Sure have. I have built from the ground up every bike I have ever owned. I build my own motors, machine my own parts, design and build my own electronics. Let’s see what you have going on Chief.
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What a small world. I responded to you on insta about your bike and build. Maybe one day you can help me and give me some knowledge on how to machine for parts.
Really not trying to be a dick (that comes naturally for me) I’m trying to talks some sense into some people. Identify what it is that you want, have a plan and execute it. I’m not a very good rider. I can find my way around an apex and probably hold my own in some instances but I my interest is building unique things an creating solutions. Buying a showroom bike, and tracking it “seriously” is not for the timid. If you are “seriously” pushing the curve, trying to get the most out of yourself, you’re going to crash and aside from a few guys on this board, not many can afford to crash a 35k they are still paying for.
My first “track bike” was a fully kitted 1000RR. I crashed it, a couple of times. Way over my head. If I did another “Track only” bike today it probably wouldn’t be a Ducati. It would have the best suspension, brakes and controls possible. It would have engine management only, a built motor on the edge of destruction, no rider aids and the rest of the bike would be junk.
All these fancy rider aids and electronic wizardry, what ever happened to riding the bike. I love mechanical porn but this extreme level of “rider assistance” for me just isn’t at all interesting. I always thought it best to learn the craft then layer in “assistance” as my skill sets warranted. Seems like every other post is some poser talking about his EVO package. ....... goofy.
My first “track bike” was a fully kitted 1000RR. I crashed it, a couple of times. Way over my head. If I did another “Track only” bike today it probably wouldn’t be a Ducati. It would have the best suspension, brakes and controls possible. It would have engine management only, a built motor on the edge of destruction, no rider aids and the rest of the bike would be junk.
All these fancy rider aids and electronic wizardry, what ever happened to riding the bike. I love mechanical porn but this extreme level of “rider assistance” for me just isn’t at all interesting. I always thought it best to learn the craft then layer in “assistance” as my skill sets warranted. Seems like every other post is some poser talking about his EVO package. ....... goofy.
I’m not the guy for that. I screw up more stuff than I would care to admit. I am very much still learning how to make things that are worth using. Best way to learn anything is by doing. I have a lifetime of wrecked and discarded materials and parts to keep me humble regarding my abilities.
My strongest asset is packaging. I seem to have a pretty decent ability to put the right things together and present it in a format that is fairly well received. A lot of that is just starting every day out with a blank check both financially and experimentally. A well funded endeavor doesn’t guarantee success but it most definitely removes obstacles. I would rather own the best T Shirt than an average suit of the pinnacle of development in a bicycle than a decent motorcycle. I don’t like things everyone else has and I despise half assed efforts.
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Now I need a Latte!! Well said.
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This is a weird conversation, but if a custom build is 100% and the Ducati product off the floor is 93.6%, Ill take the stock item, maybe bolt on a shock or some rearsets and just go riding. I don't have time to build, it's not a part of the hobby I am set up for but for sure it can be an art form that gives immense enjoyment and isn't that why we go motorcycling?
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Good points!
In my case I don’t disagree with you or [mention]endodoc [/mention] I’d love to be able to work on my own bike, fabricate equipment and do everything on my own but I work 10 hours a day 6 days a week so I don’t have time for that.
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It comes down to resources. Capital, access, exposure to technology etc. I grew up around aerospace and was spoiled by the materials, fasteners, construction etc. Its all I know and all I use in anything I do. My damn dog cart I made has Ti fasteners (I .... you not). If I can’t get it, I wait. If I still can’t get it, I’ll make it but I’m not going to compromise my approach to building and construction that started with skateboards when I was 7.
I’m not much into pride whatsoever. There is a way of doing something correctly that really shouldn’t be part of consideration, that’s just how it’s done. What irks me is that as far as quality, ingenuity and methodology are concerned, there are virtually unlimited outlets to learn. To not do the very best at whatever it is that you do is self destructive.
And yes I am fortunate to not have to work for a living (relatively speaking)but that was engineered as well a long time ago simply by watching others who we’re doing it and learning from them. Again glaring examples of how to “do it right” with 90% of the population doing it wrong. Dumbfounding.
I’m not much into pride whatsoever. There is a way of doing something correctly that really shouldn’t be part of consideration, that’s just how it’s done. What irks me is that as far as quality, ingenuity and methodology are concerned, there are virtually unlimited outlets to learn. To not do the very best at whatever it is that you do is self destructive.
And yes I am fortunate to not have to work for a living (relatively speaking)but that was engineered as well a long time ago simply by watching others who we’re doing it and learning from them. Again glaring examples of how to “do it right” with 90% of the population doing it wrong. Dumbfounding.
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Since you’re on my boat I feel you 100% but no matter how many times or how well you think you can stroke your own back you can’t provide for Ducati enthusiasts on a Ducati forum with your diy skills and recourses even with your 20 inch dick.
Now if you can sell me a prepped V4 track bike for 30k then I’m down to talk, otherwise don’t give people .... for pursuing their dreams.
