Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread
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Oh wow! This is insane! I just watched that movie with Russel Crowe called “unhinged”
I can imagine you doing that but on a Ducati
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oh Raul...
So glad I could make you smile, even though you must feel hahahahaha
and your latest posts really shows who you really are
are you sure you are ok? feel any anger? hahahaha
if you want to learn more about yourself, check this link, I mean, what kind of person admit to use his own wife's big "augmented" breast to try to impress other???... well this link really describe you well
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My last advice (and information) to you,
Before it is too late (and could get you in trouble like... jail) please remember help is just "a phone call away"
keep on posting Raul, the more you post the more... hahaha
you know what feel free to continue, you are just another person in this world that have "issue"... I understand, I won't punish you anymore, I really pity you
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Up until now I guess most of the mods you have done have been subjective (gold bolts everywhere for example) but each to their own, we all have our own tastes. The ONLY thing I could not bring myself to live with are the carbon wrapped inner fairing panels. The weave is such that it is clearly looks as if it's not real carbon but again, all I will say is if you like it, that is all that really matters. For me personally, I would remove it, as it cheapens the look of the bike. I am sure in the fullness of time a carbon part will be made available, be that through Carbonvani or Peter Lieb, though I wouldn't buy anything from Carbonvani, if my life depended on it, as from personal experience the fit, finish, accuracy and quality of his parts are plain dreadful. Good luck with the rest of the build.
I am not a fan of the gold bolt thing either! I went for straight silver Titanium and tried to keep things simple and clean. I like
What Howard did with the number 1 though and used that as inspiration and a few other things but maybe once he has finished everything might all work. I think when modifying it is about making tasteful mods and making improvements. I think splitting the brakes is a good idea on the front Calipers.
What Howard did with the number 1 though and used that as inspiration and a few other things but maybe once he has finished everything might all work. I think when modifying it is about making tasteful mods and making improvements. I think splitting the brakes is a good idea on the front Calipers.
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Well I'm going a different route (more akin to the SPS style of older Ducatis, with a magnesium coloured frame and swing arm and Cerakoting several parts (as opposed to anodising), which is expensive but the coating is near bomb-proof and is far less likely to get damaged/scratched/chipped even after prolonged use. I've got a fairly sizeable double garage/annexe construction nearing completion after 14 weeks work, hence why my own V4 project is on hold at the moment, as the bike has been in storage for over a year now awaiting it's new home. All being well I can pick up where I left off in a few more weeks.
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Hello Topolino,
Yes, everyone have their own taste, it could be because everyone have "literally" different eyes and brain.
What I mean by that is, the shade of color that my brain saw (after interpreting data from my eyes) "might" be different than the shade of color that your brain decode from the input from your eyes.
This explain why some would love certain color while other do not like certain colors.
However, not all the bolts (on my bike) is in Gold color but I am using contrast and gradation to guide my choice of the ProTi color.
If you notice, for the front caliper (at least at this moment with the stock Stylema caliper), because the color of the caliper (greyish) combine with the AELLA Titanium caliper spacer and also AELLA special washer in Titanium Silver, I choose ProTi Titanium in Titanium Silver Color.
The same thing with the Banjo bolts, because I will be using Cooper washer (which I will polish to mirror finish), I choose ProTi Titanium Banjo bolts in Titanium Silver Color.
However for the upcoming rear brake, where the Brembo CNC rear caliper is in the old style Brembo hard anodized color, I decided to use ProTi Titanium Caliper halves Bolts, Pin and Banjo Bolts in Gold color there.
(I even do some color matching experiment for the Brembo CNC rear caliper that I posted here a few pages back).
For the rest of the fairings, the ProTi Titanium in Gold color will give nice contrast with the Black, Red and White fairings, while silver bolts will look... "ordinary" and "nothing special".
However, for the Rizoma Rear Set, I went back to ProTi Titanium bolts in Titanium Silver because the way the finish of the Rizoma make it more suitable to combine with high brilliance of ProTi Titanium Bolts in Titanium Silver color providing a nice gradation.
