Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread

[BP PanigaleV4S]

Up until now I guess most of the mods you have done have been subjective (gold bolts everywhere for example) but each to their own, we all have our own tastes. The ONLY thing I could not bring myself to live with are the carbon wrapped inner fairing panels. The weave is such that it is clearly looks as if it's not real carbon but again, all I will say is if you like it, that is all that really matters. For me personally, I would remove it, as it cheapens the look of the bike. I am sure in the fullness of time a carbon part will be made available, be that through Carbonvani or Peter Lieb, though I wouldn't buy anything from Carbonvani, if my life depended on it, as from personal experience the fit, finish, accuracy and quality of his parts are plain dreadful. Good luck with the rest of the build.

I have used the 3M carbon fiber wrap in the past. The pattern is a twill vs the weave that's more typically used, so it won't match other carbon fiber parts. That made it a non-starter for me if there's real carbon present.

 

[BMW Alpina]

I have used the 3M carbon fiber wrap in the past. The pattern is a twill vs the weave that's more typically used, so it won't match other carbon fiber parts. That made it a non-starter for me if there's real carbon present.

You are correct, I checked at 3M website yesterday to see if their carbon fiber wrap available with different pattern, unfortunately, 3M still only offer 1 pattern, the same pattern as mine (with a new part# though).

3M carbon fiber wrap is proven quality, because I used their 3M WHITE color carbon fiber wrap to wrap my REAL BLACK carbon fiber (vented) engine hood that got quite hot due to the supercharger I installed on my engine for the past 5 years and I had done more than 100,000 miles since I wrap them and the 3M wrap are still good. At one time, I drove my car from Arizona back to California (around June or July 2018) and the outside temperature on the desert was 121 Fahrenheit, that was the hottest weather I have ever experience in my life.
I really need the vent only available on this carbon fiber hood to help pull the heat from the supercharger, and help avoid power sapping heat soak. The 3M WHITE color carbon fiber wrap really make it look nice, with nice to touch carbon fiber pattern and match the rest of the car white paint. Painting a new carbon fiber hood is not a good option because they are still "degassing" when new and the heat from the engine might exacerbate this causing the paint to bubble or peel off (I check with several reputable paint shop). I don't want to wait a few months before I can paint them because I really don't like black carbon fiber hood exposed on my white color car, just can't stand it.

If somehow, this 3M carbon fiber wrap really not match the rest of the fairing (after I install it), I will revert back to the original plastic surface because I actually like the color of that plastic, it give good contrast to the rest of the black painted surface.
however, I don't want to use unproven wrap from other brand unless it is 3M especially in this area of fairings where hot air flow out from the radiator fans. I worry the heat might melt/shrink the wrap or just peel off due to the heat and vertical mounting position plus it might left permanent adhesive residue on the plastic surface when/if I remove them.

Anyway, some more tools and parts should come this week or early next week, so hopefully my next few weekends will be busy and NOT be a quiet relaxing weekend

 

[Raul1976]

There is no black plastic as it has all been replaced with carbon so it makes no sense when you look at the bike. It’s a random bit of black plastic. Looks much better colour coded. You should be able to get it painted cheaply. By the way did I mention my wife has huge ...., I own a lambo and I have an apartment on the Thames

 

[BMW Alpina]

raul1976,

just a few posts you ago, you don't even know how to adjust chain slack and have to ask for my guidance, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread

heck, you even have to ask me whether the radiator cap that you purchase will fit or not, link below:
Ducati Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario Build Thread

and now you want to claim you know about style?

This last few posts of yours, really shows your true character"s" (plural), narcissistic, psychopath, lack of empathy, inconsiderate, selfish, whiny and the worse of all, ungrateful.
The whole world can see this from your last few posts. It is not my word against yours anymore, but you proudly post your Narcissist (and other negative) sides yourself.

People say:
a. money cannot buy brain
b. money cannot buy class
b. money cannot buy style

Do you ever consider, that someday, these posts (and pictures) of yours might come back and bite you?
Who knows where your career in the future takes you?

I really feel bad for your wife, which you treated like an object to show off to impress other, don't get me wrong, your wife is impressive, but if you love her so much, why do you do this to her?
I don't know maybe she like it too, but as the head of the household and an example of your children, well... even a bad person usually want their children not to follow their wrong footstep.
Do you want your children to be like you? wait maybe you are...

