Some track day prep questions

Vbreeze said:

Yoga, and being very consistent at it will help enormously at maintaining and improving general mobility. Find a real yoga instructor who studied in India not a gym rat who pretends. The difference is huge.
Tire wear is just showing either you are more shy on the left turns at that track or you may be hanging off further on the left turns for example, so your bike has less lean on one side. Maybe it's your knee. Generally speaking, the engine of the Panigale is flipped reverse normal so the gyroscopic forces make Right turns feel more confident than Left. This is opposite every other bike on the planet which turns Left easier, and Right, much less easy. The Panigale does both more evenly, just favors Right.

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That would make sense regarding body position and tyre wear - I find it easier to get the left inside foot in a better position and get further off the bike than when the right foot is the inside foot. The tightest turn at Most is the left-hand turn 2. I would have thought the front tyre would show the same difference between each side as the back - or maybe it does have the same difference but it's easier to notice on the back tyre. It's probably that. I don't really have a preference between left and right turns and the difference in lean angle being down to body position sounds right.

Yoga is probably a good idea and you're not the first to suggest it. It's starting to look like I might have to make some effort if I want to continue doing this and progress, which I do.

On another note, one of the guys there had a 'Moto2' bike and also Kramer were there with their bikes, which were particularly lovely and felt great ergonomically (I didn't ride one - just sat on it).

You won’t believe how yoga changes your mental game on the track as well. My favorite race instructor teaches with it.
It all goes together. best yoga trick ever: When you can’t get into the flow for whatever reason, just do yoga breathing, look where you want to go, and pay attention only to your hands. Later with more body awareness, you’ll think about only one knuckle. Look without thinking. All of the sudden, it’s all easy. You just start going faster.

Vbreeze said:

You won’t believe how yoga changes your mental game on the track as well. My favorite race instructor teaches with it.
It all goes together. best yoga trick ever: When you can’t get into the flow for whatever reason, just do yoga breathing, look where you want to go, and pay attention only to your hands. Later with more body awareness, you’ll think about only one knuckle. Look without thinking. All of the sudden, it’s all easy. You just start going faster.

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It’s funny how what feels like a slow lap turns out to be a faster one. It had the least lean and throttle and a slower top speed as well, yet it was 6 seconds faster.

I’ll look into the yoga, as my lack of hip mobility is stopping me from getting my body position right.

I’m consistent though – 38 seconds slower than the lap record at Brno, and I was exactly the same at Most.

Yoga and cycling are probably the best sports for trackday riding

Why those two in particular?

bp_SFV4 said:

Why those two in particular?

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Flexibility and static strength = yoga. Aerobic capacity and bike handling = cycling (it’s also easy on the body). There’s a reason a lot of pro motorcycle racers are also avid (if not pro-level i.e. Crutchlow) cyclists. The ones I know off hand are Aleix, Redding, Gerloff, Baz, Marquez bros, Rea, Pedrosa, Binder, Maverick, Oliveira, Miller, Mir, Rins.

SuperDomestique said:

Yoga and cycling are probably the best sports for trackday riding

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Me in lycra? No chance…

Czech drivers being what they are, there’s no chance of me going on the road with a bicycle. I have a rowing machine which has been in dry dock for a few months. I need to get back on that. It’s one of the best all-round exercises and low impact.

I was using it for a few months before I did my first track day and I was actually able to get my feet in better positions on that first day than I can now, so my hip mobility has decreased since not using it. I was actually pushing against the kickplate hard enough in that first track weekend that it was touching the carbon swingarm cover and made a scratch on it, so I think I was getting a better foot position then (at least on that side). It’s far enough away from the swingarm cover that it wouldn’t touch without some force against it. Incidentally, I don’t think it would touch the swingarm without the cover there.

SuperDomestique said:

Si tienes dificultades para conseguir un juego de ruedas Mg adecuado, hazte con el M10RS/RR Corse Moto3. Ducati Corse utiliza una versión de M10 en lugar de M9RS. Curiosamente, Ducati Corse también utiliza una rueda delantera que no puedo ubicar. Parece un OZ, pero el OZ no fabrica una rueda delantera bifurcada y tiene marcas Marchesini.

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Supuestamente cuestan £ 3400, pero probablemente tengan un tiempo de espera. Tampoco se sabe si Marchesini realmente fabrica un set para el V4.

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Front wheel looks like a Titax

spooky said:

Me in lycra? No chance…

Czech drivers being what they are, there’s no chance of me going on the road with a bicycle. I have a rowing machine which has been in dry dock for a few months. I need to get back on that. It’s one of the best all-round exercises and low impact.

