Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread

[BMW Alpina]

OK, Time for another Weekend Update

I decided to install my 17RCS Corsa Corta Brake Master Cylinder with the Bike Sport Developments Switches today, here are the steps:

Take out out all the Rubber Bands that hold the wiring and remove the whole throttle grip assy by removing the 2 black phillips screws behind the plastic housing (no need to remove the silver with unique head screws) and slide it out of the handlebar.
You need to take them out so you can have access to insert the tools needed to remove the starter switch assy.


Use Ducati Special Tools and insert it on the holes on the outer lower side of the start switch assy to release the latch and then slide it out (oh don't forget to disconnect the plug goes into the start switch assy):



Then install back the whole throttle grip assy, and if you like to "upgrade the looks", you can replace the black phillips screws with a ProTi Titanium Screws
ProTi did not make the self tapping silver screws in the same head diameter as the silver screws, so I decided to keep the stock silver screws...


Next, if you want to upgrade the looks of the Bike Sport Developments (BSD) Switch assy, you can replace their stainless steel screws with ProTi Titanium Screws :


Then install the 17RCS Corsa Corta with the BSD Switch ASSY, and in my case, add few spacers with much longer ProTi Titanium Screws and add Rizoma Rear View Bracket on Top...
Why the Rizoma Rear View Bracket??? Well, I am going to use it as the base for my upcoming custom bracket for the Ducati by Rizoma Brake Fluid Reservoir (combine with AELLA tie down for some Ducati as the horizontal bracket).
Unfortunately the AELLA tie down still stuck in Japan so, I need to wait maybe 2 weeks more before I can install the Ducati by Rizoma Brake Fluid Reservoir... Yes, sounds complicated but once I am done, you will see, its actually quite simple.



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[BMW Alpina]

But wait there is a bit more...
If you don't like the look of the bolt holding the folding lever, then you can always upgrade to ProTi Titanium Bolt:



Now, this is 17RCS Corsa Corta Master Cylinder install is FAR from finish...
I still need to upgrade the Pivot Bolt to Titanium from Kohken Japan (will arrive together with the AELLA tie down bracket around Mid July) combine with ProTi Titanium NUT.
Also it will be connected to a custom Goodridge Kevlar Braided Line, all Stainless and ProTi Titanium Banjo bolts, and maybe I will paint that Brembo logo on the knob adjuster RED myself
Got to start lifting weight again, not to be strong but to make sure I have steady non shaky hand when I paint that logo with a tiny brush

More update later today (or tomorrow if I am too lazy to continue today)...

 

[torrific]

The controls look so much better than Ducabike's or CNC's offering. Well done.

 

[HKMP7]

Man it’s coming along so nice. Love the gold touches.

 

[BMW Alpina]

The controls look so much better than Ducabike's or CNC's offering. Well done.

Man it’s coming along so nice. Love the gold touches.

Thank You so much for the compliments, Torrific and HKMP7


By the way, some midnight update:
First, I forgot to post that since the connector for the Ducati Brake Switch is proprietary for Bosch and no ones sell it, I decide to swap the brake switch. Picture below is the brake switch from the original Ducati Master Cylinder and compare to the one from the 17RCS Corsa Corta (blue dimple) on the right picture:


Stock Brembo Brake Switch installed on the 17RCS Corsa Corta, it FIT PERFECTLY



I also disassemble the entire REAR Subframe to measure all the bolts that can be replaced with ProTi Titanium bolts and order them.



Thanks to @bradp51 with his idea to replace with lighter Horn and Carbon Fiber bracket, so I ordered this PIAA horns and arrived today.
I was planning to order just 1 horn the 500Hz one, but strangely, the price for the 2 horns package is cheaper than the 1 horn. However, I don't plan to add relay and complication with extra wiring,
so I only going to use a singe 500Hz horn and keep the 400Hz horn for... well maybe my future display rack



More stuff arrived today:
MotoCorse Titanium NUT for rear sprocket to replace the Titanium Nut from AEM Kit. They are both Titanium NUT, but the MotoCorse one is more beautiful :
Left picture stock AEM Titanium Nut, Right picture MotoCorse Titanium NUT:


And MotoCorse Tool (Socket Wrench) for Rear Axle Nuts (I already have the CNC racing tools, but it just did not fit well to the AELLA Titanium Nut, so hopefully MotoCorse Socket will fit better, not to mention it looks gorgeous ):


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[BMW Alpina]

So, I also installed the Oberon Clutch Slave Cylinder with all ProTi Titanium bolts. However, I notice the Ducati factory Slave Cylinder have extra O-Ring, while the Oberon version did not. Hopefully this is not an issue.



