2023 V4R info to keep in mind

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@Steven31371 The swingarm pivot is delivered in a different position (+1) on the 2023 V4R but the adjustability is exactly the same as the 2019 V4R, which is delivered in -3 position. I have tried all positions on track and the best is neither of these. The gear ratios are apparently different but the gearing, as in final ratio, is the same.
 
roadracerx said:
@Steven31371 The swingarm pivot is delivered in a different position (+1) on the 2023 V4R but the adjustability is exactly the same as the 2019 V4R, which is delivered in -3 position. I have tried all positions on track and the best is neither of these. The gear ratios are apparently different but the gearing, as in final ratio, is the same
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Which is the best position? Thanks
 
roadracerx said:
So......I just rode a 2023 V4R with full Akrapovic exhaust back-to-back-to-back with my 2019 V4R. I have to say I can't tell much difference in the handling, no difference in the tank or the seat and the new bike is runs hotter due to the exhaust running up the side!

My V4R soaks up the bumps better (tweaked stock suspension) but I set it up so....

The quick shifter on the new bike is a tiny bit better and I mean tiny.

The clutch makes WAY less noise and mine has new plates so apples-to-apples here.

The new "fan strategy" just means it comes on sooner.

I felt a small change in the smoothness of the traction control and the dash has a better info-graphic although I am barely looking at it when I ride quickly.

I am having trouble rationalizing the purchase of a new V4R that will cost me the better part of 60K which of course means I sell my V4R, which only has a thousand miles on it for 37K meaning it will cost me around 23K and about 40 hours of my time to prep the new and old bikes.

I am torn.
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was the 23 stock geometry ?
 
roadracerx said:
@Steven31371 The swingarm pivot is delivered in a different position (+1) on the 2023 V4R but the adjustability is exactly the same as the 2019 V4R, which is delivered in -3 position. I have tried all positions on track and the best is neither of these. The gear ratios are apparently different but the gearing, as in final ratio, is the same.
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actually, the gear ratios as in gearbox are the same as the base 22 on..... the final ratio, ie front and rear sprockets are different because the engines are different.

it also seems the best SA position, which is a subjective thing, is the -1........ the fixed position the base 22> is in..
 
Better the devil you know!

But if you didn’t have any doubt then you wouldn’t have concluded your observations with a question.

Personally, as an owner of both a ‘21 SF V4S and a ‘22 Panigale V4 I find that newer (‘22+) bikes more refined electronically which can be rectified with a tune where it matters most.

I would say that the upgrade to the newer bikes is objectively worth $2k… if you find that you have to pay more then it isn’t worth it imo.

There’s always the allure and excitement of getting the newer bike and the V4 has likely reached the pinnacle of its development but if there aren’t any problems with the 2019 then I don’t see any reason to upgrade.

Speaking of problems, I’ve already read about several ‘23 bikes with the water pump failure which in my opinion is due to oil over filling. My point is that the new bikes are only a marginal step forward.
 
andyb said:
actually, the gear ratios as in gearbox are the same as the base 22 on..... the final ratio, ie front and rear sprockets are different because the engines are different.

it also seems the best SA position, which is a subjective thing, is the -1........ the fixed position the base 22> is in..
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I think what he’s saying is that the primary gear ratios are different between 19 and 23 R but final drive remains same at 15/42.
 
SuperDomestique said:
I think what he’s saying is that the primary gear ratios are different between 19 and 23 R but final drive remains same at 15/42.
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yes and im saying the 2023R on gearbox and primary drive is the same as the 22 on base ...just as it was 2019 R and base.


Yes all 2019 models versus all 2022 models are different.
 
spooky said:
Did you mean oil or did you mean coolant?
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agreed. I see no relation between oil and coolant levels. There have been coolant issues since 2018. Some bikes have the issue and some don't. My 2020 Streetfighter V4 did and it was replaced under warranty when I first noticed a bit of coolant pooling between the heads and when I would park the bike putting it on the kickstand the pooled coolant would spill out. My bike had maybe 300 miles on it when I noticed it and the dealership fixed it. I had another customer that continued to ride the bike and the coolant got low and this warped his heads on the motor. THANKFULLY he had the extended warranty so that $12,000 job was fixed for free on his 2019 V4R!
 
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