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Your ....... delusional dude. Less than 2% of the global population is “pursuing their dreams” they are pursuing what their situation allows. Big difference and where did I ever say I had any desire to “provide for Ducati enthusiasts” I’m not here to provide anything. I don’t sell bike parts or service I’m just hear hanging out causing trouble. I have virtually nothing in common with “Ducati enthusiasts” other than a motorcycle brand. You see any “Ducati fan boy” logos on my bikes?
Life’s pretty simple. You get what you can afford and if you don’t have the resources, you get what is offered not what you want. It’s human nature to convince yourself that what’s being given is good because the alternative which is actually elevating your game is just too difficult for most.
Being able to start each day with a blank sheet of paper is empowering. There isn’t one guy on this board who wouldn’t have wanted the V4SL or a Factory delivered RS-22 if that were an option for them so quit with the BS psychology. Everyone wants the best, few have the work ethic required to achieve that desire so you condition yourself to accept less. ...... game plan.
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Once upon a time in the west it was not uncommon to either have good workshop skills or know someone who did. The industry and trades in your area contributed to this, and its intergenerational. Fast forward to late stage capitalism, culture wars, the internet age (which is overwhelmingly positive IMHO) the corporate packaging of every damn thing you can think and we are living an instant gratification culture that makes people think they don't have put in the time.
I also grew up around with friends who were in aviation engineering and avionic fields, and I agree that when every single aspect of your work is logged and maintenance is critical, it creates a habit in life of doing it properly.
I also grew up around with friends who were in aviation engineering and avionic fields, and I agree that when every single aspect of your work is logged and maintenance is critical, it creates a habit in life of doing it properly.
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If the aim of the game is happiness, satisfaction, enjoyment then "best" is an arbitrary standard. The rich Asian kids of Instagram showing their bloated bling lifestyles should be the happiest people on the planet since they can afford whatever they want. Ill bet you a buck they are mostly empty caricatures of success. Also it proves you don't need a work ethic to be outwardly successful you need luck.
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This is true.
So is this. Beyond a measure of generalized security, increasing wealth and material possessions do not correlate to increasing satisfaction or happiness.
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I do not want a V4 SL. Latte or bust!!!
My drive it home point what this. Be honest with yourself and understand the severity of the psychological impact on the big picture. How often does this happen. “Man I really want that” pause, “how much is it?” You have already stated in your head that you really want that and you are immediately confronted with a situation that could ultimately cause you to settle for something else.
You already know what you want and now your going to go and .... on your first choice and do what society has trained you to do, settle, compromise and they condition you for this from the time you are able to comprehend.
I don’t ever ask how much something costs. If I’m building something (bike, car, plane, home whatever) I have a build plan based on my desired outcome and I order what I need. My wife always says “ don’t ask him, he has no idea what things cost”. Now I’m not crazy. I don’t go window shopping for a Koenigsegg. It’s not in the cards at the moment but I also didn’t got down to the Lambo shop and lease like every other schmuck in SoCal. If I can’t have a Koenigsegg, I don’t bother looking at sports cars. Pretty simple. I will go without just about any day rather than start down that “good enough” road. That’s a philosophy that ensures I step up my game.
Same in business. I say yes to everything. I’m so over committed right now that everyone is panicking. I’m laughing my ass off because I know I will deliver. I always do. I’m not conditioned like they are. Promising the impossible breaks down barriers, settling builds walls of slavery.
You already know what you want and now your going to go and .... on your first choice and do what society has trained you to do, settle, compromise and they condition you for this from the time you are able to comprehend.
I don’t ever ask how much something costs. If I’m building something (bike, car, plane, home whatever) I have a build plan based on my desired outcome and I order what I need. My wife always says “ don’t ask him, he has no idea what things cost”. Now I’m not crazy. I don’t go window shopping for a Koenigsegg. It’s not in the cards at the moment but I also didn’t got down to the Lambo shop and lease like every other schmuck in SoCal. If I can’t have a Koenigsegg, I don’t bother looking at sports cars. Pretty simple. I will go without just about any day rather than start down that “good enough” road. That’s a philosophy that ensures I step up my game.
Same in business. I say yes to everything. I’m so over committed right now that everyone is panicking. I’m laughing my ass off because I know I will deliver. I always do. I’m not conditioned like they are. Promising the impossible breaks down barriers, settling builds walls of slavery.
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V4SL is the ultimate prick bike and says Starbucks ... all over it.
I don’t mind an RS22 though but [mention]endodoc [/mention] do you have one?
What I’m saying is that even with your so called budget and recourses you’re limited. You don’t have the skills, knowledge and budget to build your dream bike. Do you have a pdm on any of your bikes?
Also, don’t speak about my ethics and standards… you have no clue about them. I’d build twice the bike you’re building with half the recourses.
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I don’t mind an RS22 though but [mention]endodoc [/mention] do you have one?
What I’m saying is that even with your so called budget and recourses you’re limited. You don’t have the skills, knowledge and budget to build your dream bike. Do you have a pdm on any of your bikes?
Also, don’t speak about my ethics and standards… you have no clue about them. I’d build twice the bike you’re building with half the recourses.
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