I always try to help every nice person in this world that I met and need my help, because MANY nice person also helped my family and I survive.
Like everyone else, My family and I also had our ups and down.

But, I don't think people like you can easily change, at least not until some traumatic event happened. I don't wish a traumatic event happened to you and your family but it could.

I post on this forum for my enjoyment (first) and to help other who need information (second).
I even don't mind debating with other as long as that debate will help me grow my technical knowledge, regardless whether I win the debate or lose.

With you however, I don't see any enjoyment or benefit to continue our dialog, you don't know much and you are ungrateful.
I cannot stop you from embarrassing your self on my thread, but I can (and just) put you on IGNORE, so I don't have to feel pity for you.
Hopefully you can change to be a better person without you (and especially not your family) having to endure a traumatic event.

 

[jeosbor1]

you guys should get a room

 

[BMW Alpina]

you guys should get a room

This is the second time you post the same exact message. Last time when I was having a debate with endodoc.

Argumentation in internet forum is normal, and I am willing to participate as long as it help me grow my knowledge or when it is a matter of principal or honor.

Of your last 15 posts, 4 of your posts are "sarcastic" directed to me, however, somehow, you still like to read my thread or posts.
why is that? is this somekind of a love/hate relationship?

Whatever it is, as I said above, I am here for my enjoyment (FIRST). Because, I don't see any value or benefit (for me) from reading your posts so I put you on ignore too.

edit: and if you decided to response to this post of mine, before you do that, you need to remind your self to book a single (not double) room for yourself since I won't be there hahaha

 

[SickDuc]

There is no black plastic as it has all been replaced with carbon so it makes no sense when you look at the bike. It’s a random bit of black plastic. Looks much better colour coded. You should be able to get it painted cheaply. By the way did I mention my wife has huge ...., I own a lambo and I have an apartment on the Thames

We still need proof on the huge ........


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[BMW Alpina]

Good news, the EARL'S Professional Flaring Tool Kit Part# 001ERL finally arrived,

UPS just delivered them around 8:30PM and again the UPS delivery person is driving his own personal sedan as a reminder that this is a tough period for American !

Earls 001ERL Earls Professional Flaring Tool - 37°, 45°, and DIN Flares w/ Bench Mounting Flange
They cost $494.95, so pretty heavy investment, but hopefully they will last for my live time amateur application

Here is the picture:


The bad news is, I still need to wait for one more tool (The Tube Straightening Tools) to arrived from EARL'S so... I still cannot start my rigid cooper hardline replacement project...
well, hopefully the Samco hose arrived from Demon-Tweek UK by next week, at least I already have the UPS tracking number for it
Oh... and the Motocorse steering stem cover finally ship today and hopefully I can start anodizing those suspension brackets/links and many more next week...

hmmm... but what am I going to do (for my bike) this weekend then ???

 

[endodoc]

Hmmmm, rigid copper hardline. Since you already have the plumbing, I guess you could install a kitchen sink. You’ve done just about everything else. Other than that? I don’t know, drill out the tires to reduce rotational weight? Maybe Raul will come through with the ....s, who knows.

 

[SickDuc]

Hmmmm, rigid copper hardline. Since you already have the plumbing, I guess you could install a kitchen sink. You’ve done just about everything else. Other than that? I don’t know, drill out the tires to reduce rotational weight? Maybe Raul will come through with the ....s, who knows.

I’m calling bluff on the ....s


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[endodoc]

Yea, it’s not looking likely. I think Howard damaged the poor guy and now we all suffer. No ....s. Way to go Howard.

 

[DucatiKev]

Yeah yeah u guys drooling over the ....ies, what happens when she turns out to be a “they”

Will the hard brake line be insulated from heat?