Another thing I want to point out is the material of the bolts. From your thread, I notice all your bolts were made from STAINLESS STEEL material which of course usually available in either silver or black stainless steel only.
So, by choosing STAINLESS STEEL as your preferred material of choice on your build, you are more limited in color choices. However STAINLESS STEEL have advantage in pricing of course compare to the more expensive Titanium Bolts, but Stainless Steel are heavier than Titanium and could possibly be heavier than some of the stock bolts (which of course won't matter much unless you also after weight reduction which is not my priority and I believe not your priority too).
While TITANIUM Bolts material like the bolts I source from ProTi are available in Gold, Titanium Silver, Blue, and Black color. So this gave me more freedom to choose (although I stay with Gold and Silver Titanium only) depend on location and contrasting background.
Another thing I notice (from your post) was that in some of your rear suspension link, the stainless steel bolt that you originally plan to use did not have the proper strength that the original steel alloy bolt from Ducati has, so you revert back to the original Ducati steel alloy bolt. I solve this by using an even higher grade Steel alloy bolt than the original Ducati steel alloy bolt, than coat them with TiN (Titanium Nitride) coating so it will have even higher strength than original ducati steel bolt plus the looks of TiN (Gold) to give contrast. Stay tune once I am finish with my install and you can see what I mean.
Regarding the plastic panel that I wrapped with carbon, like what I said a few days ago, I am going to wait until I install all the fairings back and see how it look with the rest of the fairing and carbon panel. The beauty of wrap is, you can take it out anytime you want, unlike painting. However, just like the bolts color that I choose for gradient and contrast, it is the same principal here. I would like to see a contrast between this plastic panel with the black painted area above it. Painting it all in the same color will make it lost contrast (plain). You need contrast just like the way Ducati paint the number 1 in black, but put a "white" background on my bike. So if somehow the contrast that the 3M carbon fiber wrap provided did not match the rest of the panel, I will simply take it out and let the original plastic color be the "contrast" again.
Back to the 3M carbon fiber wrap, I used it on my car for front lower lips and they look like real carbon fiber. Some people use resin to coat them and the result is like a real carbon fiber, because their surface is not smooth and feel like a carbon fiber weave. In fact, if I post here that I replaced that plastic bit with carbon fiber, I am sure people will thought it is a real matte carbon fiber (just different weave and bit shinier than the original Ducati/Peter Lieb).
Also. if you recall, only a small rectangular section of this plastic part will be exposed after they were installed, so I want to see how it looks after I install everything.
Yap, I won't buy Carbonvanni parts either, for me the quality of a carbon fiber is determine not only from the finish (color), but more from the FIT. (Fitting it without "adjustment").
I will not replace any plastic part with carbon fiber just for the sake of replacing a plastic, especially if the quality of the carbon fiber part "FIT" is actually lower than the original plastic parts. A carbon Fiber part that FIT without any "adjustment needed" show the precision of the mold and craftsmanship of the maker which mean the engineering quality.
I do appreciate your pioneering in Samco hoses (that Samco use your hoses as template for their first Samco hoses offering), I also will take out all the upper air box to properly install the Samco hose (like you did) and also Thank You for recommending the Mikalor clamp.
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My priority lies more in ensuring the bolts retain their finish and don't corrode or oxidize, rather than weight chasing or colours per se. Weight saving has never really been an issue for me and at 70Kg, I'm not sure I need to find every last gram I could potentially shave off the bike. I went back to the OEM suspension link plate bolts, as the tensile strength needed (110Nm torque) was not available in anything other than a very expensive one off set of bolts (which I had made) but which failed (threads stretched) so I elected to have the three OEM bolts Cerakoted instead (which is about the toughest coating you can apply to metal parts on the market), since they are safety critical and I didn't want to run to the expense of another set. I'm sure your panels will look fine when fitted. I'm just not a lover of the weave of that particular wrap. I have seen others wrap the nose vents with similar products but the weave pattern was much closer to the carbon typically used by MS, Ilmberger, Fullsix and Peter Lieb, so arguably more convincing. Glad the Samco element of the build helped you out. Not sure why they continue to supply JCS hose clamps with the kit however, as they just don't fit properly, hence Mikalor was the best option to use and ensures a tight seal around the T-stat bosses. One word of caution. Be very careful when you come to re-assemble the moving trumpets/inlets tracts. Their setup is critical and you need to ensure you set them correctly or better still remove them together with the stepper motor attached so you do not disturb the relative linkage positions, else you will end up with problems later. I did not at first and it took me a while to figure out how to correct it. Learning by my mistakes.
