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Wrong. If your going to post something at least be accurate. Do you see PDM being used on the 2022 spec Motec or Marelli systems for motorcycles? You know, the systems being used universally by every major team? Nuff said
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Hmmm looks like a Motec kit for a Ducati. I’m guessing Alk doesn’t live in the US. I guess SBU should change that ad. It reads Motec kit for Ducati V4. Brand MoTec. Product code MoTec V4 SBK. Doesn’t say SBU assembled electronic package for the Ducati V4. It says MoTec.
 
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Actually it uses the stock Ducati PDM, the solid state one they tried wasn't up to the task. The system is put together by SBU and it's a well built system it looks like they collaborated with bike sport development in the UK

Stock Ducati pdm?

Iirc, you choose from one of three MoTec pdm options when you order the kit from SBU.
 
Ok enlighten me, what does a motorcycle electronics system that incorporates PDM vs an older system that does not do for you?
 
Actually it uses the stock Ducati PDM, the solid state one they tried wasn't up to the task. The system is put together by SBU and it's a well built system it looks like they collaborated with bike sport development in the UK

Actually a PDM in this context is solid state by definition. The stock Ducati PDM you’re referring to is a fuse box and relays.


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So Alkhater obviously I built a substantially inferior bike this last time out because I didn’t incorporate PDM into my electronic selection. So that I may up my game to your standards on the next build what is PDM going to do for me that will make the next bike at least decent?
 
So Alkhater obviously I built a substantially inferior bike this last time out because I didn’t incorporate PDM into my electronic selection. So that I may up my game to your standards on the next build what is PDM going to do for me that will make the next bike at least decent?

It will do for you as much as you know how and what to do with it.


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From the MoTec website. My question is, what possible relevance does this have for anyone running anything but a full competition platform with a lot of data inputs .I literally have 4 fuses and a couple of relays on the last bike I built and you literally made a comment that it was somehow substandard because it did not incorporate a PDM platform, so given the comment why do I need a PDM platform on a non competitive 2 cylinder motorcycle? Tell me what I can do with it to make my platform better. I would love to know how the benefits listed below help me and you for that matter. I assume from your posts that you are utilizing this platform so maybe you could share how you are using your PDM to build a better system.


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MoTeC Power Distribution Modules (PDM) are designed to replace conventional relays, fuses and circuit breakers, simplifying wiring and reducing weight while increasing reliability.
They not only provide electronically switched power to various systems in the vehicle, but can also be programmed to make smart decisions while the vehicle is out on track. For example, they can restart devices automatically after a short, switch to a reserve pump if a main pump fails, systematically shut down devices if battery voltage drops, even regulate the water in a driver’s cool suit.
In addition to that the PDMs provide full diagnostic information, including output currents and error status, enabling teams to monitor the entire vehicle via telemetry.
 
Stock Ducati pdm?

Iirc, you choose from one of three MoTec pdm options when you order the kit from SBU.
Yeah they probably haven't updated their website, i have the system from their V4 build and it uses stock PDM they advised me this is the only option, i prefer that as it's easier to Carry spares. I think it also uses the Motec IMU but we're swapping out for the stock V4R one as it's a lot better.
 
It comes down to resources. Capital, access, exposure to technology etc. I grew up around aerospace and was spoiled by the materials, fasteners, construction etc. Its all I know and all I use in anything I do. My damn dog cart I made has Ti fasteners (I .... you not). If I can’t get it, I wait. If I still can’t get it, I’ll make it but I’m not going to compromise my approach to building and construction that started with skateboards when I was 7.

I’m not much into pride whatsoever. There is a way of doing something correctly that really shouldn’t be part of consideration, that’s just how it’s done. What irks me is that as far as quality, ingenuity and methodology are concerned, there are virtually unlimited outlets to learn. To not do the very best at whatever it is that you do is self destructive.

And yes I am fortunate to not have to work for a living (relatively speaking)but that was engineered as well a long time ago simply by watching others who we’re doing it and learning from them. Again glaring examples of how to “do it right” with 90% of the population doing it wrong. Dumbfounding.

If you’re going to praise yourself for doing things in the best way possible then do your homework.

