Throttle response V4 2022

WetDog Racing · Aug 16, 2022

Hi guys, slowly finishing setting up the V4 2022 (track use only). First test on track earlier today and bike feels amazing and completely unlike my r1. Just one thing that surprised me a little. The throttle seems super smooth, but feels like there is a delay in throttle response (throttle bodies opening with a lag/delay to throttle movement). I was thinking in race A mode with engine power on "high" it should be 1 to 1 ratio... Any one has any input on that?

Does it need to be set up with a woolich tune? For info I have a T800 upmap matched to the termi exhaust.

Thanks in advance for the help

thejellyo · Aug 16, 2022

I cant remember fully but does RACE A default in "high" or "full" power mode?

High will give you full power but restrict how much you get for the first few gears, full power only restricts the power in first gear.

I don't think any of the default modes came with "full" power mode set up by default, I had to manually customize the modes to put full power

RickD996 · Aug 16, 2022

Yes, I think engine power in 'high', still leaves throttle in 'dynamic'? 'Full' gives high engine power and high throttle. Or, something along those lines.

But, if you go into settings, rider modes, you'll see the differences in engine power between Race A and Race B.

I have the Woolich tune, and they made big changes to the throttle tables. I would have thought the Up-Map T800 does too?

DeussenEngines · Aug 16, 2022

WetDog Racing said:
Hi guys, slowly finishing setting up the V4 2022 (track use only). First test on track earlier today and bike feels amazing and completely unlike my r1. Just one thing that surprised me a little. The throttle seems super smooth, but feels like there is a delay in throttle response (throttle bodies opening with a lag/delay to throttle movement). I was thinking in race A mode with engine power on "high" it should be 1 to 1 ratio... Any one has any input on that?

Does it need to be set up with a woolich tune? For info I have a T800 upmap matched to the termi exhaust.

Thanks in advance for the help

Starting in 2022 there is a 4th engine power mode added which is not assigned to any riding mode by default.

As other users already noted it does have a slightly restricted torque request map in 1st gear only. Then all other gears use the same torque request map without restrictions.

The maps altered by Termignoni to tune to their exhaust could also have an impact on drivability if not handled properly. I would recommend you put the original map back in the ECU and see if the lag is still there or not.

There shouldn’t be any lag in the HIGH and FULL engine power modes.

WetDog Racing · Aug 16, 2022

Thanks guys, I also saw that DTC description below which might be causing that delay feeling. So I'll start with putting the bike in FULL mode and DTC down to 1. If still an issue, test with the stock map.

Dont get me wrong, the bike generally feels great and a lot of fun. Much better than I expected. FKR cartridges should be in this week, so next test will be interesting.

BP PanigaleV4S · Aug 16, 2022

I really wonder what level dudes are riding at where they second guess all of the likely well tested and sorted out mapping and traction controls.

RickD996 · Aug 16, 2022

The DTC and lower engine power maps absolutely rob you of throttle feel. They are certainly better in their lowest settings (DTC), but, arguably, still too intrusive.

RickD996 · Aug 16, 2022

DSC can be in 1 or 2, depending on track and tyres.

WetDog Racing · Aug 16, 2022

RickD996 said:
The DTC and lower engine power maps absolutely rob you of throttle feel. They are certainly better in their lowest settings (DTC), but, arguably, still too intrusive.

Will get the slick map installed later this month

JOS · Feb 21, 2023

How was the slick map?, and does that go with another mapping like up-map?
Would be sad to loose the other stuff done if you go with slick map.
Some feedback would be nice!

Alkhater · Feb 21, 2023

JOS said:
How was the slick map?, and does that go with another mapping like up-map?
Would be sad to loose the other stuff done if you go with slick map.
Some feedback would be nice!

As far as I know the DTC EVO3 slick software isn’t affected by flash tunes though I might be wrong in this.

@DeussenEngines can confirm no doubt.

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