For me Peter Lieb produces
Haha I would love to send all the proof but I would only get accused of being a narcissist.
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If corrosion resistant is your priority, then I strongly recommend and you definitely should consider Titanium bolts in your future build (I guess too late for your current bike since you already purchased those stainless steel bolts and even installed most of them).
I also noticed that the bolt you purchased from Accu in UK were only the A2 or 304 stainless steel grade which have LESS resistant to corrosion than the A4 or 316 Stainless Steel grade.
I see that Accu also offer most of them in A4/316?
Why don't you purchase your bolts with the A4/316 Stainless Steel material?
Now, Titanium has an even BETTER corrosion resistant to even the A4/316 Stainless Steel. Yes, even 316 Stainless Steel can corrode.
This is a link to good article discussing this corrosion resistant issue: https://tantaline.com/DOCs/Technica...ublications_corrosion_sensitive_equipment.pdf
By the way, I also learned it the hard way when I was designing my family water (ultra) purification plant 24 years ago. I initially choose a 316 Stainless Steel sensors (To SAVE COST) for our Resistivity meter but since it was exposed to both NaOH and H2S04 solution (diluted) during the regeneration process, the 316 Stainless Sensor still corrode. Problem solve when I replaced those 316 Stainless Steel sensors with TITANIUM sensors.
Below is the link to Resistivity meter that I was talking about, amazing the company still in business with the same name after more than 2 decades ago
750 Series II Resistivity Monitor/controller
when you scroll down the webpage you will find this paragraph:
RESISTIVITY SENSORS
All 750 Series II Resistivity models require a CS10 series sensor. This reliable sensor features two integral thermistors to ensure accurate and rapid automatic temperature compensation.
The sturdy polypropylene standard bushing is modular for easy, inexpensive replacement.
A PVDF or 316 stainless steel bushing can also be ordered.
The metal portion is available in either 316 stainless steel (standard) or titanium.
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I have used the 3M carbon fiber wrap in the past. The pattern is a twill vs the weave that's more typically used, so it won't match other carbon fiber parts. That made it a non-starter for me if there's real carbon present.
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You are correct, I checked at 3M website yesterday to see if their carbon fiber wrap available with different pattern, unfortunately, 3M still only offer 1 pattern, the same pattern as mine (with a new part# though).
3M carbon fiber wrap is proven quality, because I used their 3M WHITE color carbon fiber wrap to wrap my REAL BLACK carbon fiber (vented) engine hood that got quite hot due to the supercharger I installed on my engine for the past 5 years and I had done more than 100,000 miles since I wrap them and the 3M wrap are still good. At one time, I drove my car from Arizona back to California (around June or July 2018) and the outside temperature on the desert was 121 Fahrenheit, that was the hottest weather I have ever experience in my life.
I really need the vent only available on this carbon fiber hood to help pull the heat from the supercharger, and help avoid power sapping heat soak. The 3M WHITE color carbon fiber wrap really make it look nice, with nice to touch carbon fiber pattern and match the rest of the car white paint. Painting a new carbon fiber hood is not a good option because they are still "degassing" when new and the heat from the engine might exacerbate this causing the paint to bubble or peel off (I check with several reputable paint shop). I don't want to wait a few months before I can paint them because I really don't like black carbon fiber hood exposed on my white color car, just can't stand it.
If somehow, this 3M carbon fiber wrap really not match the rest of the fairing (after I install it), I will revert back to the original plastic surface because I actually like the color of that plastic, it give good contrast to the rest of the black painted surface.
however, I don't want to use unproven wrap from other brand unless it is 3M especially in this area of fairings where hot air flow out from the radiator fans. I worry the heat might melt/shrink the wrap or just peel off due to the heat and vertical mounting position plus it might left permanent adhesive residue on the plastic surface when/if I remove them.
