1199 R Superleggera

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RD16RR said:
-- its the "sport adventure" trend, or the cafe idea boosting them up a bit..

-- quadrupling from 500 units per year shouldn't be hard :)
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Hmmm...Where have I heard the number 500 mentioned before???:p
 
apart from food, drink and shelter, none of needs anything... but let s not call it a life... :)
 
TricoloreSF said:
Zx6's?!...that's still plenty for the road. I have a blast on my 60hp MotoGuzzi on the street.;)
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I had a zx6e that was fun and comfy for long trips. But it was no 848 ;) and you surely don't get that .... eatin grin the 1199 gives you


My best friend rides a Guzzi, I don't care what anyone rides if your not on your A game you play hell keeping up with him in the tight stuff. That's one hell of a sweet handling motorcycle.


Now that I have the 1199 he's adding a new gsxr1000 to his stable just so I don't walk away from him in the high speed stuff.
 
Hex said:
STW, I hear what you are saying man, but this bike will make you or anyone faster around a track vs. a heavily modified base. The electronics package on the SL alone will enable anyone to access more of this bike's potential vs. whatever electronics you put on a heavily modified base. The base will ultimately be harder in terms of accessing its potential vs the sophisticated SL. And, the modified base will be sitting at the side of the track broken if you try to keep the SL in sight for any length of time. The SL's parts and technology working together make it exponentially better in terms of performance and accessibility than any base modified to any level.
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OMG!!!! you drink the ducati kool-aid LOL:eek:
 
Hex said:
STW, I hear what you are saying man, but this bike will make you or anyone faster around a track vs. a heavily modified base. The electronics package on the SL alone will enable anyone to access more of this bike's potential vs. whatever electronics you put on a heavily modified base. The base will ultimately be harder in terms of accessing its potential vs the sophisticated SL. And, the modified base will be sitting at the side of the track broken if you try to keep the SL in sight for any length of time. The SL's parts and technology working together make it exponentially better in terms of performance and accessibility than any base modified to any level.
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Ahhhh man ..... I don't know where to start..... First off as steve/stw said in his earlier post unless your in the top 5% percentile or lets just say if it's stoner and Marquez going at it on a base and sl then there will be a slight notice ... No he won't lap him can be less then a second or more but hey not 65grand faster !!! Now lets say you were double hex and you and your double start at the track together against the sl and base your time will be very close or identical based on your skill only !


And for people shitting on others for buying a 65k bike let them be!!! People buy a Rolex submariner and they are not divers !!! Breitling and they are not pilots !!! Nissan gtr's and they are not racers !!! Can anyone just enjoy their .... without all you financial advisors and accountants .... Kope I don't know how fast you are but not sure if 10 unicorns can help us ... Imma lose 10lbs first .... Tom I'm buying a gtr a sl and a desmosedici and in the words of the wise kanye west : YOU CAN'T TELL ME NOTHING !!!!
 
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quackquack said:
Ahhhh man ..... I don't know where to start..... First off as steve/stw said in his earlier post unless your in the top 5% percentile or lets just say if it's stoner and Marquez going at it on a base and sl then there will be a slight notice ... No he won't lap him can be less then a second or more but hey not 65grand faster !!! Now lets say you were double hex and you and your double start at the track together against the sl and base your time will be very close or identical based on your skill only !


And for people shitting on others for buying a 65k bike let them be!!! People buy a Rolex submariner and they are not divers !!! Breitling and they are not pilots !!! Nissan the's and they are not racers !!! Can anyone just enjoy they're .... without all you financial advisors and accountants .... Kope I don't know how fast you are but not sure if 10 unicorns can help us ... Imma lose 10lbs first .... Tom I'm buying a gtr a sl and a desmisedici and in the words of the wise kanye west : YOU CAN'T TELL ME NOTHING !!!!
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their ....:)
 
lap times

There is no cool aid involved. Do I love Ducati's? You bet. However, I have owned and ridden many superbikes in my forty plus years of riding and in the early years they were mostly from Japan. So I love a good sportbike regardless of where it's made. I understand what some of you guys are saying about lap times being fairly close with an equal rider on the base and the SL, but I think that for various reasons, you are underestimating the bikes potential as a factory package. The Ducati test rider set an amazing time around Mugello, one he could never approach on a base. Now, you may not beleive this claim made by Ducati and that's fine but if its true, its the first evidence supporting what I am saying. We have no outside data to go on yet but its pretty clear that this bike is something really special. It's far from the parts bin exercise many guys are trying to characterize it as. I beleive, and you guys will be able to say so later if I'm wrong, that when the magazines test this bike they will be blown away and they will add credibillity to what I am saying now. Think about this; how much faster is a world superbike vs. a world superstock bike? Come on guys. The lightness of the package, the turn in with the higher level suspension and the superlight wheels, the acceleration from the increased power and lighter weight, not to mention the deceleration from the lighter weight, which is as improtant as acceleration in my opinion, the race spec electronics, it goes on and on. Anyway, I acknowledge we really don't know yet, so none of us can say unequivocally, but I am very optimistic. I respect your opinions guys, I am just saying that I think there is some underestimation going on in terms of this bikes potential.
 
^ you re correct on 1 stance only.... a professional rider.... take an average rider.. whos abilities are just that average.. that means that they are NOT taking full advantage of the bikes potential.. that person has not gained the skills to use 20 lbs lighter or 15 extra hp... they will still ride the way they ride.. they wont know how to adjust their style to the little nuances of the superior bike. you cant argue they will they will magically gain the skills needed to take advantage of the bike... so honestly a average rider on a 1199 base and on a SL will be similar! NOW that being said a professional rider that understand and can adapt riding styles for different bikes and that are honestly using said bike to its max potential will be able to take big gains based on the bikes abilities... to slow it down some.. when your average the rider is the limitation when your rossi/marquez/stoner whomever pick your poison then the bike is the limitation. do I need to explain further for the slow ones? :)
 

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