2023 V4R info to keep in mind

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spooky said:
Did you mean oil or did you mean coolant?
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agreed. I see no relation between oil and coolant levels. There have been coolant issues since 2018. Some bikes have the issue and some don't. My 2020 Streetfighter V4 did and it was replaced under warranty when I first noticed a bit of coolant pooling between the heads and when I would park the bike putting it on the kickstand the pooled coolant would spill out. My bike had maybe 300 miles on it when I noticed it and the dealership fixed it. I had another customer that continued to ride the bike and the coolant got low and this warped his heads on the motor. THANKFULLY he had the extended warranty so that $12,000 job was fixed for free on his 2019 V4R!
 
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roadracerx said:
WAY lighter than the 400 and almost triple the power! :)
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I used to love the old RGV250 and the GSRX400, which was my favourite of the 400s for some reason (and I rode all of them).

Just had a look at the claimed specs for the GSZR400 - 160kg and 59hp... well it felt plenty fast on the twisty roads! :oops:🤣 I was riding a new FZR600R at the time, which was a fun bike.

I'm really very, very tempted by the Kramer - very light, plenty of power for the weight, updateable electronics, top-quality components... Probably more fun than my SP2 on track and more accessible and I don't really want to completely strip my SP2 down to use as a track bike, although I could remove the lights at both ends as I'm not really using it on the road (it's handy to be able to pop the licence plate holder on and ride it to the dealer for a service as I don't have a van and have to rent one each time I go to the track).

Or maybe there's someone with the newest RC-8C that bitterly regrets the purchase, hasn't used it and would love to swap it for a barely ridden, one careful owner SP2... 🤣
 
FWIW, I rode w at Laguna a guy that had an RC 8C and RS660 Extrema and he said RC 8C was the better out of the 2. It’s like a modern Gixxer 750. Right in that sweet spot of enough power (but not too much) and great handling.

@roadracerx Would Kramer upgrade your 8C to the GP2 RR spec (or is it even necessary? )?
 
Then you go looking online and find a Suter MotoGP bike rebuilt for track use, with a detuned (215bhp) BMW engine at 142kg… That might be a bit too much bike… 🤣
 
SuperDomestique said:
FWIW, I rode w at Laguna a guy that had an RC 8C and RS660 Extrema and he said RC 8C was the better out of the 2. It’s like a modern Gixxer 750. Right in that sweet spot of enough power (but not too much) and great handling.

@roadracerx Would Kramer upgrade your 8C to the GP2 RR spec (or is it even necessary? )?
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There isn't anything to upgrade....the additional 3 hp is from the new ecu. no other real changes and the RC looks WAY better IMHO.
 
roadracerx said:
There isn't anything to upgrade....the additional 3 hp is from the new ecu. no other real changes and the RC looks WAY better IMHO.
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I think the electronics are different and also user-upgradeable on the GP2 RR. I thought it has some different internals as well?

Cosmetically the RC probably has the edge.
 
@spooky I think intake cams and there is now an IMU but it's unnecessary. The R6 has no IMU and still arguably the best middleweight bike. I doubt there will be any real difference in lap times. The 1st version of the RC (orange bike) didn't have TC or wheelie control. Version 2 (black bike) does have these rider aids but I run everything in the lowest setting. I learned to ride before electronics.
 

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