Anyway, some more tools and parts should come this week or early next week, so hopefully my next few weekends will be busy and NOT be a quiet relaxing weekend
There is no black plastic as it has all been replaced with carbon so it makes no sense when you look at the bike. It’s a random bit of black plastic. Looks much better colour coded. You should be able to get it painted cheaply. By the way did I mention my wife has huge tits, I own a lambo and I have an apartment on the Thames
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raul1976,
just a few posts you ago, you don't even know how to adjust chain slack and have to ask for my guidance, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread
heck, you even have to ask me whether the radiator cap that you purchase will fit or not, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread
and now you want to claim you know about style?
This last few posts of yours, really shows your true character"s" (plural), narcissistic, psychopath, lack of empathy, inconsiderate, selfish, whiny and the worse of all, ungrateful.
The whole world can see this from your last few posts. It is not my word against yours anymore, but you proudly post your Narcissist (and other negative) sides yourself.
People say:
a. money cannot buy brain
b. money cannot buy class
b. money cannot buy style
Do you ever consider, that someday, these posts (and pictures) of yours might come back and bite you?
Who knows where your career in the future takes you?
I really feel bad for your wife, which you treated like an object to show off to impress other, don't get me wrong, your wife is impressive, but if you love her so much, why do you do this to her?
I don't know maybe she like it too, but as the head of the household and an example of your children, well... even a bad person usually want their children not to follow their wrong footstep.
Do you want your children to be like you? wait maybe you are...
I always try to help every nice person in this world that I met and need my help, because MANY nice person also helped my family and I survive.
Like everyone else, My family and I also had our ups and down.
But, I don't think people like you can easily change, at least not until some traumatic event happened. I don't wish a traumatic event happened to you and your family but it could.
I post on this forum for my enjoyment (first) and to help other who need information (second).
I even don't mind debating with other as long as that debate will help me grow my technical knowledge, regardless whether I win the debate or lose.
With you however, I don't see any enjoyment or benefit to continue our dialog, you don't know much and you are ungrateful.
I cannot stop you from embarrassing your self on my thread, but I can (and just) put you on IGNORE, so I don't have to feel pity for you.
Hopefully you can change to be a better person without you (and especially not your family) having to endure a traumatic event.
just a few posts you ago, you don't even know how to adjust chain slack and have to ask for my guidance, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread
heck, you even have to ask me whether the radiator cap that you purchase will fit or not, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread
and now you want to claim you know about style?
This last few posts of yours, really shows your true character"s" (plural), narcissistic, psychopath, lack of empathy, inconsiderate, selfish, whiny and the worse of all, ungrateful.
The whole world can see this from your last few posts. It is not my word against yours anymore, but you proudly post your Narcissist (and other negative) sides yourself.
People say:
a. money cannot buy brain
b. money cannot buy class
b. money cannot buy style
Do you ever consider, that someday, these posts (and pictures) of yours might come back and bite you?
Who knows where your career in the future takes you?
I really feel bad for your wife, which you treated like an object to show off to impress other, don't get me wrong, your wife is impressive, but if you love her so much, why do you do this to her?
I don't know maybe she like it too, but as the head of the household and an example of your children, well... even a bad person usually want their children not to follow their wrong footstep.
Do you want your children to be like you? wait maybe you are...
I always try to help every nice person in this world that I met and need my help, because MANY nice person also helped my family and I survive.
Like everyone else, My family and I also had our ups and down.
But, I don't think people like you can easily change, at least not until some traumatic event happened. I don't wish a traumatic event happened to you and your family but it could.
I post on this forum for my enjoyment (first) and to help other who need information (second).
I even don't mind debating with other as long as that debate will help me grow my technical knowledge, regardless whether I win the debate or lose.
With you however, I don't see any enjoyment or benefit to continue our dialog, you don't know much and you are ungrateful.
I cannot stop you from embarrassing your self on my thread, but I can (and just) put you on IGNORE, so I don't have to feel pity for you.
Hopefully you can change to be a better person without you (and especially not your family) having to endure a traumatic event.
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