BEFORE left picture and AFTER, RIGHT picture (I also install Stahlbus Banjo/Bleeder Combo and my hand painted (spray can) Red Sprocket Washer .
The ProTi Titanium Bolts with gold color will be the one that also hold the Carbon Fiber Sprocket Cover, that is why they are gold. The rest of the ProTi bolts that hold the Oberon Slave Cylinder were Titanium Silver Color:



Then I replaced the LARGE M16 Bolts that hold the handlebar (at the end of the handle bar), to do this I need to use Insert that convert the M16 to M10, I use Shell Gadus per factory recommendation on the insert:



Thread it in and using special tool and rubber hammer, I lock the 4 pins:


Then, I use Real TITANIUM Spacer (originally for some brake caliper) combine with M10 ProTi Titanium bolt:


And Final Result for Right handlebar:



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[BMW Alpina]

Left Handlebar picture below. Also, I haven't replace my upper Triple clamp with my Melotti Racing yet because I still need to take out my lower triple clamp so I can replace the Horn Bracket bolt with ProTi (and also the side front magnesium bracket bolt). I can't do this right now until I finish with the rear suspension and rear axle just so my ABBA stand can lift the front wheel.



But I manage to install the upper ProTi Titanium Bolt for the magnesium front subframe, along with with the bolts that hold the Ohlins damper, so it is a quite satisfying day :


I also decide to install the ProTi Titanium bolt for the left clutch master cylinder bracket just so I can reduce the hundreds of ProTi Titanium bolt still in the box... I will of course need to remove it again when I replace the Clutch MC with 16RCS Corsa Corta Clutch Master Cylinder. Left picture before, right picture after:



I then replace the LEFT bolt that hold the Ducati by Rizoma Front Axle Slider with ProTi Titanium bolt, I did not replace the right one since it seemed to be permanently Loctite from the factory for ease of install:
Left picture before, right picture after:


Then replace the CENTER bolt that hold my ALLEA frame slider with GOLD ProTi Titanium Bolt:
Left picture BEFORE and Right picture AFTER:


Then, more ProTi bolts arrived today so... I can replace the bolts that hold the STM Generator Cover with the ProTi Titanium Bolts that have the right length and also a bit smaller head diameter for the "just the right size" look.
I also decide to replace the O-Ring with a new O-Ring just in case, right picture show the STM Generator Cover now with the "correct" ProTi Titanium Bolts:



If I am not tired tomorrow, I will continue...

 

[BMW Alpina]

OH, I forgot,
also install the Stahlbus for the 17RCS Corsa Corta, the RED cover really brighten up the mood around that area


and of course more ProTi bolts arrived today... so maybe I need to work more then...

 

[bradp51]

BMWalpina
I like the detail of changing out the brake switch. The brembo logo will look good red too. And you are making me feel bad with your progress LOL. I purchased the Stahlbus valves for my 1199 on a spending blitz couple years ago and they are still sitting in the drawer. I did work 15 hrs straight on my old Ducati yesterday but that is another story.

 

[Zundapp]

This late afternoon, UPS sent me an email saying a shipment that supposed to arrived today will be delayed to tomorrow, so I decided to take my family grocery shopping right after 5pm.
I just return and saw an email from UPS now saying the shipment had arrived and left on my front door. I rush out, worry, hoping no one steal it from the porch, and good thing its there,
so I open it up and happy to see the DISASSEMBLED BrakeTech Rear Rotors . I asked BrakeTech to ship them DISASSEMBLED because I plan to anodized the Carrier (center part) in Gold Color:



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Another shipment also arrived from UK today, which is a TITANIUM spacer for some brake caliper that I don't know, however, it have the PERFECT size for my project to replace the boring factory handlebar bolt.
This spacer will enable me to use a M10 ProTi Titanium Bolt in Gold color (with thread insert to adapt from M16 to M10), so now I just have to wait for the ProTi bolts to arrive.
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I also replace the rear pinch bolt late last night to ProTi:
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Take out the front headlight so I can measure all the bolts and nuts behind the dashboard and measure the equivalent ProTi Titanium Bolt/Nuts for them:
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While doing the above, I notice the way the steering lock works, and I decide to add Rubber Vacuum Plug so it wont create scratch, left picture show just left side rubber plug, and right picture shows both with rubber vacuum plug:

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I also found out that to replace the bolts holding the bracket of the horn will require me to take out the lower triple clamp and since I already bought a ProTi bolt kit for the horn... and I don't want to waste it...
so now I will need to remove the lower triple clamp... hmmm maybe... I can do more than that... while I took it out

Love the rear disc.
please let us know if you encounter any issues
with the ABS ring

 

[TsaiCo]

Hi DucatiKev,

Yes, I already purchased several bottles of Motul RBF660 a few weeks ago
I originally want to use Castrol React SRF, however they ran out a few weeks ago...
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I currently have this tool which I used to bleed the brake on my car, this system is PUSHING the brake fluid via the brake reservoir, however,
I experience leak so I worry if it leak again, it will spray all the brake fluid to the bike, so I am not going to use it.

