hand that the factory BMW EWC team engines have a running-in periode of 800km at 8000 rpm. The factory is very serious about this running-in periode so who am I to think different then.
There engines (M1000RR) are build at the factory and not a privateer.
I don't think it's legal to limit the RPM's during the running-in periode for safety reasons on a road bike.

BP PanigaleV4S · Oct 12, 2022

craig bush · Oct 12, 2022

rikkie07 said:
I can't speak for Ducati but i know from first hand that the factory BMW EWC team engines have a running-in periode of 800km at 8000 rpm. The factory is very serious about this running-in periode so who am I to think different then.
There engines (M1000RR) are build at the factory and not a privateer.
I don't think it's legal to limit the RPM's during the running-in periode for safety reasons on a road bike.

I don’t know if it’s legal or not, but a friend of mine recently took delivery and he reported that the rev limit was locked until being unlocked at the first service.

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