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You dont have to worry there, Ducati will still keep the Panigale with the 1299 engine.
I will find out more on what is happening in a couple of weeks.
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You dont have to worry there, Ducati will still keep the Panigale with the 1299 engine.
I will find out more on what is happening in a couple of weeks.
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V4 not Ducati tradition? Old news.
Not many of these around anymore.
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I don't think many even remember these.
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I've asked my friends and contacts at Ducati over the past couple years and received a unanimous, "nope." And there was no hint of deception, no knowing grin, just a straight, solid: NOPE. (Now, if they did suggest it was a possibility, I wouldn't say a damned thing.)
With all that said, I simply can't believe they can pull off a feat of making a twin that's mechanically much of an improvement over the 1299's engine. But then again, everyone used to say that the 1198's lump was about the limit of what a twin could achieve. HA!
I still wonder if they'd ever go FI. If for no other reason than emissions + sound.
With all that said, I simply can't believe they can pull off a feat of making a twin that's mechanically much of an improvement over the 1299's engine. But then again, everyone used to say that the 1198's lump was about the limit of what a twin could achieve. HA!
I still wonder if they'd ever go FI. If for no other reason than emissions + sound.
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No I am sure....they only produced 2 bikes
It did put out 100 hp out of the 1257 engine.If i remember right only 1 full bike is around, the rest are parts or engines.
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You mean direct injection?
I'm wondering when Audi technology finally shows up on bikes.
1399 TFSI desmo? Eff yeah. I say 250 horses
A TDI Multistrada with a 200 mile Range? Yes please!
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Don't forget one of the coolest technology developments that came from VW back in the early 90's that they have in their technology bag. The narrow angle "V" and offset cylinders which allowed a 6 (VR6) cylinder engine to fit in essentially a 4 cylinder space. That technology found its way in many different VAG vehicles over the years including 8 and 12 cylinder versions known as W8 and W12. It would make complete sense to utilize this design if they wanted to add two more cylinders to the Panigale without increasing the width by too much.
That being said my prediction is that it will be a "W4" and NOT a V4 or L4. [emoji2]
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thats some commute hahaha hit much traffic?
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i had a Golf VR6 when i was 23. man that thing was cool. loved that engine.
sold it for an RSV Mille though. that thing was cooler
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There still life left in the v2 for at lease one more model run:
DVT + Direct Injection + Double Clutch/seamless transmission.
Supercharger could work, but the complex nature of this on a twin (more so with a panigale type frameless bike) would only really put it in a exotic model.
Turbo wouldn't work to well in a twin.....
The current Superleggra engine is rated at 230. So apart from the lighter internal parts the engine design itself seems to have some power left to find.
DVT + Direct Injection + Double Clutch/seamless transmission.
Supercharger could work, but the complex nature of this on a twin (more so with a panigale type frameless bike) would only really put it in a exotic model.
Turbo wouldn't work to well in a twin.....
The current Superleggra engine is rated at 230. So apart from the lighter internal parts the engine design itself seems to have some power left to find.
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As I've said before, Ducati doesn't "need" a V4.
It is capable of putting almost 200hp to the wheel (after removing gov't restrictions), right off the showroom floor while having a very sensible service interval.
It has ran up front in WSTK since it came out, and won more races than any other bike in WSBK this year.
As it is now, they have to constantly restrict power via electronics because the rear can't keep traction or the front can't stay down.
More power would just mean more electronic intervention.
Keep in mind it makes all that power while having the mechanical grip advantage due to the power pulses of the Twin. That makes it easier on tires and in theory, better in the rain.
If they make a V4, that would be awesome. Love my RSV4. But to say they "need" one is silly.
It is capable of putting almost 200hp to the wheel (after removing gov't restrictions), right off the showroom floor while having a very sensible service interval.
It has ran up front in WSTK since it came out, and won more races than any other bike in WSBK this year.
As it is now, they have to constantly restrict power via electronics because the rear can't keep traction or the front can't stay down.
More power would just mean more electronic intervention.
Keep in mind it makes all that power while having the mechanical grip advantage due to the power pulses of the Twin. That makes it easier on tires and in theory, better in the rain.
If they make a V4, that would be awesome. Love my RSV4. But to say they "need" one is silly.
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I suspect one issue is what it takes to get those numbers out of a twin though. They are really pushing the envelope of that configuration. Kinda like when they managed to beat the 1000cc 4's in WSBK with the 999, but had to run a Moto GP budget to do it. To do what they have done for their street bike is nothing short of amazing IMHO. They really should be applauded for it.
That said, they are a boutique brand, so they can get along just fine selling higher priced bikes that cost a ton more to develop.
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I love the V4 on my Tuono. I read all the complaints from this forum since day one about how the 1199 power was sluggish down low, but never understood the reason behind it until...I rode the Tuono. If the Panigale or next superbike Ducati gets the V4 it'll be an even better bike. Usable power everywhere! (Even in a parking lot) We shall see I suppose.
Ditto
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rated 230 lol come on man you know better than to believe those numbers. if it was 230 it hit it one time for a millisecond on a dyno with extreame conditions etc etc. you dont really think the SL with the same engine puts out 230 real hp do you?
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