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ah don't be a ....... pussy and eat it up

I cycle in Italy and having no issues with drivers.

panibadboy said:

ah don't be a ....... pussy and eat it up

I cycle in Italy and having no issues with drivers.

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Gran fondo strade bianche is on my bucket list.

panibadboy said:

ah don't be a ....... pussy and eat it up

I cycle in Italy and having no issues with drivers.

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They had to introduce a law here fairly recently that said cars must be at least two metres away when overtaking a bicycle because it was so dangerous for cyclists.

Feckin cyclists!

Tyres...

I was using the DOT Supercorsa SC3 tyres last year and liked them. They are probably half-worn and have been sitting in my garage since October (not heated but not overly cold as it's got a couple of freezers in there).

1. Are the tyres likely to be fine or is it better to start with a fresh set (I'm not scrimping to save every penny).

2. A chap told me to move to try the SC3 slicks as I'm already using the same compound already. Apparently once you've tried slicks you don't want to go back. And yes, I know the tyres are not holding me back or going to make me faster - I'm just considering it from a confidence point of view and some curiosity as I've never tried them. Plus they seem quite a bit cheaper than the DOT tyres, which is no bad thing. Others have suggested other compounds (often SC2 front and SC1 rear, depending on temperature) but I wonder if there's any issue keeping heat in them when going with compounds other than SC3.

3. A couple of chaps said to go with Bridgestone V02 slicks as they last longer. Similar question to above with regard to keeping heat in them, compounds and general thoughts.

Again, I'm not trying to chase tenths - I've got another 20 seconds to improve before I think I'll be pushing things a bit and I am fully aware that people who are far better riders than I am can fly around the track much faster than me on road tyres - but I am curious about trying them and in my head I think it would give some confidence.

Thoughts on the above? They will be used at Most and Brno if that has some influence on it, which it might.

I've got the V4R booked in for its first service after completing an incredibly tedious run-in period... that wasn't particularly fun. Can't wait to get on track with it in a few weeks and open it up a bit.

I need a hang emoji for this conversation.........

tyres are a personal choice based on budget, usage, ability, riding style, availability, ambient temperature, temperature of use........ and ooh budget.

its all a compromise, what's the point at the moment in having ScX slicks for 2.32 at Brno...genuine question!

If you want to try slicks then go for the SC3 rear in 200 65, and the front SC1 in 125/70. good safe combination and the rear will take the grief of poor suspension set up and ..... track surface]]and some good quality tyre warmers with a temp read out

andyb said:

I need a hang emoji for this conversation.........

tyres are a personal choice based on budget, usage, ability, riding style, availability, ambient temperature, temperature of use........ and ooh budget.

its all a compromise, what's the point at the moment in having ScX slicks for 2.32 at Brno...genuine question!

If you want to try slicks then go for the SC3 rear in 200 65, and the front SC1 in 125/70. good safe combination and the rear will take the grief of poor suspension set up and ..... track surface]]and some good quality tyre warmers with a temp read out

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I thought "What's the point" was answered in my question, in the hope I wouldn't have to answer it... Anyhoo, confidence, curiosity and expecting times to keep improving. Don't forget I've only done a few track events and I wasn't particularly young when I started. I expect times to continue coming down but I'm not chasing anything - step by step, developing technique, etc.

I've got Thermal Technology TriZone warmers.

Interesting regarding the sizes. I've seen this mentioned quite a bit.

The surface at Most isn't all that old, hence they have WSBK, and I think it's pretty good. I didn't think Brno was particularly bad but I believe it's going to improve in the reasonably near future as the new owner develops thing to try and get MotoGP back.

spooky said:

I thought "What's the point" was answered in my question, in the hope I wouldn't have to answer it... Anyhoo, confidence, curiosity and expecting times to keep improving. Don't forget I've only done a few track events and I wasn't particularly young when I started. I expect times to continue coming down but I'm not chasing anything - step by step, developing technique, etc.

I've got Thermal Technology TriZone warmers.

Interesting regarding the sizes. I've seen this mentioned quite a bit.

The surface at Most isn't all that old, hence they have WSBK, and I think it's pretty good. I didn't think Brno was particularly bad but I believe it's going to improve in the reasonably near future as the new owner develops thing to try and get MotoGP back.

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Rtfi…. Wtp… re scX ….!

Going to Bridgestones may affect handling since the rear is a bit smaller than the 200/60. V02 slick in the 660OD is about 8 mm smaller than DSC

200/65….. and 125 front…that’s what’s available now….

andyb said:

200/65….. and 125 front…that’s what’s available now….

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DSC SC3 DOT is only 200/60

Which ones do you use….?