 

[Raul1976]

Lol. I want to build a boat from a pair of silicone .... and titanium put it in my lounge and then let people admire my engineering skills. I want to use a 3D printer to make a cutting edge anchor system that will never be used and the seats from a metal I made back in 1982 when Valentino Rossi used to be my tea and coffee maker in the office. I have lots of friends, my wife is also a good cook and I have been to outer space 3 times. By the way I cannot share any info due to liability. Your boat could sink so I do not recommend you sail it. Look at it at home and sit on it. Shout out “aye aye captain” and “Scotty I need more power”. I am the best, I am the best.

am the egg man
They are the egg men
I am the walrus
Goo goo g'joob

 

[BMW Alpina]

Hmmmm, rigid copper hardline. Since you already have the plumbing, I guess you could install a kitchen sink. You’ve done just about everything else. Other than that? I don’t know, drill out the tires to reduce rotational weight? Maybe Raul will come through with the ....s, who knows.

I still have 6 things (high expenditure) that I really want to change on my bike... (this is outside the never ending ProTi upgrade)...
the first 4 things are for sure... one is about $1k more or less, the other one is a $1.5k gamble (guessing game) that I hope I will win, otherwise, I will be disappointed but that's ok, just need to modified it a bit and still 75% win...
then $700 for some fancy bracket and finally another $1.5k to be an amateur paint correction/ceramic coating guy...

the last 2 things... well, one things I have to buy any way but the model depend on the other things, this 2 last things will cost between $2.5k minimum to maybe $15k maximum... however, most likely I will just go with the $2.5k option...
I mean the $15k one is a "high maintenance" type... so not sure if I want to have a high initial cost then still have to live with a "high maintenance type", plus it will need some custom modifications and/or even replacement of some parts that I already bought... I have done complete measurement few weeks ago... and it's doable and it will look the part... but for $15k... hmmm, will see... no, I shouldn't...

actually, there is a 7th thing... if someday Ducati and Akrapovic issue an official under-seat exhaust ala 1299 FE or ala 916 with an official Ducati factory tune...(not interested in aftermarket tune) now that is a must...

Yeah yeah u guys drooling over the ....ies, what happens when she turns out to be a “they”

Will the hard brake line be insulated from heat?

Yes, DucatiKev, the hard brake line (on some area) will be insulated from the heat with official Goodridge heat insulator, it should arrive with the Samco next week (hopefully).
However some area of it will be exposed because I will mirror polished those cooper hard line

 

[Raul1976]

I want to melt condoms cook them in a pot and make a seat. It will be the lightest seat in the world. It will however never be used. I will admire it when I come down the stairs probably at night when I get a drink of lemonade. Wow I’m the best!

 

[DucatiKev]

sadly, we will not be seeing a custom Ti V4 under tail exhaust by BMW :/

 

[Raul1976]

I want to make a brake disc from biscuit tins and my old garage door. I used to work for NASA and I helped to make the wings. PS I am the best! Anyone that disagrees with me is mad and I will tell them they are! Now I am going to design a rocket to go to Mars! I love chickens! I love chickens! The end!

 

[Raul1976]

Have I told everyone about the time I came up with the IPHONE idea but Steve Jobs came into my lounge and stole it. That was back in 1932. I’m a big owl with pink eyes! You are all crazy!!!!! I used to own a Ducati Dealership! Here is a picture of me! I’m the best! I know you did not ask but I felt compelled to tell you all as I want to help you!! You neeeeeeed my help!!! Please be me friends!!!!!!

 

[BMW Alpina]

sadly, we will not be seeing a custom Ti V4 under tail exhaust by BMW :/

I was initially thinking of buying the SC Project WSBK Full exhaust system
WSBK Full exhaust system
then replace the 2 end muffler with the Akrapovic muffler from the 1299FE, you know so it look as an Akrapovic,...
but it just doesn't feel right... having a Frankenstein system like that... not proper, and what about the tuning... because I want my dashboard to show "Racing EVO" that I believe can only came from official Ducati/Akrapovic Up-Map...
so small things like that stop me from doing the above... plus, I really hate if after I spent money for this Frankenstein system, only to see Ducati/Akrapovic finally offer their official under-seat system....
I mean Akrapovic did have the prototype for the last year Barni's bike... they just have to produce it...
I even try to lobby the Akrapovic US market manager a few months ago

oh, and the carbon heat shield with the SC project logo for the rear manifold just look... cheap... picture below... I don't like it:

 

[DucatiKev]

We should petition Akra for a full under tail system.

but you do already have a nice exhaust on your bike. I do quite like the under belly exhaust, maybe it’s nostalgia but to me, that’s a feature that makes Duc look special to me