I used to have VACULA (Vacuum Brake Bleeder) in my Aprilia shop a long time ago, but that require powerful compressor. It sucks from the bleeder valve using vacuum so it is safer.
I used it a lot since Goodridge braided line was one of the best selling parts in my shop at that time and all the clients want us to install and bleed it (which means more money from install cost for me,
and a chance to put Goodridge sticker on my client's bike so free promotion while my clients also love the Goodridge sticker too)

Still, this time, I think I am just rely on Stahlbus bleeder valve on both the Master and the Caliper, meaning a lot of manual pumping, well thats ok, so my forearm can be big again

hi BMW alpine, why do you think it’s leaking....I have the same kit as well....so disappointed....

I even bought the front and rear reservoir adaptors to Cap them off as well....

 

[BMW Alpina]

BMWalpina
I like the detail of changing out the brake switch. The brembo logo will look good red too. And you are making me feel bad with your progress LOL. I purchased the Stahlbus valves for my 1199 on a spending blitz couple years ago and they are still sitting in the drawer. I did work 15 hrs straight on my old Ducati yesterday but that is another story.

Thanks BradP51

Love the rear disc.
please let us know if you encounter any issues
with the ABS ring

Thanks Zundapp
Before purchase, I contacted BrakeTech directly via their regular email on their website, and Jeff the owner responded directly by email. It's refreshing to see a such a personal customer service level from the owner for EVERY customer who contacted them. (not just some select few customers).
So if someday, you have some questions, I am sure Jeff will be glad to help you too. Jeff also explain with illustration on pdf document on where to "cut" the ABS ring so it won't interfere with the mounting bolt.
I will also post a step by step cutting work with Dremel once I am ready to install it, however, it might be another month since I still need to anodized the carrier, and I need to wait for other parts to arrive so I can anodize everything together so they will have the same shade from the same anodizing batch.

hi BMW alpine, why do you think it’s leaking....I have the same kit as well....so disappointed....
I even bought the front and rear reservoir adaptors to Cap them off as well....

Hi TsaiCo,
After using it, and feel it with my own hand, I realize that this design is not a bullet proof design because a plastic reservoir is just not design to be pressurized like that... so there is always risk of leaking.
You just have to be careful, with a bucket of water, and towel ready in case there is a leak to wipe out the brake fluid before it eat / stain any painted surface...
This time, I will just be doing a good old fashion pumping and hopefully the Stahlbus quick bleeder will make my life easier

 

[SickDuc]

Been watching all you’re doing, coming along awesome! I’ve been doing the same, but my timeline is much longer haha

I have the braketech rear disc on my 1299, shaving the abs ring is a pretty straight forward, simple job


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[BMW Alpina]

Been watching all you’re doing, coming along awesome! I’ve been doing the same, but my timeline is much longer haha
I have the braketech rear disc on my 1299, shaving the abs ring is a pretty straight forward, simple job
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Hi SickDuck,
I appreciate and want to say Thank You for your kind words.
I am also glad to hear from your experience that shaving the ABS ring is not that hard.



By the way, today is a slow day for me, so I only perform the following:
a. Took out the Clutch Line from the bike and taking pictures to documented the banjo orientation and also where the tie lock is for my reference to remind me when I install a new line (hopefully 700 Series Kevlar Braided Goodridge).



Install some more ProTi bolts for the airbox cover and also the lower triple clamp. Oh, I have some extra unused M5 ProTi Titanium Bolts in gold color and rather then having them unused in their boxes, I decide to use them to cover the 2 empty thread on the lower triple clamp for now... Hopefully I can use those 2 holes for the bracket that will hold my new front brake lines:



I also put the lower jack stand below the bike to support the engine, and hopefully I will received the MotoCorse Right Side Engine Bracket on Monday (or Tuesday) so I can install it asap :



Next week, my goal is to put the front wheel on the Baxter choke stand again to make the bike stable and then I can remove the rear swing arm with only the jack under the oil sump to support it. (Can't use ABBA stand to remove the swing arm).