I commend your approach and work ethic, it demands respect and should be contagious. If most people were like that the world would be a better place.

But if you’re gonna talk the talk then walk the walk.


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From the MoTec website. My question is, what possible relevance does this have for anyone running anything but a full competition platform with a lot of data inputs .I literally have 4 fuses and a couple of relays on the last bike I built and you literally made a comment that it was somehow substandard because it did not incorporate a PDM platform, so given the comment why do I need a PDM platform on a non competitive 2 cylinder motorcycle? Tell me what I can do with it to make my platform better. I would love to know how the benefits listed below help me and you for that matter. I assume from your posts that you are utilizing this platform so maybe you could share how you are using your PDM to build a better system.


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MoTeC Power Distribution Modules (PDM) are designed to replace conventional relays, fuses and circuit breakers, simplifying wiring and reducing weight while increasing reliability.
They not only provide electronically switched power to various systems in the vehicle, but can also be programmed to make smart decisions while the vehicle is out on track. For example, they can restart devices automatically after a short, switch to a reserve pump if a main pump fails, systematically shut down devices if battery voltage drops, even regulate the water in a driver’s cool suit.
In addition to that the PDMs provide full diagnostic information, including output currents and error status, enabling teams to monitor the entire vehicle via telemetry.

Lol

That’s a very clear description

What else do you want to know?


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Lol

That’s a very clear description

What else do you want to know?


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What I need to know is how is that in any way relevant to me? I don't have any of those things. Its a 2 cylinder street bike. I have a head light, tail light, turn signals. No ABS, No Elock, hell i dont even have a key. Im not logging, I don't have telemetry, I have no peripheral devices (radar, phone, refrigerator, hot tub, fog lights, multi media) so help me out, what grave error did I make not incorporating a power distribution module into my platform that would have elevated my build to a higher status. Dude I like tech, so my bad, I aparently missed the boat here. Tell me what to get and i will get it hooked up
 
What I need to know is how is that in any way relevant to me? I don't have any of those things. Its a 2 cylinder street bike. I have a head light, tail light, turn signals. No ABS, No Elock, hell i dont even have a key. Im not logging, I don't have telemetry, I have no peripheral devices (radar, phone, refrigerator, hot tub, fog lights, multi media) so help me out, what grave error did I make not incorporating a power distribution module into my platform that would have elevated my build to a higher status. Dude I like tech, so my bad, I aparently missed the boat here. Tell me what to get and i will get it hooked up

Is it a Vespa?

I want one of those.


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Is it a Vespa?

I want one of those.


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Hmmm, not making a very powerful case for your comments, so I come to you for advice on how to incorporate what was obviously a huge oversight in my choice of electronics but now you seem lost for words. Open checkbook my friend, point me in the right direction, I will buy whatever is necessary, help me fix this blunder of a bike build. Please provide me with a general list of what a PDM will do for me and i will order it immediately.
 
Hmmm, not making a very powerful case for your comments, so I come to you for advice on how to incorporate what was obviously a huge oversight in my choice of electronics but now you seem lost for words. Open checkbook my friend, point me in the right direction, I will buy whatever is necessary, help me fix this blunder of a bike build. Please provide me with a general list of what a PDM will do for me and i will order it immediately.

I’m not lost for words but you’ve clearly lost your mind.

You speak about making the absolute best and not settling for anything less, bringing up ethics and waving your dick about. You comment on [mention]Steven31371 [/mention] build saying how his electronics is a nightmare waiting to happen and you want me to explain how you’d benefit from a PDM?

You know what? Your moped doesn’t need a PDM… forget about it.


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To get back on track... something needs to be addressed.

As it stands, Woolich seems to be the superior flash tuning solution BUT it is lacking some functions that other solutions provide like EBC (engine braking control) and quickshifter ignition cut times. Woolich... apparently provide additional functionality of their software in the form of something they call " race tools" that has the ability to control some of these parameters. It's not yet available for the Ducati V4 but I read somewhere on their website that says if enough people show interest in "race tools" for a particular platform then they will develop it.

Race tools includes:

-Quickshifter ignition kill times per gear with 3D map configuration for every rpm and throttle position
-Autoblipper tuning
-Pit lane speed limiter
-Launch control
 

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