Why, I need to remove the swing arm? Because, the only way to properly torque the rear Ohlins bracket is to remove the swing arm...

Seriously, I fall in love with this Ducati, otherwise, no way I am going to remove the swing arm just so I can torque 2 bolts properly...
You know, Things we are willing to do for our love one...

When everything said and done (hopefully by end of this year),
I believe, the only things I will not remove from this bike the engine block from the frame (knock on carbon fiber, hopefully I will not find some modification interesting enough that will require me to do that)

Also have some more ideas this past few days...
One of the idea require me to check with all Brembo's supplier. From the information I gather so far (from the supposedly value added distributor), none give me a convincing answer,
but I think it can be done

 

[BMW Alpina]

Late last night, before I went to bed, I decided to test fit the Ducati by Rizoma Brake Lever Protector to make sure it will fit the Rizoma Throttle Grip.
Turn out the Rizoma Throttle Grip is 3 mm shorter than the handle bar tube causing the "GAP" between the end of the Rizoma Throttle Grip and the Ducati by Rizoma Brake Level Protector:



I don't like this
So I start looking for washer that have 22mm ID (Internal Diameter) and 32mm OD (outside Diameter)... with 3mm thickness in stainless steel or aluminum...
Well, no washer is readily available off the shelf that meet all my requirements above unless I made a custom one...
Then...
My younger son came to me to remind me it is already very late, I need to go to sleep, so I can be fresh for work tomorrow...
but then he ask, why I am still awake. I explain to my younger son the "critical situation" ,
and he said, that he can solve my problem easily tomorrow morning and persuade me to sleep.

So, in the morning, my younger son wake up early to design a 3D printed Spacer using our family Dremel 3D printer:


And here are the result, no more gap,
My younger son will sanded the surface more and then paint them black.
It might not be going to be as smooth as a custom machine Stainless Steel or Aluminum spacer,
but I prefer to use my younger son creation to remind me that I am a Lucky father and I am really proud with my younger 12 years old son




Then, this afternoon, more parts arrived, I had been waiting for many months for this MotoCorse RIGHT Engine to Frame mounting bracket to arrive, not only because I want to install it, but also I want to use it first as color sample to anodize the Rear BrakeTech Rotor Carrier, and I must say, the MotoCorse anodizing quality is better than all the other anodized parts I bought so far




I am imagining on how it looks on the bike (don't forget, I also already bought a CONTRASTING Titanium Silver Color ProTi bolts for the 3 smaller bolts and the MotoCorse Large Frame Bolt Cover):



And 2 other Ilmberger carbon parts arrive too:
first one is the Left side air channel (I already received the right air channel long time ago) and the Carbon exhaust rear manifold cover. Now I need to buy the ProTi bolts needed for that Carbon Exhaust Rear Manifold Cover...

 

[Pete T]

I think your son's black spacer is the best colour and also a better material for a part that will rub against the moving throttle. It looks perfect.

 

[SickDuc]

I didn’t think I could be amazed any more....then you busted out the part about your son making the spacer on your own(family’s) 3D printer...haha this is good


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[BMW Alpina]

I think your son's black spacer is the best colour and also a better material for a part that will rub against the moving throttle. It looks perfect.

Thank You for pointing out that this part will rub against the moving throttle Pete T, somehow I forgot about it, I guess it's blessing in disguise that I did not find any metal washer with the right size, Thanks again

I didn’t think I could be amazed any more....then you busted out the part about your son making the spacer on your own(family’s) 3D printer...haha this is good
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Thank You for your very kind words, SickDuc. Yes, nothing (not even a Ducati) can beat the feeling of knowing that your family unconditionally loves you



By the way, this is totally unrelated, but if you were as old as me, you might want to see this YouTube video... you know, just a modern interpretation of another icon from the 90's like a 916:

 

[SickDuc]

It’s like it was made for me, has my Initials all over it haha


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[TsaiCo]

Hi TsaiCo,
After using it, and feel it with my own hand, I realize that this design is not a bullet proof design because a plastic reservoir is just not design to be pressurized like that... so there is always risk of leaking.
You just have to be careful, with a bucket of water, and towel ready in case there is a leak to wipe out the brake fluid before it eat / stain any painted surface...
This time, I will just be doing a good old fashion pumping and hopefully the Stahlbus quick bleeder will make my life easier

Hi BMW Alpina, thanks for the tip, I'm going to put aside the motive product and go buy the Stahlbus, should I installed one on the master as well? where and how many did you installed? i may want to do the same....thanks again!!